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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847282Post saintspremiers »

Saintmatt wrote: Fri 12 Jun 2020 9:30am
skeptic wrote: Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:17pm
ace wrote: Thu 11 Jun 2020 9:55pm B Jarryn Geary - Dougal Howard - Callum Wilkie
HB Ben Long - Jake Carlisle - Hunter Clark
C Bradley Hill - Zak Jones - Dan Hannebery
HF Jack Lonie - Max King - Jack Billings
F Tim Membrey - Rowan Marshall - Jade Gresham
R Paddy Ryder - Jack Steele - Sebastian Ross
INT Josh Battle - Jonathon Marsh - Nicholas Hind - Dan Butler
Dean Kent - Luke Dunstan - Nick Coffield
Int = Battle, Marsh, Hind and Coffield and I’ll take it.

The question for me is with shorter quarters, Battle as a make shift ruck and Dunstan as an extra mid is a better fit
I love Battle - he's going to be a serious player - probably as a wingman in the end. I've been watching him since he was in Yr 11 at Hailebury and I can tell you that his vertical leap is not great hence, they've picked Marsh. Marsh can play key forward / back and can play 2nd ruck. I can't see them selecting Ryder - the consensus seems to be that shorter quarters won't suit that strategy (too easy to defend a resting ruckman and easily exploited by a smaller defender running off)
Marsh’s blistering pace at half forward and goal vs Hawks at Moorabbin in the practice match sealed his spot. It was an unbelievable sight to see live, even for a practice match.

He has some X factor


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847283Post Yorkeys »

As pointed out, much better line up than fielded in last couple of seasons. Wonder who will actually be at CHF &CHB.
Carslise might be under and injury/cold cloud.
Just need to get a settled team and have it play a lot of games together - we have lacked team work and composure too often even if individually the players are v. good footballers.
Really looking forward to it particularly as experts have made Doggies short priced favourites.


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Re: Team v Dogs

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Saintmatt wrote: Fri 12 Jun 2020 9:30am
skeptic wrote: Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:17pm
ace wrote: Thu 11 Jun 2020 9:55pm B Jarryn Geary - Dougal Howard - Callum Wilkie
HB Ben Long - Jake Carlisle - Hunter Clark
C Bradley Hill - Zak Jones - Dan Hannebery
HF Jack Lonie - Max King - Jack Billings
F Tim Membrey - Rowan Marshall - Jade Gresham
R Paddy Ryder - Jack Steele - Sebastian Ross
INT Josh Battle - Jonathon Marsh - Nicholas Hind - Dan Butler
Dean Kent - Luke Dunstan - Nick Coffield
Int = Battle, Marsh, Hind and Coffield and I’ll take it.

The question for me is with shorter quarters, Battle as a make shift ruck and Dunstan as an extra mid is a better fit
I love Battle - he's going to be a serious player - probably as a wingman in the end. I've been watching him since he was in Yr 11 at Hailebury and I can tell you that his vertical leap is not great hence, they've picked Marsh. Marsh can play key forward / back and can play 2nd ruck. I can't see them selecting Ryder - the consensus seems to be that shorter quarters won't suit that strategy (too easy to defend a resting ruckman and easily exploited by a smaller defender running off)
Very interesting Saintmatt. So you would have watched a lot of Clavarino. I was hoping to get a glimpse of him this year but with the discovery of Wilkie, the return of Roberton and recruitment of Howard, that seems unlikely.

Are you as bullish about Clavarino as Battle?


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847335Post shrodes »

IN: Carlisle, Hind, Coffield
EMER: Battle, Marsh, Kent, Dunstan

Dunstan a bit stiff I reckon


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Re: Team v Dogs

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Dunstan was in our top 3 players against the Roos, dropping him is a joke. On Footy Live, he had the most dream team points. Stupid decision.


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Re: Team v Dogs

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Just adding to Shrode’s post

B Ben Paton Callum Wilkie Dougal Howard
HB Ben Long Hunter Clark Jarryn Geary
C Bradley Hill Zak Jones Dan Hannebery
HF Jack Lonie Max King Jack Billings
F Paddy Ryder Tim Membrey Jade Gresham
R Rowan Marshall Jack Steele Sebastian Ross
INT Jake Carlisle Nick Coffield Dan Butler
Nicholas Hind

Would have preferred Marsh in ahead of Butler and perhaps Battle for Ryder (don’t reckon we need two rucks) but feel this is a better team than round one


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847341Post skeptic »

I get the Dunstan criticism but I think it’s a balance thing...
Dunstan, Steele, Hannebery, Ross - similar type of player and IMO there’s room for 3 of them


