Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
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All I know is the COVID-19 response by most governments around the world was based on pandemic modelling done by a bloke in the UK whose modelling was not only proven wrong in the past but who broke the lockdown to go and bonk his married girlfriend.Devilhead wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:28pmWhat they wont tell us is that Covid has actually been around for years and in the past has been misdiagnosed as the flu or a cold given they haven't been able to specifically test for it.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Would be interesting to know the flu stats and whether they have dropped during this Covid pandemic? - this could be the case cause humans have been socially distancing or it could be that Covid cases are now being diagnosed correctly and therefore flu numbers will decrease
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist
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I am sorry Scollop, I didn't realise that you were a Chinese Communist Party agent.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Did you gain you love for AFL football on Chinese TV, at the games in Shanghai or when you came to Australia (oops I am assuming you are here)
If you are here don't answer that knock on the door, it may NOT be a covid-19 testing team, it may be the federal police acting for ASIO.
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
My CIA sources tell me the virus was created by aliens at Area 51 working for Donald Trump who delivered the virus to Wuhan in their invisible space ships.Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:35pm Saynta,
Everything Ace says is true
Everything ScoMo says is true
Everything Trump says is true
Lots of mis information out there, including the theory that the virus was released from a lab
It's going to be interesting if this WHO study into the origins of Covid, backfires on Scomo and the USA
There are reports from scientific communities that create more questions and doubt regarding the origins of Covid 19. The US army was in Wuhan in October last year. US citizens may have been dying from Covid prior to the Wuhan outbreak
https://m.economictimes.com/news/intern ... 569812.cms
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1183658.shtml
Gee I hope the WHO investigators get to interview the aliens.
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
I was looking at this yesterday and the CDC in the USA say between 14k-62k occur from the flu each year however Covid-19 has killed 128k to date in the USA.Devilhead wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:28pmWhat they wont tell us is that Covid has actually been around for years and in the past has been misdiagnosed as the flu or a cold given they haven't been able to specifically test for it.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Would be interesting to know the flu stats and whether they have dropped during this Covid pandemic? - this could be the case cause humans have been socially distancing or it could be that Covid cases are now being diagnosed correctly and therefore flu numbers will decrease
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
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You are not going to lose your job to AI.
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
Correct Saint Pav - Those figures came from a computer modelling "expert": Professor Neil Ferguson - the epidemiologist known for his astonishing accuracy for projecting lives lost to Swine Flu, Bird Flu and Mad Cow Disease before that. He was not only wrong by many hundreds of thousands, but caused 6.5 Million cows to be unnecesarily slaughtered, with many farmers commiting suicide afterwards. Still, whats a massive worldwide disaster between friends?SaintPav wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:52pmAll I know is the COVID-19 response by most governments around the world was based on pandemic modelling done by a bloke in the UK whose modelling was not only proven wrong in the past but who broke the lockdown to go and bonk his married girlfriend.Devilhead wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:28pmWhat they wont tell us is that Covid has actually been around for years and in the past has been misdiagnosed as the flu or a cold given they haven't been able to specifically test for it.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Would be interesting to know the flu stats and whether they have dropped during this Covid pandemic? - this could be the case cause humans have been socially distancing or it could be that Covid cases are now being diagnosed correctly and therefore flu numbers will decrease
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist
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Yep.Harves Man wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 7:13amCorrect Saint Pav - Those figures came from a computer modelling "expert": Professor Neil Ferguson - the epidemiologist known for his astonishing accuracy for projecting lives lost to Swine Flu, Bird Flu and Mad Cow Disease before that. He was not only wrong by many hundreds of thousands, but caused 6.5 Million cows to be unnecesarily slaughtered, with many farmers commiting suicide afterwards. Still, whats a massive worldwide disaster between friends?SaintPav wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:52pmAll I know is the COVID-19 response by most governments around the world was based on pandemic modelling done by a bloke in the UK whose modelling was not only proven wrong in the past but who broke the lockdown to go and bonk his married girlfriend.Devilhead wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:28pmWhat they wont tell us is that Covid has actually been around for years and in the past has been misdiagnosed as the flu or a cold given they haven't been able to specifically test for it.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Would be interesting to know the flu stats and whether they have dropped during this Covid pandemic? - this could be the case cause humans have been socially distancing or it could be that Covid cases are now being diagnosed correctly and therefore flu numbers will decrease
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist
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I don't trust those numbers simply because their health system is governed by f***ed up incentives.Jacks Back wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 10:56pmI was looking at this yesterday and the CDC in the USA say between 14k-62k occur from the flu each year however Covid-19 has killed 128k to date in the USA.Devilhead wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:28pmWhat they wont tell us is that Covid has actually been around for years and in the past has been misdiagnosed as the flu or a cold given they haven't been able to specifically test for it.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Would be interesting to know the flu stats and whether they have dropped during this Covid pandemic? - this could be the case cause humans have been socially distancing or it could be that Covid cases are now being diagnosed correctly and therefore flu numbers will decrease
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist
Very credible experts are suggesting that the CFR is 1/10th of the widely reported rate of 3% which is plausible looking at the local data (assumes cases are 5x greater than reported).
