If games are being played without crowds ...

[Groovy Guru]

Then why can't all of St kilda's scheduled home games be played at Moorabbin.

It has the facilities to cater for teams only. It has lights to play at night. The financial impact would be less than playing at the docklands.

I really cannot see any reason why it can't be done.

[Sainter_Dad]

Then why can't all of St kilda's scheduled home games be played at Moorabbin.

It has the facilities to cater for teams only. It has lights to play at night. The financial impact would be less than playing at the docklands.

I really cannot see any reason why it can't be done.

Great call - but it will not happen as there will be a certain amount that we have to pay to Marvel whether or not the crowd is there.

[saynta]

Then why can't all of St kilda's scheduled home games be played at Moorabbin.

It has the facilities to cater for teams only. It has lights to play at night. The financial impact would be less than playing at the docklands.

I really cannot see any reason why it can't be done.

They are talking about playing games at corruptus oval so why not.

[Life Long Saint]

Then why can't all of St kilda's scheduled home games be played at Moorabbin.

It has the facilities to cater for teams only. It has lights to play at night. The financial impact would be less than playing at the docklands.

I really cannot see any reason why it can't be done.

Great call - but it will not happen as there will be a certain amount that we have to pay to Marvel whether or not the crowd is there.

It's up to the AFL where the games are played...
Given that crowds aren't a factor and the AFL owns Marvel, I think you'll see more games at Marvel that might have otherwise been played at the MCG.
Suburban grounds might be a consideration...

[Sainter_Dad]

Additionally - there will just be a couple of cameras at Moorabbin as opposed to the fixed ones at Marvel. And St Kilda would want to charge the AFL for playing at Linton St - so I am guessing the AFL would prefer to pay themselves.

[The_Dud]

Can’t fit as much advertising around the ground for the cameras.

[Life Long Saint]

Surely the technology is there to superimpose crowds in the stands when broadcasting!

[Saintmatt]

FWIW it's worth - this is not about where the games are played (apart from Adelaide, Port, Freo and WCE as they have fixed contracts to play all their home games at AAMI and Optus respectively - hence, we play Port in China as a St K home game) - this is solely about playing the games where the electronic boundary and grandstand / scoreboard signage is.

The only game day revenue stream the clubs are going to get for the foreseeable is from signage advertising. As much as the idea of Moorabbin, Aden St, Vic Park etc are nice romantic ideas ... it's not going to happen. The reason that Carlton's ground is being considered as a venue is that its the most central of non-MSG/Marvel venues, and has grandstands - rather than grass hills. Unlike Moorabbin's; it's lights are also better. They're currently working on a plan to install temporary electric signage there.

[Life Long Saint]

FWIW it's worth - this is not about where the games are played (apart from Adelaide, Port, Freo and WCE as they have fixed contracts to play all their home games at AAMI and Optus respectively - hence, we play Port in China as a St K home game) - this is solely about playing the games where the electronic boundary and grandstand / scoreboard signage is.

The only game day revenue stream the clubs are going to get for the foreseeable is from signage advertising. As much as the idea of Moorabbin, Aden St, Vic Park etc are nice romantic ideas ... it's not going to happen. The reason that Carlton's ground is being considered as a venue is that its the most central of non-MSG/Marvel venues, and has grandstands - rather than grass hills. Unlike Moorabbin's; it's lights are also better. They're currently working on a plan to install temporary electric signage there.

You can super impose advertising on the ground or in the empty stands...
NRL coverage already does this.
Same tech that has the WR line and lane markings in swimming. Fox Footy already use it for scores and various stats during the game.

[Jacks Back]

FWIW it's worth - this is not about where the games are played (apart from Adelaide, Port, Freo and WCE as they have fixed contracts to play all their home games at AAMI and Optus respectively - hence, we play Port in China as a St K home game) - this is solely about playing the games where the electronic boundary and grandstand / scoreboard signage is.

The only game day revenue stream the clubs are going to get for the foreseeable is from signage advertising. As much as the idea of Moorabbin, Aden St, Vic Park etc are nice romantic ideas ... it's not going to happen. The reason that Carlton's ground is being considered as a venue is that its the most central of non-MSG/Marvel venues, and has grandstands - rather than grass hills. Unlike Moorabbin's; it's lights are also better. They're currently working on a plan to install temporary electric signage there.

I'm not sure where these venues are?

[minneapolis]

FWIW it's worth - this is not about where the games are played (apart from Adelaide, Port, Freo and WCE as they have fixed contracts to play all their home games at AAMI and Optus respectively - hence, we play Port in China as a St K home game) - this is solely about playing the games where the electronic boundary and grandstand / scoreboard signage is.

The only game day revenue stream the clubs are going to get for the foreseeable is from signage advertising. As much as the idea of Moorabbin, Aden St, Vic Park etc are nice romantic ideas ... it's not going to happen. The reason that Carlton's ground is being considered as a venue is that its the most central of non-MSG/Marvel venues, and has grandstands - rather than grass hills. Unlike Moorabbin's; it's lights are also better. They're currently working on a plan to install temporary electric signage there.

I'm not sure where these venues are?

It is a low-salt venue.

[Saintmatt]

FWIW it's worth - this is not about where the games are played (apart from Adelaide, Port, Freo and WCE as they have fixed contracts to play all their home games at AAMI and Optus respectively - hence, we play Port in China as a St K home game) - this is solely about playing the games where the electronic boundary and grandstand / scoreboard signage is.

The only game day revenue stream the clubs are going to get for the foreseeable is from signage advertising. As much as the idea of Moorabbin, Aden St, Vic Park etc are nice romantic ideas ... it's not going to happen. The reason that Carlton's ground is being considered as a venue is that its the most central of non-MSG/Marvel venues, and has grandstands - rather than grass hills. Unlike Moorabbin's; it's lights are also better. They're currently working on a plan to install temporary electric signage there.

You can super impose advertising on the ground or in the empty stands...
NRL coverage already does this.
Same tech that has the WR line and lane markings in swimming. Fox Footy already use it for scores and various stats during the game.

That's true. But it's bloody difficult to do that when you have no stands there to project ads on to. Boundary signage - yes - but eg at the established large AFL grounds - there's 2 or 3 levels of perimeter signage above the boundary that won't be able to be monetised.

[stjohnc]

lights aren't good enough either

[saynta]

Games are being shortened I hear. 16 minute quarters plus time on.

[Devilhead]

Games are being shortened I hear. 16 minute quarters plus time on.

How does 4 mins less per quarter make a difference?

Financial?

[Jacks Back]

Games are being shortened I hear. 16 minute quarters plus time on.

How does 4 mins less per quarter make a difference?

Financial?

There may be only 4-5 days between games and so less load on the players I believe.

[Devilhead]

Games are being shortened I hear. 16 minute quarters plus time on.

How does 4 mins less per quarter make a difference?

Financial?

There may be only 4-5 days between games and so less load on the players I believe.

They are going to be only playing 17 games anyway - also if it means they have to cram games in because the season gets put on hold at some stage then the players will have a natural break before starting back - so then kick in 16 mins per quarter when they start to cram

[SAINT-LEE]

I heard they're considering 5 minute quarters and teams can punch on, MMA rules, no referee interference, unless someone starts talking politics.
Supposedly sponsored by MMA & AFL to raise revenue.