This Sunday

[SaintJohno]

As the father of a 9 yo daughter and coach of the mighty Tweed Coast Tigers U11girls I can tell you that the future is bright from a skills point of view. I get that right now it's not high scoring or skillful but there are snippits of great play and this will only get better. Remember we're talking about many women who simply haven't played much at all. Sure, they're fit and athletic, but that doesn't equal skill and there will be mistakes of course.
I can asure you the girls I'm coaching are so incredibly excited to be part of the game and have often thrown in other sports for this one. By the time they are eligible to play for the AFLW they will have had 10 years of experience and skill development. So take a deep breath, it will get significantly better.
If you don't rate it, that's fine. There's a lot of people who do and there's an army of quality girls growing into the game. Can't wait to see the next ten years.

[SAINT-LEE]

I'm glad we got our slice and finally have a Women's AFL team! About time!

I'm not blind though, it's the same game played at a different level. I'm okay with that. We can't compare it to elite men's games just as we can't compare a local club to elite men.

It's going to get better and eventually be exciting to watch. At the moment I'm just enjoying seeing the Saints women out there starting the journey!

[The_Dud]

Whilst we didn't get the result we were after, I reckon it was a fantastic day! It had a real festival-like feel and everyone looked like they were having a fun time. There are a few things for the club to improve upon but that's to be expected after their first go at it. I can't wait for next weeks treat with the lads on Thursday then back again when the woman take on the Dee's!

Also, I had myself a good chuckle at some of the knuckle-draggers that have popped up in this thread. Unbelievable but not surprising really. Would hate to be a woman in those households...

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

There’s a difference between not being a fan of the spectacle, which is fine, and thinking it shouldn’t exist and is some kind of evil ‘agenda’ being pushed by the AFL.

Though no one as yet has been able to explain to me what exactly the ‘agenda’ is and why it is so evil.

[The Fireman]

so who are these knuckle draggers ?

who are those that don't want it to exist ?

name names

[The_Dud]

so who are these knuckle draggers ?

who are those that don't want it to exist ?

name names

17.

[takeaway]

Whilst we didn't get the result we were after, I reckon it was a fantastic day! It had a real festival-like feel and everyone looked like they were having a fun time. There are a few things for the club to improve upon but that's to be expected after their first go at it. I can't wait for next weeks treat with the lads on Thursday then back again when the woman take on the Dee's!

Also, I had myself a good chuckle at some of the knuckle-draggers that have popped up in this thread. Unbelievable but not surprising really. Would hate to be a woman in those households...

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

There’s a difference between not being a fan of the spectacle, which is fine, and thinking it shouldn’t exist and is some kind of evil ‘agenda’ being pushed by the AFL.

Though no one as yet has been able to explain to me what exactly the ‘agenda’ is and why it is so evil.

Evil agenda? Where has that come from?

[The Fireman]

so who are these knuckle draggers ?

who are those that don't want it to exist ?

name names

17.

im extending..i'm going for 25 .....so anyway dud care to answer the question ?

PS your nic def doesn't have any sarcasm attached to it

[SaintPav]

Whilst we didn't get the result we were after, I reckon it was a fantastic day! It had a real festival-like feel and everyone looked like they were having a fun time. There are a few things for the club to improve upon but that's to be expected after their first go at it. I can't wait for next weeks treat with the lads on Thursday then back again when the woman take on the Dee's!

Also, I had myself a good chuckle at some of the knuckle-draggers that have popped up in this thread. Unbelievable but not surprising really. Would hate to be a woman in those households...

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

There’s a difference between not being a fan of the spectacle, which is fine, and thinking it shouldn’t exist and is some kind of evil ‘agenda’ being pushed by the AFL.

Though no one as yet has been able to explain to me what exactly the ‘agenda’ is and why it is so evil.

Dud, It's not evil per se; there are benefits to everything (act now, and make excuses later). But it is poitical, idelogical and very very opportunistic.

The "agenda" is that power can distract and divide everyone (divide et impera) with issues around identity as opposed to issues and problems around class and economic opportunity which have been created by policies over the 50 years that really only benefits the 0.1% and have created a massive income inequality and a serious wealth distribution problem.

The "left" has lost its way because most working-class and poor people couldn’t care less about identity politics issues. Which by the way are only really aimed at a very narrow demographic and it usually isn’t blue collar working class women.

It's also virtue signalling to win votes, market share, promote your brand/reputation, whatever.

[The Fireman]

Evil agenda? Where has that come from?

weird aren't they..one suggests that they have little or no interest in something then are accused of having agendas.

the only thing I'm interested about this thread is that I enjoy letting people know how disenterested I am and will do so till the Men's footy starts

[SaintPav]

On pure economics, more elite female sport is akin to the government wanting more woman in the workforce, it doubles the amount of people paying tax and significantly increases consumption.

