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15 Goals 3

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15.3 - The only stat that matters - the one that won us the game!

The other major stats tell a similar tale of the tape!
CategorySt KildavRichmond
Disposals315313
Contested118118
Uncontested186202
Efficiency70.570.6
Free Kicks1515
Hit Outs3126
Clearance3329
Turnovers5659
Tackles5151
Inside 50s3839
Goals1510
Points37
Scoring Shots1817
How long has it been since accuracy in front of the goals WON St Kilda a game???


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Too right. Kick like that every week and we're a huge chance to win every game. In recent times we would miss a few sitters in fron of goal.


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Too right. Kick like that every week and we're a huge chance to win every game. In recent times we would miss a few sitters in fron of goal.


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29.7 in our two wins.
12.19 in our two losses.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 9:39pm 15.3 - The only stat that matters - the one that won us the game!

The other major stats tell a similar tale of the tape!
CategorySt KildavRichmond
Disposals315313
Contested118118
Uncontested186202
Efficiency70.570.6
Free Kicks1515
Hit Outs3126
Clearance3329
Turnovers5659
Tackles5151
Inside 50s3839
Goals1510
Points37
Scoring Shots1817
How long has it been since accuracy in front of the goals WON St Kilda a game???
14.4 against Dogs at Dromana Drive In was pretty special too.

I was at a game at the G 30 years ago when we actually kicked 18.2 against 'Dons and won by a goal. And I think we kicked a similar scoreline 25 years ago against Cats at the G and won by a goal as well, but you've got to go a long way back.


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Ratts said publicly that we were bottom 2 in league for accuracy outside 50 or on a sharp angle?
Can't recall the spots exactly.
Then he said we wanted to get the ball close and in front to maximise chances.

It helps if ball is delivered well, too, and our forwards have their tactics sorted.

One commentator was saying our fwds seemed to have body-on-body against Tiges not letting them double team any one fwd, or sonething.

It was very impressive.
I wonder if Roughy has helped a lot, our previous fwd coaches didn't seem to have the guys on song.

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samuraisaint wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 10:14pm
14.4 against Dogs at Dromana Drive In was pretty special too.

I was at a game at the G 30 years ago when we actually kicked 18.2 against 'Dons and won by a goal. And I think we kicked a similar scoreline 25 years ago against Cats at the G and won by a goal as well, but you've got to go a long way back.
Round 18 1994 - 18.2 v Essendon's 15.10
Round 13 1956 - 13.2 v Footscrays 11.13

Both of these games we had far less shots at goal so truly we won by accurate kicking

Round 2 2010 23.5 v North Melbourne 6.3 we won but had 3 times as many scoring shots.

Round 16 1981 16.4 v South Melbourne 22.19 - Accurate but smashed

14.4 is equal 11th in our history

15.3 is our 3rd most accurate in history!

And it felt good being against Richmond on Maddies Match!


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 10:37pm
samuraisaint wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 10:14pm
14.4 against Dogs at Dromana Drive In was pretty special too.

I was at a game at the G 30 years ago when we actually kicked 18.2 against 'Dons and won by a goal. And I think we kicked a similar scoreline 25 years ago against Cats at the G and won by a goal as well, but you've got to go a long way back.
Round 18 1994 - 18.2 v Essendon's 15.10
Round 13 1956 - 13.2 v Footscrays 11.13

Both of these games we had far less shots at goal so truly we won by accurate kicking

Round 2 2010 23.5 v North Melbourne 6.3 we won but had 3 times as many scoring shots.

Round 16 1981 16.4 v South Melbourne 22.19 - Accurate but smashed

14.4 is equal 11th in our history

15.3 is our 3rd most accurate in history!

And it felt good being against Richmond on Maddies Match!
I remember the Essendon match very well. Big crowd at the G. We just kept holding them off and keeping them at arms length.

The North game was great - 104 point victors - we nearly kicked our biggest ever score against them that night too, but Schneids was dragged down in a tackle as he was running into goal.

I was also at the Lake Oval against South in 1981 as a kid with my cousins. We kicked nine goals STRAIGHT in the first quarter, had the game won as South barely got a look in and then inexplicably slowed down, and eventually stopped. Then the Swans ran away with it and kicked an absolute cricket score against us. Bad times.


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Post: # 1849607Post Trixilver »

Todays win as well as the bulldogs win this year will rank on our record table AFL stats most accurate games with 15+ scoring shots:

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/stkilda/gamer.html#12

And I think even the all time record table:

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/allteams/gamer.html#12

That 18.2 against Essendon is ranked #1 most accurate of all time btw


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2 of the 3 behinds hit the post


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I wonder if this level of accuracy is sustainable

If it is... this will make us a serious premiership threat


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It isn’t rocket science, is it.

It’s baffling that more importance hasn’t been placed on goal kicking, especially over the last few years when it cost us multiple games.


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Glitch in the Matrix?


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samuraisaint wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 11:30pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 10:37pm
samuraisaint wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 10:14pm
14.4 against Dogs at Dromana Drive In was pretty special too.

