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I went to Linton during the 80's and yes that was hard yards...but we knew we had a side that competed against the big money clubs..the days when the playing field was uneven.
Yep, the 80's were a special kind of hell.
I'm not the Pelican, I am a concerned supporter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!outside66 wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 2:29pmAre you Chris Pelchen?Nick_BlueNRG wrote: ↑Tue 26 Nov 2019 5:38pm IMHO, what Gags has done has put our club back 5 years. It is a quick fix that may propel us into the 8 in 2020 and 2021, but in the long term will mean we never really challenge for a flag with this list.
At the end of 2022 when it becomes apparent that the list isn't good enough, we will be starting another rebuild from scratch.
it's called competing.
I'm not sure not finishing last in a decade that started with us being a contender is the measure of competitiveness or success we were hoping for at the beginning of 2010.
your shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
I'll be an inmate at the Alfred Hospital for most of January. You and Dave should wander over sometime from the Junction Oval; my shout. Might see if Dr Spaceman can join us.The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:50pmyour shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
lol, hope all is okTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:54pmI'll be an inmate at the Alfred Hospital for most of January. You and Dave should wander over sometime from the Junction Oval; my shout. Might see if Dr Spaceman can join us.The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:50pmyour shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
Like Hannas - I'll be ready for round 1!The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 10:08pmlol, hope all is okTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:54pmI'll be an inmate at the Alfred Hospital for most of January. You and Dave should wander over sometime from the Junction Oval; my shout. Might see if Dr Spaceman can join us.The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:50pmyour shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
its a good argumentIt’s not every year you get an opportunity where a Brad Hill, a Zak Jones, a Dougal Howard, a Dan Butler and a Paddy Ryder say, ‘I want to come and play for your footy club’.
“You don’t want to knock back those opportunities when they come up.”
GreatTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 10:56pmLike Hannas - I'll be ready for round 1!The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 10:08pmlol, hope all is okTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:54pmI'll be an inmate at the Alfred Hospital for most of January. You and Dave should wander over sometime from the Junction Oval; my shout. Might see if Dr Spaceman can join us.The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:50pmyour shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
Fair chance I'll do all of that!sunsaint wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 3:53amGreatTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 10:56pmLike Hannas - I'll be ready for round 1!The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 10:08pmlol, hope all is okTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:54pmI'll be an inmate at the Alfred Hospital for most of January. You and Dave should wander over sometime from the Junction Oval; my shout. Might see if Dr Spaceman can join us.The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:50pmyour shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
So at the end of jan you are going to slip over on the way to the carpark, tearing a hamstring, banging your head causing a concussion, and get food poisoning during the extended stay
Two weeks
Hope you get out quickly I hear the place is full of sick people
All the best Trev.Trev from the Bush wrote:Like Hannas - I'll be ready for round 1!The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 10:08pmlol, hope all is okTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:54pmI'll be an inmate at the Alfred Hospital for most of January. You and Dave should wander over sometime from the Junction Oval; my shout. Might see if Dr Spaceman can join us.The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:50pmyour shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
The JO is the GODr Spaceman wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 11:21amAll the best Trev.Trev from the Bush wrote:Like Hannas - I'll be ready for round 1!The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 10:08pmlol, hope all is okTrev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:54pmI'll be an inmate at the Alfred Hospital for most of January. You and Dave should wander over sometime from the Junction Oval; my shout. Might see if Dr Spaceman can join us.The Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:50pmyour shout or mine ?Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 9:14pm StKilda, from Jezza taking over to to the arrival of the Doc, was a major contributor to my drinking problem!
I’m sure you’ll be ready for round 1, but the JO will never be ready
I did a similar study some years back and found out that the further I lived from my ex-wife, the greater my quality of life!!
I really, really hope you are right because I really, really want you to be. Quite apart from what Gallagher said.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Tue 26 Nov 2019 4:10pm Following article taken from SEN AFL news, an interesting insight into the strategy to make some real improvement to the team, by any measure these are exactly the sort of bold moves the club needed to make to break the shackles of mediocrity both off and on-field that has seen the club go nowhere in the past 8 years...as I have mentioned elsewhere before, it is the very strong ruck division that the Saints will field next year that impress me the most, and will bring huge dividends in 2020.
"St Kilda list boss James Gallagher says the opportunity to bring in several big-name recruits was something the club couldn’t afford to pass up.
The Saints recruited Brad Hill, Paddy Ryder, Dougal Howard, Zak Jones and Dan Butler in the recently completed trade period.
As a result, the club’s earliest pick in this week’s AFL Draft is pick 51.
Gallagher said there was a well thought out strategy to fix certain aspects of their list, which matched up with the attributes of their five new recruits.
“Later in the year, some of the areas we wanted to improve were midfield, run, speed and kicking ability,” he said on SEN Mornings.
“Through his manager, we got an indication that Zak Jones may interested in coming back to Melbourne and this happened late in the year. We wanted to speak to Zak because we thought he can play a really important role for us.