And don't misconstrue that as me not being 100% supportive and active in helping grow female participation. I'm just highlighting the economic decision making behind the explosion of elite female comps in the past 5 or so years.

I thought the AFLW was losing money hand over fist.

Reputation management/marketing 101: The AFL are using it as a vehicle and a brand extension to promote the parent AFL brand because that’s where all the money is. They want to be known as the good corporate citizen. There’s nothing virtuous about this at all; it’s business.

It’s also political but let’s not go there...

Great athletes by the way but it’s practically a different game so I don’t know what the complaints are all about. It should be judged on its own merits.

It's similar to economic stimulation through immigration whereby the ROI is from the second generation because the first generation required significant financial assistance to settle and establish a foothold. So just like when immigration numbers were doubled around 2005, we are only now seeing the children from the immagrants of that time enter the workforce and provide the government with an ROI. AFLW is a long game in terms of financial independence.

And totally agree on great athletes and being a totally different game and if one does judge it on its own merits it actually is great to watch. I like the slower speed at which the game is played at.

The economics of woke culture.

I like it.

[takeaway]

Evil agenda? Where has that come from?

weird aren't they..one suggests that they have little or no interest in something then are accused of having agendas.

the only thing I'm interested about this thread is that I enjoy letting people know how disenterested I am and will do so till the Men's footy starts

Good. Let's see ... 17 now, ... you should notch up a century.

[The Fireman]

Evil agenda? Where has that come from?

weird aren't they..one suggests that they have little or no interest in something then are accused of having agendas.

the only thing I'm interested about this thread is that I enjoy letting people know how disenterested I am and will do so till the Men's footy starts

Good. Let's see ... 17 now, ... you should notch up a century.

could do , unless of course the Men's footy starts before I reach the target.

[The_Dud]

Whilst we didn't get the result we were after, I reckon it was a fantastic day! It had a real festival-like feel and everyone looked like they were having a fun time. There are a few things for the club to improve upon but that's to be expected after their first go at it. I can't wait for next weeks treat with the lads on Thursday then back again when the woman take on the Dee's!

Also, I had myself a good chuckle at some of the knuckle-draggers that have popped up in this thread. Unbelievable but not surprising really. Would hate to be a woman in those households...

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

There’s a difference between not being a fan of the spectacle, which is fine, and thinking it shouldn’t exist and is some kind of evil ‘agenda’ being pushed by the AFL.

Though no one as yet has been able to explain to me what exactly the ‘agenda’ is and why it is so evil.

Evil agenda? Where has that come from?

Who cares.

You would have to be a sad sack if you didn't support a group of girls who are playing in the red. black and white colours of St Kilda, who train at Moorabbin and are OUR AFLW team.
Go Sainters!

Not a sad sack but the aflw is just rubbish........an agenda being pushed that is just so ordinary to watch

This

[The_Dud]

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[asiu]

thank you

thats my laugh for this arvo


hehehe

[The Fireman]

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great idea

[takeaway]

Whilst we didn't get the result we were after, I reckon it was a fantastic day! It had a real festival-like feel and everyone looked like they were having a fun time. There are a few things for the club to improve upon but that's to be expected after their first go at it. I can't wait for next weeks treat with the lads on Thursday then back again when the woman take on the Dee's!

Also, I had myself a good chuckle at some of the knuckle-draggers that have popped up in this thread. Unbelievable but not surprising really. Would hate to be a woman in those households...

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

There’s a difference between not being a fan of the spectacle, which is fine, and thinking it shouldn’t exist and is some kind of evil ‘agenda’ being pushed by the AFL.

Though no one as yet has been able to explain to me what exactly the ‘agenda’ is and why it is so evil.

Evil agenda? Where has that come from?

Who cares.

You would have to be a sad sack if you didn't support a group of girls who are playing in the red. black and white colours of St Kilda, who train at Moorabbin and are OUR AFLW team.
Go Sainters!

Not a sad sack but the aflw is just rubbish........an agenda being pushed that is just so ordinary to watch

This

Still can't pick up where EVIL agenda comes in.

[takeaway]

Trigger warning in 3... 2... 1...



https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-p ... 9fc549879e

So...

AFLM
AFLW
AFLTGM
AFLTGW
AFLTGP
AFLGNC .... and about 40 others. Plenty of matches to attend !!!

