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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862254Post spert »

Paton out (inj)
Carlise in


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862278Post samoht »

In: Savage, Carlisle, Kent
Out: Sinclair (rest - only had 7 possessions last week), Paton if still not right, and Lonie (who did okay, but Kent is another speedster we could do with - and his long, low-raking kicks to the goalsquare might be handy?).


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862287Post Gershwin »

Devilhead wrote: Thu 20 Aug 2020 9:07pm Will Matty Parker play?
Got a feeling he will seeing he designed the jumper.


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Re: Changes v Lions

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Gershwin wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 7:04pm
Devilhead wrote: Thu 20 Aug 2020 9:07pm Will Matty Parker play?
Got a feeling he will seeing he designed the jumper.
Didn't think of that.
But yep.
Could be.

Carlisle, Parker in
Paton, Geary out


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Re: Changes v Lions

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A lot of love for Lonie I just don't rate him . Does a lot of running but doesn't seem to get much of the ball , too small to lay a decent tackle & not quick enough to break lines & his goal kicking of late has been ordinary. I would prefer Parker adds a bit of X factor is quick can take a grab & his tackling pressure is better IMO


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862307Post ace »

I think most likely is
Lonie OUT
Parker IN

Kent and Carlisle will be wanting IN but only Paton likely to miss.


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862332Post fugazi »

Great to see that there is real competition for spots

Good arguments for the inclusion of 4 or 5 players...apparently Abbot was BOG in the scratch match too.

Can't remember this for quite a few years....usually making arguments for players being dropped.


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862333Post fugazi »

All under pressure for various reasons
Long
Geary
Paton (inj)
Lonie
Sinclair
Bytel

All pushing for selection
Carlisle
Phillips
Kent
Parker
Roberton
Savage

Good problem to have when they also have

Gresham and Hannaberry auto inclusions if available


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Re: Changes v Lions

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bangaulegend wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 8:13pm A lot of love for Lonie I just don't rate him . Does a lot of running but doesn't seem to get much of the ball , too small to lay a decent tackle & not quick enough to break lines & his goal kicking of late has been ordinary. I would prefer Parker adds a bit of X factor is quick can take a grab & his tackling pressure is better IMO
The quintessential St Kilda conundrum, two players, each with deficiencies that if we could mix & match we'd have our perfect player.

Parker: speed, height, marking, tackling, physical mongrel

Lonie: goal sense, crafty, stager, awareness, cheeky bastard

Combine those traits and we have a premiership player.


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Re: Changes v Lions

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Ghost Like wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 10:37pm
bangaulegend wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 8:13pm A lot of love for Lonie I just don't rate him . Does a lot of running but doesn't seem to get much of the ball , too small to lay a decent tackle & not quick enough to break lines & his goal kicking of late has been ordinary. I would prefer Parker adds a bit of X factor is quick can take a grab & his tackling pressure is better IMO
The quintessential St Kilda conundrum, two players, each with deficiencies that if we could mix & match we'd have our perfect player.

Parker: speed, height, marking, tackling, physical mongrel

Lonie: goal sense, crafty, stager, awareness, cheeky bastard

Combine those traits and we have a premiership player.
Oh the possibilities!!

I'm sure the sports science boffs will be able to Frankenstein players DNA eventually. Imagine seeing Lenny Harvey kicking it straight down the throat of Tony Reiwoldt. :lol:


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Re: Changes v Lions

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Given the eternal subject of team changes, as the ultimate exercise which players on our List would you envisage standing on the Podium accepting Premiership Medallions?

Because that is the ultimate exercise


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Re: Changes v Lions

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Ghost Like wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 10:37pm
bangaulegend wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 8:13pm A lot of love for Lonie I just don't rate him . Does a lot of running but doesn't seem to get much of the ball , too small to lay a decent tackle & not quick enough to break lines & his goal kicking of late has been ordinary. I would prefer Parker adds a bit of X factor is quick can take a grab & his tackling pressure is better IMO
The quintessential St Kilda conundrum, two players, each with deficiencies that if we could mix & match we'd have our perfect player.

