Max King and Round 1

[Harves Man]

Why would you think anything anyone writes on an internet footy forum would upset any member?
I find your personal references a bit odd to be honest, but I am not offended.

Thinking back the last forum member I read that got very upset was a person who went under the nic of Cairnsman who went nuts and wanted to punch somebodys head at a pub. I think he then had a couple of different nics as he/she faced bans. Their spiral was pretty comical actually

Now commenting personally does not deflect from the questions I have put forward SK.
If you don't think Max or Dougal Howard should be selected round 1, who do you think is more deserving of a spot? I have listed a few players above I consider on the fringe of selection, is there any in that list or a player I have missed that should be in front of Max & Dougie Howser.

In response to your questions:
1. Did not see Ratts interview.
2. Hard to see all on TV but max took a couple of good contested marks, I though his agility for a guy his size coming of a reco and ankle injury was brilliant and I think his height and speed will make some very good defenders nervous and very keen to keep him close and block his run.
His set shots have always been an issue from what I have seen.
In for round 1 no doubt and would retain his spot on that performance.
He adds a different dimension to Membrey and Ryder/Marshall forward and if he continues to compete hard in the air that Lonie, Butler, Gresham, Billings etc will get plenty of crumbs.
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A simply delicious post, Joffa! (Edit - oops, I screwed the quote function up).

[Secret Kiel]

What's your definition of a pack mark?

Ummm, a mark in a pack.

Which players are your example of a pack mark currently playing the game?

[Secret Kiel]

Remember St Nick in Round #15 2001?

3 Kicks
1 Mark
1 Behind.

$1000 says King betters that in his debut.

The context is significantly different. We were a basket case and Roo probably was the biggest stat gatherer that match. A coach got sacked after that game and Roo hardly came up in conversation. He was afforded development time with 44 other players for a few years after that.

We are expected to beat North and play finals.

If Maxy puts in a shocker and we lose to North it could be terrible for his confidence.

[minneapolis]

its a ‘game plan’ decision isn’t it ?

the only way the giraffe is gunna get legs
is to play him

que

we are building a side that can kick a goal
... isn’t that the plan ?

dudes who can dish it out
to dudes who can kick it
to dudes who can mark it

or am i missing something ?


edit

and then
hopefully ,
the boys that mark it
can kick it through the big sticks

You are correct, A.

When the Romans were playing the Corinthians at the C on a Saturni, the Praeco Sol called them Quod Biggus Stickus.

[BarryGrogan]

What's your definition of a pack mark?

Ummm, a mark in a pack.

Which players are your example of a pack mark currently playing the game?

Jeremy McGovern, Josh Kennedy, Mason Cox, Joe Daniher, Tim Membrey, Tim Lynch off the top of my head.

[bigcarl]

The context is significantly different. We were a basket case and Roo probably was the biggest stat gatherer that match. A coach got sacked after that game and Roo hardly came up in conversation. He was afforded development time with 44 other players for a few years after that.

We are expected to beat North and play finals.

If Maxy puts in a shocker and we lose to North it could be terrible for his confidence.

They have to debut at some stage and I hope we’re not timid about this. Now is as good a time as any and I suspect Ratts is not as risk averse as his predecessor.

I think King is ready to debut, but he shouldn’t and won’t be expected to star immediately and kick us a winning score.

Start him on the half forward line with Marshall or Membrey or Battle or Ryder deep.

He’ll be fine.

[Secret Kiel]

What's your definition of a pack mark?

Ummm, a mark in a pack.

Which players are your example of a pack mark currently playing the game?

Jeremy McGovern, Josh Kennedy, Mason Cox, Joe Daniher, Tim Membrey, Tim Lynch off the top of my head.

I reckon you need to put some meat on the bone with your definition of a pack mark because those names you've thrown up just add more ambiguity.

[The Fireman]

Pack marks and cough ups ...... the ambiguity king is our Baz

[Legendary]

In his first two years (28 games), Nick Riewoldt kicked 23 goals and 20 behinds.

Over the rest of his career (308 games), Nick kicked 695 goals and 435 behind for an accuracy of 62%.

Inaccuracy is normal for a key forward early in their career.

[BarryGrogan]

In his first two years (28 games), Nick Riewoldt kicked 23 goals and 20 behinds.

Over the rest of his career (308 games), Nick kicked 695 goals and 435 behind for an accuracy of 62%.

Inaccuracy is normal for a key forward early in their career.

Riewoldt wasn't a key forward in his first two years, hence his goal kicking wasn't great.

Considering we had Gehrig and Loewe as the pillars, with Hamill as well, Riewoldt was a flanker.

[DJ Higgins]

In his first two years (28 games), Nick Riewoldt kicked 23 goals and 20 behinds.

Over the rest of his career (308 games), Nick kicked 695 goals and 435 behind for an accuracy of 62%.

Inaccuracy is normal for a key forward early in their career.

That isn't quite true. Huge fan of roo like everyone on here but his kicking wasn't 60% as that seems too high. Did you factor in shots that missed completely or those that became passes

[The Fireman]

Rooeys kicking for goal was terrible for a long time..was quite good last few seasons..like Buckets.

[BarryGrogan]

In his first two years (28 games), Nick Riewoldt kicked 23 goals and 20 behinds.

Over the rest of his career (308 games), Nick kicked 695 goals and 435 behind for an accuracy of 62%.

Inaccuracy is normal for a key forward early in their career.