The lockdowns, which I'm questioning and are not a costless exercise, cause other serious and long term problems. They won't make the virus go away and this thing could be around for a few years.
The government's response (lockdowns) has been driven by fear, groupthink and politics. Constant 24/7 media headlines and reports of young people dying (outliers) scaring the shi.t out of people isn't helping. Same old, same old.
It's a long game and like I said, this will be around for years.
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
Official virus toll US of A 2.7million. Unofficial but nearer the truth 22 millon infected,SaintPav wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 10:58amI don't trust those numbers simply because their health system is governed by f***ed up incentives.Jacks Back wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 10:56pmI was looking at this yesterday and the CDC in the USA say between 14k-62k occur from the flu each year however Covid-19 has killed 128k to date in the USA.Devilhead wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:28pmWhat they wont tell us is that Covid has actually been around for years and in the past has been misdiagnosed as the flu or a cold given they haven't been able to specifically test for it.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Would be interesting to know the flu stats and whether they have dropped during this Covid pandemic? - this could be the case cause humans have been socially distancing or it could be that Covid cases are now being diagnosed correctly and therefore flu numbers will decrease
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist
Very credible experts are suggesting that the CFR is 1/10th of the widely reported rate of 3% which is plausible looking at the local data (assumes cases are 5x greater than reported).
The lockdowns, which I'm questioning and which cause other serious problem won't make the virus go away and this thing could be around for a few years.
The government's response (lockdowns) has been driven by fear, groupthink and politics. Same old, same old.
It's a long game and like I said, this will be around for years.
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
So what you’re saying is that I shouldn’t be afraid of the Red Bear or Brown Bear or the Yellow peril, it’s the Liberal government using our federal police and security agnecies on their own people that I should really be afraid oface wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 10:18pmI am sorry Scollop, I didn't realise that you were a Chinese Communist Party agent.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Did you gain you love for AFL football on Chinese TV, at the games in Shanghai or when you came to Australia (oops I am assuming you are here)
If you are here don't answer that knock on the door, it may NOT be a covid-19 testing team, it may be the federal police acting for ASIO.
The indigenous first nations people of this land would have preferred that your lot went packing back in the 1700’s, but unfortunately their spears were no match for the British guns
I understand that Ace would like his utopian 1950’s White Australia to continue unchanged for centuries to come, but unfortunately we all know that’s not going to happen.
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It's behind a paywall, Uncle Ace - any chance you could maybe do a copy and paste job, please? Ta.ace wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 1:53am Virus source confirmed
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virus, as in computer/software virusHarves Man wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 12:04pmIt's behind a paywall, Uncle Ace - any chance you could maybe do a copy and paste job, please? Ta.ace wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 1:53am Virus source confirmed
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https://www.afr.com/technology/the-cybe ... 625-p555zn
Apart from Australia, there are other entities and other nations that use overt operations for commercial gains...Revelation!!
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One final point:
More people testing positive with minimal or average symptoms without the fatalities increasing is actually good news.
It really depends which way you look at it.
More people testing positive with minimal or average symptoms without the fatalities increasing is actually good news.
It really depends which way you look at it.
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Good Heavens! Shine On You Crazy Diamond.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 12:07pmvirus, as in computer/software virusHarves Man wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 12:04pmIt's behind a paywall, Uncle Ace - any chance you could maybe do a copy and paste job, please? Ta.ace wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 1:53am Virus source confirmed
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https://www.afr.com/technology/the-cybe ... 625-p555zn
Apart from Australia, there are other entities and other nations that use overt operations for commercial gains...Revelation!!
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
It was the socialist snot of the Labor party that created the White Australia policy, but the socialist controlled education union don't teach that anymore.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 11:55amSo what you’re saying is that I shouldn’t be afraid of the Red Bear or Brown Bear or the Yellow peril, it’s the Liberal government using our federal police and security agnecies on their own people that I should really be afraid oface wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 10:18pmI am sorry Scollop, I didn't realise that you were a Chinese Communist Party agent.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Did you gain you love for AFL football on Chinese TV, at the games in Shanghai or when you came to Australia (oops I am assuming you are here)
If you are here don't answer that knock on the door, it may NOT be a covid-19 testing team, it may be the federal police acting for ASIO.