I was at a game at the G 30 years ago when we actually kicked 18.2 against 'Dons and won by a goal. And I think we kicked a similar scoreline 25 years ago against Cats at the G and won by a goal as well, but you've got to go a long way back.
Round 18 1994 - 18.2 v Essendon's 15.10
Round 13 1956 - 13.2 v Footscrays 11.13

Both of these games we had far less shots at goal so truly we won by accurate kicking

Round 2 2010 23.5 v North Melbourne 6.3 we won but had 3 times as many scoring shots.

Round 16 1981 16.4 v South Melbourne 22.19 - Accurate but smashed

14.4 is equal 11th in our history

15.3 is our 3rd most accurate in history!

And it felt good being against Richmond on Maddies Match!
I remember the Essendon match very well. Big crowd at the G. We just kept holding them off and keeping them at arms length.

The North game was great - 104 point victors - we nearly kicked our biggest ever score against them that night too, but Schneids was dragged down in a tackle as he was running into goal.

I was also at the Lake Oval against South in 1981 as a kid with my cousins. We kicked nine goals STRAIGHT in the first quarter, had the game won as South barely got a look in and then inexplicably slowed down, and eventually stopped. Then the Swans ran away with it and kicked an absolute cricket score against us. Bad times.
Fantastic!
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Essendon.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1 ... 40723.html

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f*** yeah!

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Two reasons for this.

1 / No crowd. Clearly less stressful for the players. I wouldn't be surprised if accuracy was much better across the whole comp.

2 / Better shots from better ball movement.


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carn_sainter wrote: Sun 28 Jun 2020 4:04am Two reasons for this.

1 / No crowd. Clearly less stressful for the players. I wouldn't be surprised if accuracy was much better across the whole comp.

2 / Better shots from better ball movement.
Yes. But wrong order 2>1


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carn_sainter wrote: Sun 28 Jun 2020 4:04am Two reasons for this.

1 / No crowd. Clearly less stressful for the players. I wouldn't be surprised if accuracy was much better across the whole comp.

2 / Better shots from better ball movement.
Essendon nearly won last night off the back of an 8.2 performance. Carlton kicked 7.10 or something and pinched it at the death.

True - but once you get technique right it becomes a habit and it only takes 28 days for a habit to form.

This might be a crucial element in player development.

Scoreboard pressure is key to defeating the better sides, then luck seems to fall your way.


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Scoring goals because more shots are from closer in and from better angles but more importantly a higher percentage from set shots.
Set shots because not bombing it into the goal square to have it come to ground and hopefully someone has a snap shot.
"Bombers" replaced by "hit a target recruits".
"Bombers" managers already talking to Essendon.
Plus more accurate kicking from the "recruits" who have replaced "butchers".

Collingwood killed us with their elite kicking and handball.
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Goose is king wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 11:44pm 2 of the 3 behinds hit the post
Time to move the goal posts.


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I am getting old but the 15.4 we kicked in the rain and mud in the 1966 Preliminary Final was a pretty special performance. Ian Stewart had 18 kicks by half time.

We had one more scoring shot and were far less accurate the next week against Collingwood but still had a happy ending.

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samuraisaint wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 11:30pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 10:37pm
samuraisaint wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 10:14pm
14.4 against Dogs at Dromana Drive In was pretty special too.

I was at a game at the G 30 years ago when we actually kicked 18.2 against 'Dons and won by a goal. And I think we kicked a similar scoreline 25 years ago against Cats at the G and won by a goal as well, but you've got to go a long way back.
Round 18 1994 - 18.2 v Essendon's 15.10
Round 13 1956 - 13.2 v Footscrays 11.13

Both of these games we had far less shots at goal so truly we won by accurate kicking

Round 2 2010 23.5 v North Melbourne 6.3 we won but had 3 times as many scoring shots.

Round 16 1981 16.4 v South Melbourne 22.19 - Accurate but smashed

14.4 is equal 11th in our history

15.3 is our 3rd most accurate in history!

And it felt good being against Richmond on Maddies Match!
I remember the Essendon match very well. Big crowd at the G. We just kept holding them off and keeping them at arms length.

The North game was great - 104 point victors - we nearly kicked our biggest ever score against them that night too, but Schneids was dragged down in a tackle as he was running into goal.

I was also at the Lake Oval against South in 1981 as a kid with my cousins. We kicked nine goals STRAIGHT in the first quarter, had the game won as South barely got a look in and then inexplicably slowed down, and eventually stopped. Then the Swans ran away with it and kicked an absolute cricket score against us. Bad times.
That Lake Oval swamp has been turned into an athletics venue.
The bowling club that blocked one wing has been drowned in the swamp.
Good riddance.
I absolutely hated that ground.
It was near impossible to find space on a wing.

You had to stand at either end and could not see.
Same problem at the Western Oval and the Glenferrie sardine can.


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Is it mostly to do with getting into better positions to take the shots? That is, the build-up rather than the straight shooting? I hope so, because that's sustainable.


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These scorelines have been an absolute joy to behold. I (almost) don't have to hide my face when we're running into an open goal.

We've haven't been able to hit a barn for years. This is just magnificent.


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skeptic wrote: Sat 27 Jun 2020 11:56pm I wonder if this level of accuracy is sustainable

If it is... this will make us a serious premiership threat
Well our level of inaccuracy was sustainable so fingers crossed.


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