That isn't quite true. Huge fan of roo like everyone on here but his kicking wasn't 60% as that seems too high. Did you factor in shots that missed completely or those that became passes

His 'goal to behind ratio' was 62%.

[BarryGrogan]

Pack marks and cough ups ...... the ambiguity king is our Baz

I don't understand this post - unless it's solely intened to be inflammatory.

If you feel something I've said is unclear or ambiguous, andnit bothers you - you simply just have to ask me to clarify it and I will.

[shanegrambeau]

From our perspective, it seems we have to play him...no choice. Our investment needs to grow. Give him oxygen and sunlight ....play him.
But from North Melbourne's perspective, Max has a half life as long as the first quarter and will be forgotten at the close of play. I can't help thinking they would hope he gets picked as he presents a liability for St Kilda - the Saints HAVE to play him, it's their burden, their risk.
They will be sweating on Hill etc. and they might play their second Ruckman too, Tristan which might be interesting for our selectors.

[The Fireman]

Pack marks and cough ups ...... the ambiguity king is our Baz

I don't understand this post - unless it's solely intened to be inflammatory.

If you feel something I've said is unclear or ambiguous, andnit bothers you - you simply just have to ask me to clarify it and I will.

ok the ambiguity king finds this post ambiguous ..it doesnt bother me but please clarify all the cough ups that you claim Long made in the first half of the Marsh game against the skunks..
I have it recorded it so I will be able to critique you observations.

I said in an earlier post that I was going to give you a wide berth.. guess I'm a glutton for punishment
but I feel I may have to adhere to it .

[magnifisaint]

What's your definition of a pack mark?

Ummm, a mark in a pack.

Which players are your example of a pack mark currently playing the game?

Jeremy McGovern, Josh Kennedy, Mason Cox, Joe Daniher, Tim Membrey, Tim Lynch off the top of my head.

Youve lost me on Tim Lynch!

[saynta]

What's your definition of a pack mark?

Ummm, a mark in a pack.

Which players are your example of a pack mark currently playing the game?

Jeremy McGovern, Josh Kennedy, Mason Cox, Joe Daniher, Tim Membrey, Tim Lynch off the top of my head.

Youve lost me on Tim Lynch!

Which one? There are two Tom Lynch's playing first grade AFL.

[CURLY]

From our perspective, it seems we have to play him...no choice. Our investment needs to grow. Give him oxygen and sunlight ....play him.
But from North Melbourne's perspective, Max has a half life as long as the first quarter and will be forgotten at the close of play. I can't help thinking they would hope he gets picked as he presents a liability for St Kilda - the Saints HAVE to play him, it's their burden, their risk.
They will be sweating on Hill etc. and they might play their second Ruckman too, Tristan which might be interesting for our selectors.

Are you serious with any of this?

[BarryGrogan]

ok the ambiguity king finds this post ambiguous ..it doesnt bother me but please clarify all the cough ups that you claim Long made in the first half of the Marsh game against the skunks..
I have it recorded it so I will be able to critique you observations.

I said in an earlier post that I was going to give you a wide berth.. guess I'm a glutton for punishment
but I feel I may have to adhere to it .

?

Didn't this get clarified days ago in another thread?

If you interpreted 'cough it up' to mean 'directly turn it over', then I could see how you would disagree.

But if you interpret it as 'missing targets', and 'lacking precision when in possession' (which is how it was intended) then you'd be completely wrong to disagree with it.

Are you purposely being inflammatory?

[The Fireman]

ok the ambiguity king finds this post ambiguous ..it doesnt bother me but please clarify all the cough ups that you claim Long made in the first half of the Marsh game against the skunks..
I have it recorded it so I will be able to critique you observations.

I said in an earlier post that I was going to give you a wide berth.. guess I'm a glutton for punishment
but I feel I may have to adhere to it .

?

Didn't this get clarified days ago in another thread?

If you interpreted 'cough it up' to mean 'directly turn it over', then I could see how you would disagree.

But if you interpret it as 'missing targets', and 'lacking precision when in possession' (which is how it was intended) then you'd be completely wrong to disagree with it.

Are you purposely being inflammatory?

please point out when he made those indiscretions I saw one. Can you access the game ?
I'm not being inflammatory I am simply trying to understand your grasp on the game.

[Devilhead]

Max King will play Round 1

Close thread

[The Fireman]

did anyone else on here see the Cough ups that Long made in the first half of the Marsh game against the skunks ?
Barry Grogan said he was coughing it up pretty badly ..... I saw one. anyone else ?

[BarryGrogan]

please point out when he made those indiscretions I saw one. Can you access the game ?

Ok - so my post wasn't ambiguous? Glad we've cleared that up.

You instead disagree with me. That's fine. Very different from ambiguity though.



I don't have access to the game, but would like to watch it again as I haven't seen the 2nd half. Although in reality, watching replays of praccy matches is generally for fans far more hardcore than me.

[The Fireman]

please point out when he made those indiscretions I saw one. Can you access the game ?

Ok - so my post wasn't ambiguous? Glad we've cleared that up.

You instead disagree with me. That's fine. Very different from ambiguity though.



I don't have access to the game, but would like to watch it again as I haven't seen the 2nd half. Although in reality, watching replays of praccy matches is generally for fans far more hardcore than me.

now that is a shame.

I watched a replay to try understand your comment about Long. barely hardcore but I have been a mad Saints fan for a very long time.