The indigenous first nations people of this land would have preferred that your lot went packing back in the 1700’s, but unfortunately their spears were no match for the British guns
I understand that Ace would like his utopian 1950’s White Australia to continue unchanged for centuries to come, but unfortunately we all know that’s not going to happen.
Anybody that can not see and can not accept that by 2100 Australia will be a majority asian heritage nation lives in fairyland.
Get over it, live with it.
If I am wrong you can all come and collect a $1,000,000 each from me on 1 January 2100.
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If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
which version of white australia are you talking about ?
the settlement of early aus?
the early 1900s?
the WWII and post era ?
or the Howard/Abbott era?
But on to more pressing matters I am intrigued how I will be able to claim the $1mill in 2100
Will it be legal for your head sewn on to a baboons body to sign cheques?
the settlement of early aus?
the early 1900s?
the WWII and post era ?
or the Howard/Abbott era?
But on to more pressing matters I am intrigued how I will be able to claim the $1mill in 2100
Will it be legal for your head sewn on to a baboons body to sign cheques?
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ace wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 2:51pmIt was the socialist snot of the Labor party that created the White Australia policy, but the socialist controlled education union don't teach that anymore.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 11:55amSo what you’re saying is that I shouldn’t be afraid of the Red Bear or Brown Bear or the Yellow peril, it’s the Liberal government using our federal police and security agnecies on their own people that I should really be afraid oface wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 10:18pmI am sorry Scollop, I didn't realise that you were a Chinese Communist Party agent.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 8:58pm https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-t ... 25786.html
It’s going to be interesting if they also discover covid in USA water samples in early 2019, British water samples in early 2019, Italian water samples in early 2019, etc...
Did you gain you love for AFL football on Chinese TV, at the games in Shanghai or when you came to Australia (oops I am assuming you are here)
If you are here don't answer that knock on the door, it may NOT be a covid-19 testing team, it may be the federal police acting for ASIO.
The indigenous first nations people of this land would have preferred that your lot went packing back in the 1700’s, but unfortunately their spears were no match for the British guns
I understand that Ace would like his utopian 1950’s White Australia to continue unchanged for centuries to come, but unfortunately we all know that’s not going to happen.
Anybody that can not see and can not accept that by 2100 Australia will be a majority asian heritage nation lives in fairyland.
Get over it, live with it.
If I am wrong you can all come and collect a $1,000,000 each from me on 1 January 2100.
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
The White Australia Policy formally Immigration Restriction Act of 1901.sunsaint wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 3:51pm which version of white australia are you talking about ?
the settlement of early aus?
the early 1900s?
the WWII and post era ?
or the Howard/Abbott era?
But on to more pressing matters I am intrigued how I will be able to claim the $1mill in 2100
Will it be legal for your head sewn on to a baboons body to sign cheques?
Fortunately, indigenous Australians were already here so the Immigration Restriction Act did not apply to them.
Both white fellas and black fellas had better hope there is no Yellow Australia policy after 2100.
They might need new homes.
You may have spotted the problem collecting but many don't have the IQ to figure it out.
Then again I might live to be 147.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
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That’s ridiculous. It can’t possibly occur...because I reckon cheques will be obsolete way before 2099sunsaint wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 3:51pm which version of white australia are you talking about ?
the settlement of early aus?
the early 1900s?
the WWII and post era ?
or the Howard/Abbott era?
But on to more pressing matters I am intrigued how I will be able to claim the $1mill in 2100
Will it be legal for your head sewn on to a baboons body to sign cheques?
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dont care really as long as its legal Im having my solicitor draw it up now in my will as an asset
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Go ahead I should easily be able to cover the bet in 80 years time.
My self managed super fund has made 25.5% for the just completed financial year despite the All Ordinaries Index going backward 10.42%
1.255^80 = 77,992,934 x $A few million = I could easily buy the entire world !!!
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Re: Essendon player tests positive to COVID 19
Blimey, what sort of investments are you in ace to get that return and where can I get me some of that?ace wrote: ↑Tue 30 Jun 2020 9:43pmGo ahead I should easily be able to cover the bet in 80 years time.
My self managed super fund has made 25.5% for the just completed financial year despite the All Ordinaries Index going backward 10.42%
1.255^80 = 77,992,934 x $A few million = I could easily buy the entire world !!!
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!