Parker: speed, height, marking, tackling, physical mongrel

Lonie: goal sense, crafty, stager, awareness, cheeky bastard

Combine those traits and we have a premiership player.
Would prefer to graft some Parker on to Hill/
But alas Christiaan Barnard is no more! :evil: :twisted:


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862357Post goods »

fugazi wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 10:22pm All under pressure for various reasons
Long
Geary
Paton (inj)
Lonie
Sinclair
Bytel

All pushing for selection
Carlisle
Phillips
Kent
Parker
Roberton
Savage

Good problem to have when they also have

Gresham and Hannaberry auto inclusions if available
How is Bytel under pressure? Because he's had 2 games? He will not be dropped! No chance!!


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Re: Changes v Lions

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bangaulegend wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 8:13pm A lot of love for Lonie I just don't rate him . Does a lot of running but doesn't seem to get much of the ball , too small to lay a decent tackle & not quick enough to break lines & his goal kicking of late has been ordinary. I would prefer Parker adds a bit of X factor is quick can take a grab & his tackling pressure is better IMO
For me the jury is still out on Parker, but I totally agree with your Lonie opinion. You have summed him up admirably. No doubt he is a terrific bloke,clearly he is popular with fellow players and some supporters.

For mine, he seems to not be quite up to AFL standard. I really do hope that he proves me wrong, but he has already had a lot of chances. Certainly he shows flashes at times which seems to serve as a teaser and so he gets another chance, and so the cycle continues.


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862359Post bullmarket »

Gershwin wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 7:04pm
Devilhead wrote: Thu 20 Aug 2020 9:07pm Will Matty Parker play?
Got a feeling he will seeing he designed the jumper.

mmm, I wonder what whether Jenny Kee would be a better forward or back :D :wink:

That said, it would not totally surprise me if you are on the money - however I did note in the Parker article on Saints web site, that it broached the subjected of Matty still being happy , just to see his teammates wearing the jumper even if he was not playing.
As i read that I wondered whether I should be looking for the message between the the lines

It will be interesting to see the final line up.

I would not be against him getting a run because at some point he deserves another chance to prove himself.

However given the importance of this match, I would hope that the selectors would pick the side on a "best available" basis rather than sentiment or any PC criteria


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Re: Changes v Lions

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Ghost Like wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 10:37pm
bangaulegend wrote: Fri 21 Aug 2020 8:13pm A lot of love for Lonie I just don't rate him . Does a lot of running but doesn't seem to get much of the ball , too small to lay a decent tackle & not quick enough to break lines & his goal kicking of late has been ordinary. I would prefer Parker adds a bit of X factor is quick can take a grab & his tackling pressure is better IMO
The quintessential St Kilda conundrum, two players, each with deficiencies that if we could mix & match we'd have our perfect player.

Parker: speed, height, marking, tackling, physical mongrel

Lonie: goal sense, crafty, stager, awareness, cheeky bastard

Combine those traits and we have a premiership player.
take away speed and height and you have toby greene.


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862366Post saintspremiers »

So it looks like they are only releasing the team the night before each match?

What a great idea and hope is a permanent concept.

Always thought it was stupid on Thursday night releasing a squad of 26 and then a final 22 on Friday, which was still 2 days out from match day if it was a Sunday game . Made no logical sense at all.


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Re: Changes v Lions

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saintspremiers wrote: Sat 22 Aug 2020 9:04am So it looks like they are only releasing the team the night before each match?

What a great idea and hope is a permanent concept.

Always thought it was stupid on Thursday night releasing a squad of 26 and then a final 22 on Friday, which was still 2 days out from match day if it was a Sunday game . Made no logical sense at all.
Think it was just a covid measure due to the uncertainty, short time gaps between matches, also teams not knowing who they are playing, where they are playing, and actually, what they are playing.

Perhaps in line with the covid spirit, and another measure to maintain/increase public interest, the final 22 should not be known until the teams run out on the ground. Imagine the intrigue, the paparazzi around the buses, the excitement that could be generated!


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862375Post saynta »

Didn't the AFL sell the footy record. If they did they no longer give a stuff when the clubs finalise their team.


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Re: Changes v Lions

Post: # 1862378Post SaintPav »

saynta wrote: Sat 22 Aug 2020 10:31am Didn't the AFL sell the footy record. If they did they no longer give a stuff when the clubs finalise their team.
Didn't it all have to be announced first by Timmy at 6:21:05 PM on 7 News on a Thursday evening?

Took the fun out of footy or what.


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