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Post: # 1853734Post CURLY »

We all saw it just a blatant display of cheating against a team that lead from start to finish. Collingwood got 10 more frees Thursday night. The defence first to the ball you get the frees. We had 10 less frees that’s 10 less.

No one can defend that rubbish we saw tonight.


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Post: # 1853750Post saynta »

CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:06pm We all saw it just a blatant display of cheating against a team that lead from start to finish. Collingwood got 10 more frees Thursday night. The defence first to the ball you get the frees. We had 10 less frees that’s 10 less.

No one can defend that rubbish we saw tonight.
Yes, but you watch. The usual suspects will come on here and try to defend the indefensible.


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Post: # 1853758Post The_Dud »

The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?


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Post: # 1853760Post Enrico_Misso »

Can anyone explain the holding the ball rule?
The interpretation seems to change from contest to contest!


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Post: # 1853766Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.


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Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm Can anyone explain the holding the ball rule?
The interpretation seems to change from contest to contest!
The rule is look at the club then decide if it’s a free or not.


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Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm Can anyone explain the holding the ball rule?
The interpretation seems to change from contest to contest!
Not even the commentators can!

I, however, know the secret!

There are 3 umpires - One was paying everything - one was paying nothing - and the other a little from column A and a little from column B. (Like 3 siblings)

Quite simply - these 3 umpires are not the best in the league - Us vs the bottom of the ladder team did not warrant that - so we got 3 that were not on the same page!


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The last Tex free in the pocket. You. Would. Have. To. Be. Kidding. Tex knew the fix was on and flopped like a sinking soufflee. Disgraceful.


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Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm Can anyone explain the holding the ball rule?
The interpretation seems to change from contest to contest!
No, not any more. The grey area has got greyer when it shouldn't be.


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SaintDippa wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:19pm The last Tex free in the pocket. You. Would. Have. To. Be. Kidding. Tex knew the fix was on and flopped like a sinking soufflee. Disgraceful.
The first one was worse.


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1853780Post StPeter »

A shocking display tonight but I thought a couple of vital decisions our way in the last quarter which were line ball clinched the game for us.

But they had a huge influence on Adelaide's score before then.


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The holding the ball rule is all over the shop all because Clarko had a sook because his team is crap.


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Post: # 1853782Post The_Dud »

CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:18pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.
But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?

Pretty simple question champ, going to try answer it?


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Post: # 1853784Post Ghost Like »

Happy to talk umpiring and how deplorable it was. In fact it was disgraceful and embarrassing for the AFL. However I don't believe they cheat.

It's a bit like saying Spencer White tanked, no he didn't, he was just shizenhauzen!


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I wish they’d just put the whistle away...
45 odd free kicks in 60min of football = insane


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Post: # 1853803Post bigcarl »

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Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm Can anyone explain the holding the ball rule?
The interpretation seems to change from contest to contest!
I hate it. It penalises the guy trying to make the play.

Clarko sooked about it and the AFL jerked its knee as per usual. The league wants to open the game up, but this is not the way to go about it.

The reason the game is often so crowded and defensive is a direct result of the AFL pandering to the coaches and allowing them four on the bench and 90 interchanges. It’s time for the league to wrest back control of the game from the coaches.


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The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:24pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:18pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.
But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?

Pretty simple question champ, going to try answer it?

We got one dubious free in front the second on to Kent.

Gresham in the back easy call
Kent tackled Kelly when he slid on the ground
Hartigan handballs to the behinds missed 100% free


Tex got two both ridiculous. The free against Wilkie ridiculous the free against Gears even worse.

The free against Howard was there but didn’t pay one to us

Butler pinned 3 times for deliberate none even remotely close.


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Post: # 1853813Post Moods »

CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:37pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:24pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:18pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.
But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?

Pretty simple question champ, going to try answer it?

We got one dubious free in front the second on to Kent.

Gresham in the back easy call
Kent tackled Kelly when he slid on the ground
Hartigan handballs to the behinds missed 100% free


Tex got two both ridiculous. The free against Wilkie ridiculous the free against Gears even worse.

Butler pinned 3 times for deliberate none even remotely close.