[sunsaint]

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

just wondering did you and your wife go watch your kids play junior sport
or maybe just you - her chain wouldnt reach past the front door...
or neither of you cuz obviously it wasnt up to scratch

think that will invoke a reaction to kick the fireman into hyper-drive numbers

[freely]

The most amusing thing is the idea of hardened longtime Saints supporters insisting that they wouldn't dream of watching anything but the highest quality elite sport! LOL. Good luck with that!

[The_Dud]

Whilst we didn't get the result we were after, I reckon it was a fantastic day! It had a real festival-like feel and everyone looked like they were having a fun time. There are a few things for the club to improve upon but that's to be expected after their first go at it. I can't wait for next weeks treat with the lads on Thursday then back again when the woman take on the Dee's!

Also, I had myself a good chuckle at some of the knuckle-draggers that have popped up in this thread. Unbelievable but not surprising really. Would hate to be a woman in those households...

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

There’s a difference between not being a fan of the spectacle, which is fine, and thinking it shouldn’t exist and is some kind of evil ‘agenda’ being pushed by the AFL.

Though no one as yet has been able to explain to me what exactly the ‘agenda’ is and why it is so evil.

Evil agenda? Where has that come from?

Who cares.

You would have to be a sad sack if you didn't support a group of girls who are playing in the red. black and white colours of St Kilda, who train at Moorabbin and are OUR AFLW team.
Go Sainters!

Not a sad sack but the aflw is just rubbish........an agenda being pushed that is just so ordinary to watch

This

Still can't pick up where EVIL agenda comes in.

‘Evil’ is the negative word I chose to insert because they’re obviously not upset about an ‘agenda’ that is positive in their mind.

[The_Dud]

Whilst we didn't get the result we were after, I reckon it was a fantastic day! It had a real festival-like feel and everyone looked like they were having a fun time. There are a few things for the club to improve upon but that's to be expected after their first go at it. I can't wait for next weeks treat with the lads on Thursday then back again when the woman take on the Dee's!

Also, I had myself a good chuckle at some of the knuckle-draggers that have popped up in this thread. Unbelievable but not surprising really. Would hate to be a woman in those households...

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

There’s a difference between not being a fan of the spectacle, which is fine, and thinking it shouldn’t exist and is some kind of evil ‘agenda’ being pushed by the AFL.

Though no one as yet has been able to explain to me what exactly the ‘agenda’ is and why it is so evil.

Dud, It's not evil per se; there are benefits to everything (act now, and make excuses later). But it is poitical, idelogical and very very opportunistic.

The "agenda" is that power can distract and divide everyone (divide et impera) with issues around identity as opposed to issues and problems around class and economic opportunity which have been created by policies over the 50 years that really only benefits the 0.1% and have created a massive income inequality and a serious wealth distribution problem.

The "left" has lost its way because most working-class and poor people couldn’t care less about identity politics issues. Which by the way are only really aimed at a very narrow demographic and it usually isn’t blue collar working class women.

It's also virtue signalling to win votes, market share, promote your brand/reputation, whatever.

So the AFL isn’t allowed to do the right thing because it happens to also be a good business decision?

[The Fireman]

Maybe some of your "knuckle-draggers" are women? My wife is also a Saints fan and cannot watch AFLW. Maybe some fans are more discerning and wish to watch quality sport, and don't blindly follow a low quality but strongly promoted commercial vehicle just because they wear the red, white and black.

I have also had a good chuckle on here because apparently those that have no interest in watching AFLW are:

emasculated individuals
against the AFLW product
not loyal Saints supporters
knuckle draggers

Quite funny really. I think some of the knuckle dragging is on the other foot. Good luck to those who enjoy watching AFLW, and good luck to the team, but I have better things to do with my time, and will stick to elite high quality sport.

just wondering did you and your wife go watch your kids play junior sport
or maybe just you - her chain wouldnt reach past the front door...
or neither of you cuz obviously it wasnt up to scratch

think that will invoke a reaction to kick the fireman into hyper-drive numbers

hahaha... watching your kids play sport and watching elite level of sport are 2 different planets....you struggle with the difference between Family support and entertainment.

Admittedly I enjoyed watching my kids play sport but for totally diff reasons. Actually I feel a bit silly debating this... any hooo my hyper drive numbers will cease on this thread when the real stuff starts

[The Fireman]

So the AFL isn’t allowed to do the right thing because it happens to also be a good business decision?

The AFL can come up with as many business decisions it likes ..if one of them happened to be watching grass grow i will use my prerogative and give it a wide berth

PS how many am I upto now ?

[The Fireman]

The most amusing thing is the idea of hardened longtime Saints supporters insisting that they wouldn't dream of watching anything but the highest quality elite sport! LOL. Good luck with that!

low blow