“Dougal (Howard) did come up late in the piece but that had been really clear from our list strategy perspective that we needed to know who our key lockdown defender was going to be for five or six years.
“We’ve tracked him for a quite a while and I’ve been an advocate of his, but he was under contract and it felt highly unlikely. But when the opportunity did come up late, he became a priority for that position.
Gallagher said rather than baulking at paying for several recruits in one trade period, the club wasn’t prepared to let the unique opportunity of signing so many players within a short space of time pass.
“They all sort of bob up at different times and you just need to weigh up whether you’re prepared to pay what you need to pay both from a salary cap and trade perspective.
“If you’re not willing to pay with an early draft pick or a player then that’s OK and you can walk away but we made that decision that if you we bring all these guys in this year then let’s do it.
“It’s not every year you get an opportunity where a Brad Hill, a Zak Jones, a Dougal Howard, a Dan Butler and a Paddy Ryder say, ‘I want to come and play for your footy club’.
“You don’t want to knock back those opportunities when they come up.”
The Saints have also signed former Geelong ruckman Ryan Abbott as a delisted free agent."
I agree, the wheels fell off after Rooey retired. We played some incredibly good footy in 17 and we played some incredibly poor footy. Everything after 2017 has been hard to watch, apart from early 2019 when we still had some spirit and enough senior players on the ground
I just did a study and found that you are both right, it's like a sliding scaleTrue Believer wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 12:48pmI did a similar study some years back and found out that the further I lived from my ex-wife, the greater my quality of life!!
f****** oath.barneyboyz wrote: ↑Fri 29 Nov 2019 7:38amI just did a study and found that you are both right, it's like a sliding scaleTrue Believer wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 12:48pmI did a similar study some years back and found out that the further I lived from my ex-wife, the greater my quality of life!!
Thanks damienc. With my 80th birthday looming I am not at all starry-eyed about my beloved Saints any more, have followed them forever and wherever I have lived and worked both in Oz and PNG - in the early days (1958 to 1963) I used to go out on patrol bringing with me a very large pre-war Crammond shortwave radio transmitter powered by a 12 volt battery that weighed a ton and required at least 3 carriers on my patrols through the heavily forested hinterland inshore from Saidor (Google it, it was a large forwarding air base during the liberation of New Guinea by the US forces in WWII), and on Saturday afternoons I would arrive at a village for the weekend and send a young local shinnying up a tree near the resthouse with the aerial wire so that I could listen to Doug Bigelow and Smokey Dawson on the ABC calling the VFL match of the day, with scores relayed from all the other 5 games. I would record all the scores in an exercise book and then calculate the percentages to work out the ladder. The Saints unfortunately finished 8th in 58 and 59 and didn't do much good until the early 60s.damienc wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 6:23pmI really, really hope you are right because I really, really want you to be. Quite apart from what Gallagher said.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Tue 26 Nov 2019 4:10pm Following article taken from SEN AFL news, an interesting insight into the strategy to make some real improvement to the team, by any measure these are exactly the sort of bold moves the club needed to make to break the shackles of mediocrity both off and on-field that has seen the club go nowhere in the past 8 years...as I have mentioned elsewhere before, it is the very strong ruck division that the Saints will field next year that impress me the most, and will bring huge dividends in 2020.
"St Kilda list boss James Gallagher says the opportunity to bring in several big-name recruits was something the club couldn’t afford to pass up.
The Saints recruited Brad Hill, Paddy Ryder, Dougal Howard, Zak Jones and Dan Butler in the recently completed trade period.
As a result, the club’s earliest pick in this week’s AFL Draft is pick 51.
Gallagher said there was a well thought out strategy to fix certain aspects of their list, which matched up with the attributes of their five new recruits.
“Later in the year, some of the areas we wanted to improve were midfield, run, speed and kicking ability,” he said on SEN Mornings.
“Through his manager, we got an indication that Zak Jones may interested in coming back to Melbourne and this happened late in the year. We wanted to speak to Zak because we thought he can play a really important role for us.
“Dougal (Howard) did come up late in the piece but that had been really clear from our list strategy perspective that we needed to know who our key lockdown defender was going to be for five or six years.
“We’ve tracked him for a quite a while and I’ve been an advocate of his, but he was under contract and it felt highly unlikely. But when the opportunity did come up late, he became a priority for that position.
Gallagher said rather than baulking at paying for several recruits in one trade period, the club wasn’t prepared to let the unique opportunity of signing so many players within a short space of time pass.
“They all sort of bob up at different times and you just need to weigh up whether you’re prepared to pay what you need to pay both from a salary cap and trade perspective.
“If you’re not willing to pay with an early draft pick or a player then that’s OK and you can walk away but we made that decision that if you we bring all these guys in this year then let’s do it.
“It’s not every year you get an opportunity where a Brad Hill, a Zak Jones, a Dougal Howard, a Dan Butler and a Paddy Ryder say, ‘I want to come and play for your footy club’.
“You don’t want to knock back those opportunities when they come up.”
The Saints have also signed former Geelong ruckman Ryan Abbott as a delisted free agent."
