Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jan 2020 6:54pm
This discussion contains a lot of tedious to-ing and fro-ing which is to little avail.
As I stated early on in this thread, I am convinced that under Brett Ratten Seb Ross will break-out to elite level this year, it is simply a matter of fine tuning his decision making and disposal skills, and if that turns out to be so then he's a real show for AA selection and the Brownlow. To suggest that Seb Ross is a dud player and unworthy of the B&F awards is an insult to the coaching panel, love 'em or hate 'em, they are in possession of all the facts and stats and know best, irrespective of what we armchair experts may think...
Oh FFS, I have not read anything here that suggests Seb is a DUD PLAYER.
He's a popular player who obviously gives his all, but he currently plays with many limitations that stop many from classing him as elite.
Seb is courageous, solid, committed and hard working, but he doesn't kick goals and he regularly coughs it up when he shouldn't - you can pull out as many stats as you like but that is the way many see it, because that is REALITY.
Seb is obviously fully committed to improving his game, and he is still relatively young, so it is certainly possible that he may become the player that we hope he'll be, but the fact is he is NOT YET THAT GUY.
His cousin, at probably around the same age, suddenly leapt from GOP to one of the best in his team (perhaps the competition), so we wait with baited breath for Seb to do the same - it can and does happen.
The facts are that Seb has been a half decent player in a very ordinary team, but like most on our list over the last decade, he has deficiencies up to his eyeballs.
If Seb suddenly leaps from good to great, every St Kilda supporter will be delighted, and one would imagine that the team's performance will rise accordingly.
Because we are not indulging is some ridiculous fantasy that he is the next Robert Harvey, does not mean we think he's a dud.