The free against Howard was there but didn’t pay one to us

What about Hill tackled for about 3 seconds and they still gave him an opportunity to get rid of it? Gresham dropped straight to his knees. I wouldn't have paid it.
Nothing is black and white. It's all in the eye of the umpire. Cheating is a ridiculous, emotive, even childish term to use. Umpiring was terrible tonight, no doubt, but cheating?? Come on.
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CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:37pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:24pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:18pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.
But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?

Pretty simple question champ, going to try answer it?

We got one dubious free in front the second on to Kent.

Gresham in the back easy call
Kent tackled Kelly when he slid on the ground
Hartigan handballs to the behinds missed 100% free


Tex got two both ridiculous. The free against Wilkie ridiculous the free against Gears even worse.

The free against Howard was there but didn’t pay one to us

Butler pinned 3 times for deliberate none even remotely close.
But why did any go our way if the umpires were conspiring against us?


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Post: # 1853816Post Mr Magic »

Well the AFL got what they deserved.
A winless Adelaide playing at home in front of their home crowd who have been starved of attending games.
Then they compounded the problem by appointing a set of officials who obviously have no feel for umpiring the rules together.
The result was the abomination of adjudication handed out by the 3 clowns.

I don't believe a single player or coach had any idea what decision was going to be paid when they heard the umpire's whistle blown.
It was seriously chook-lotto out there tonight.

Cheating - no (not to the level of Whispers in the Sky)
Incompetent - yes


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Post: # 1853819Post kosifantutti »

CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:37pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:24pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:18pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.
But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?

Pretty simple question champ, going to try answer it?

We got one dubious free in front the second on to Kent.

Gresham in the back easy call
Kent tackled Kelly when he slid on the ground
Hartigan handballs to the behinds missed 100% free


Tex got two both ridiculous. The free against Wilkie ridiculous the free against Gears even worse.

The free against Howard was there but didn’t pay one to us

Butler pinned 3 times for deliberate none even remotely close.
I missed the dubious free to Kent. Was it the one where the hippy jumped on his back or the one where the guy went to ground and made no effort to get rid off it?


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Post: # 1853824Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:41pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:37pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:24pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:18pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.
But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?

Pretty simple question champ, going to try answer it?

We got one dubious free in front the second on to Kent.

Gresham in the back easy call
Kent tackled Kelly when he slid on the ground
Hartigan handballs to the behinds missed 100% free


Tex got two both ridiculous. The free against Wilkie ridiculous the free against Gears even worse.

The free against Howard was there but didn’t pay one to us

Butler pinned 3 times for deliberate none even remotely close.
But why did any go our way if the umpires were conspiring against us?

Sometimes I suggest instinct kicks in. The see a fee and pay it. The four frees to Adelaide that were all ridiculous they had a choice but chose to favour one team.


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kosifantutti wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:45pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:37pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:24pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:18pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 20 Jul 2020 11:15pm The umpiring was bad.

But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?
Explain Tex’s two goals from putrid non existent frees. The two holding the ball frees and goals that both were just blatantly not there. They got 10 more frees but chased arse most of the night.
But explain how our 5 shots at goal from frees and Tex’s clear mark right in front not paid fits into the conspiracy?

Pretty simple question champ, going to try answer it?

We got one dubious free in front the second on to Kent.

Gresham in the back easy call
Kent tackled Kelly when he slid on the ground
Hartigan handballs to the behinds missed 100% free


Tex got two both ridiculous. The free against Wilkie ridiculous the free against Gears even worse.

The free against Howard was there but didn’t pay one to us

Butler pinned 3 times for deliberate none even remotely close.
I missed the dubious free to Kent. Was it the one where the hippy jumped on his back or the one where the guy went to ground and made no effort to get rid off it?
The first was correct the second was there but we were lucky they payed it.

Anyone want to explain Butlers 3 deliberates or when Kent tackled Jones who dropped it?

Or Gears free against any one ?


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Post: # 1853833Post SaintPav »

The umpiring was very poor but yeah, calling it out is a real conspiracy.

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Post: # 1853841Post stkfc1 »

I dont believe umps are cheating but the standard is just awful. Until we have full time umpires, the standard will stay awful.

Don't know if it's feasible. Maybe there should be enough so there is always at least one full time ump at every game and the rest part timers. It couldn't hurt.


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