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Re: Team v Dogs

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Staggered that Dunstan is out

Maybe more to it (just a guess), maybe came back from iso not as fit as he should

But does seem odd, he was fantastic in the first half against Roos


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Re: Team v Dogs

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skeptic wrote: Fri 12 Jun 2020 6:14pm I get the Dunstan criticism but I think it’s a balance thing...
Dunstan, Steele, Hannebery, Ross - similar type of player and IMO there’s room for 3 of them
Maybe but once Steele goes to Bont then only 3


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Re: Team v Dogs

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from saints.com.au

"Three Saints will make their first senior appearances of 2020 ahead of Sunday's season restart against the Western Bulldogs.

Jake Carlisle, Nicholas Hind and Nick Coffield will don the red, white and black for the first time in 2020 in Round 2, with Luke Dunstan, Dean Kent and Dylan Roberton all omitted.

Back issues prevented a Round 1 berth for Carlisle, but thanks to a diligent training regime over the shutdown period, the big man is now primed and ready.

Hind and Coffield, meanwhile, have been banging down the selection door since their return to the club, impressing enough to earn a spot in the senior side.

Ben Long and Jade Gresham are fit and firing following injuries sustained in Round 1, while Jack Steele is good to go after minor wrist surgery.

Josh Battle and Jonathon Marsh – along with Kent and Dunstan – have been named as emergencies.

St Kilda will set its sights on securing its first win of the year against the Western Bulldogs on Sunday, 14 June at Marvel Stadium, with the opening bounce at 6:05pm.

IN: Carlisle, Coffield, Hind
OUT: Dunstan (omitted), Kent (omitted), Roberton (omitted)


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847348Post Peanut Farm »

Dunstan 20 disposals, 9 tackles (the most for the team) & 6 inside 50's. Stupid decision.


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847349Post StPeter »

Dunstan very stiff.

Definitely in our best against North and good pre-season form.

I thought Roberton also showed enough to keep his place.


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Re: Team v Dogs

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Happy Coffield and Carlisle are in... very surprised Dunstan is our.


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Re: Team v Dogs

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I like Kent out, don’t like Dunstan out

I do like the 3 ins tho


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Re: Team v Dogs

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Only reason I can think re Dunstan out is worried about the speed of dogs


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Re: Team v Dogs

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Patience with Luke's foot skills may have run out.


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Re: Team v Dogs

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I think that is true older saint & yorkeys & skeptic. If you only had reason to pick 3 of 4 from Steele, Hannebery, Dunstan and Ross to allow more pace, who misses?

Speed & clean disposal are the Dog's weapons. Neither are in Luke's wheelhouse.

The Dog's Achilles heel is the Ruck & height. We need first use, I like Ryder in.


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Re: Team v Dogs

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If we lose this game with this squad..is it curtains for the season ? I think so


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Re: Team v Dogs

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I like the fact I agree with the team selection and am still annoyed with one or two of the omissions! For too many years the team has almost picked itself...competition for spots is good for us.

Any slip ups or laziness from the backline has Battle and Roberton waiting in the wings. Same can be said for Dunstan in the centre.....love it!


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847359Post The_Dud »

Injuries are inevitable, so the other blokes will get a go at some stage.


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Re: Team v Dogs

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The Fireman wrote: Fri 12 Jun 2020 7:33pm If we lose this game with this squad..is it curtains for the season ? I think so
mr up

i find that with waking up in the morning

another good day already totally ruined


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who gets to hurt Bruce ?


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847362Post Freebird »

older saint wrote: Fri 12 Jun 2020 7:05pm Only reason I can think re Dunstan out is worried about the speed of dogs
What about his disposal


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847363Post ace »

It looks like they are going with
(after rearranging)

B Jarryn Geary - Dougal Howard - Callum Wilkie
HB Ben Long - Jake Carlisle - Hunter Clark
C Bradley Hill - Zak Jones - Dan Hannebery
HF Jack Lonie - Max King - Jack Billings
F Tim Membrey - Rowan Marshall - Jade Gresham
R Paddy Ryder - Jack Steele - Sebastian Ross
INT Ben Paton - Nicholas Hind - Dan Butler - Nick Coffield
EMG Dean Kent - Luke Dunstan - Josh Battle - Jonathon Marsh

Going for extra speed at the expense of height.


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Re: Team v Dogs

Post: # 1847364Post Devilhead »

Dunstan has had his chance

Too slow, below average footskills, struggles to mark overhead

Lets face it he ain't going to improve us - we have better younger prospects

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