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Ben Crocker

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Every chance we draft him tonight.


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No have no need for him. Need midfielders


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Re: Ben Crocker

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We had his brother a few years back. Don't think he played senior football.


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Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?

Or as a rookie

Would make no sense to draft him


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Re: Ben Crocker

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That would be super disappointing if true


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Re: Ben Crocker

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Who is he and what sort of player?


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Re: Ben Crocker

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cwrcyn wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:09pm We had his brother a few years back. Don't think he played senior football.
We have had plenty of Barry's.


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SuperDuper wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?

Or as a rookie

Would make no sense to draft him
Because Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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Junior wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:05pm No have no need for him. Need midfielders
While I agree with you a bit, I think we don't just need midfielders, we need ELITE midfielders. Can we get that at pick 51 or so? Probably not. Get the next need.
If true, and we are after Crocker, our list management obviously see deficiencies in our small forward depth. I didn't think we needed Butler, but that seems to be what they are after.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pm
SuperDuper wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?

Or as a rookie

Would make no sense to draft him
Because Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.
then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide


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Re: Ben Crocker

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SuperDuper wrote:
jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pm
SuperDuper wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?

Or as a rookie

Would make no sense to draft him
Because Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.
then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide
I believe we have to take three players tonight. So couldn’t pick up another DFA without delisting someone.

I just hope we are considering him because he is the best available at our pick, not because someone else wants him.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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kosifantutti wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 8:35pm
SuperDuper wrote:
jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pm
SuperDuper wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?

Or as a rookie

Would make no sense to draft him
Because Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.
then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide
I believe we have to take three players tonight. So couldn’t pick up another DFA without delisting someone.

I just hope we are considering him because he is the best available at our pick, not because someone else wants him.
we only took 2?

plus overall 65 picks is that a low amount compared to past drafts??


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Re: Ben Crocker

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Reckon we will rookie him tomorrow.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:16pm Reckon we will rookie him tomorrow.
Jaxons

seems a low number 65 for the National draft...........

also we only took 2........was that the plan going in


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Re: Ben Crocker

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rookying hin would make sense ... compared to drafting

thought we may look at Partington... same age but seems to be playing better at the lower level?


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Re: Ben Crocker

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jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 6:52pm Every chance we draft him tonight.
Rubbish post. Never a chance.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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saynta wrote: Fri 29 Nov 2019 2:53pm
jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 6:52pm Every chance we draft him tonight.
Rubbish post. Never a chance.
I reckon there was.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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CURLY wrote: Fri 29 Nov 2019 3:28pm
saynta wrote: Fri 29 Nov 2019 2:53pm
jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 6:52pm Every chance we draft him tonight.
Rubbish post. Never a chance.
I reckon there was.
Nah. We needed a young developing ruckman and that's what we got.

Cocker would have been anchored at Sandy.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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saynta wrote: Fri 29 Nov 2019 2:53pm
jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 6:52pm Every chance we draft him tonight.
Rubbish post. Never a chance.
He met with us 3 times and Ratts really liked him.
Was every chance but no guarantees when it comes to draft.
We knew both Carlton and Adelaide like him too.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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jaxons wrote: Fri 29 Nov 2019 5:21pm
saynta wrote: Fri 29 Nov 2019 2:53pm
jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 6:52pm Every chance we draft him tonight.
Rubbish post. Never a chance.
He met with us 3 times and Ratts really liked him.
Was every chance but no guarantees when it comes to draft.
We knew both Carlton and Adelaide like him too.
But Jaxons, did you speak to his parents and were they on board?
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Re: Ben Crocker

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By we, I hope you didn't mean the Adelaide Crows.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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chook23 wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:07pm
kosifantutti wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 8:35pm
SuperDuper wrote:
jaxons wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pm
SuperDuper wrote: Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?

Or as a rookie

Would make no sense to draft him
Because Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.
then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide
I believe we have to take three players tonight. So couldn’t pick up another DFA without delisting someone.

I just hope we are considering him because he is the best available at our pick, not because someone else wants him.
we only took 2?

plus overall 65 picks is that a low amount compared to past drafts??
How could the club upgrade Joyce and include Abbott as a free agent plus 3 picks in the main draft.
We had 36 after the trade period.
Upgrading Joyce was mandatory unless we sent him through the main draft = 37.
Abbott inclusion as a free agent = 38.
2 picks = 40 maximum on senior list.
The only way to have 3 picks would have been to renege on Abbott.
3 picks was only ever a fairy story from the AFL and media.
But with only one rookie upgrade we had to make at least 2 picks.
(3 picks or rookie upgrades required)


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Don't understand the point about the numbers Ace - Joyce's upgrade must have counted as one of the 3 selections required at the national draft, even though rookie upgrades don't get mentioned in the press as selections.


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Re: Ben Crocker

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:shock: hope this doesn't turn out to be a Ben Crocker


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