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Re: Paddy to be delisted

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freely wrote: Sun 10 Nov 2019 11:23pm I'd forgotten about Heeney.
Heeney was the best no question.

But he was not available.

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samuraisaint wrote: Sat 09 Nov 2019 3:56pm
Ghost Like wrote: Sat 09 Nov 2019 1:30pm
Secret Kiel wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2019 2:54pm
B.M wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2019 12:43pm Not really

It has been stated that his lack of conditioning is perhaps due to his diabetes? Or laziness, or poor diet??

And was a factor for his mediocre output over his first 3 years.

Some questioned whether his lack of conditioning contributed to him getting KOd so often, or was it just poor technique or bad luck.
Others asked the question about whether diabetes effected his ability to recover from head knocks?

All valid discussion points

Concussions or not, I am certain he was the wrong selection at pick 1.
questions being raised by the misguided are completely acceptable and valid discussion points on a fan forum. A clock is right twice a day.
That would be a broken clock. A working clock could be wrong ever minute of the day.
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Re: Paddy to be delisted

Post: # 1833096Post sendmehomehappy »

Diabetes does not make you more prone to collisions on an AFL field. Pure and simple.
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Mate, poorly controlled diabetes of any type, but especially type 1, could lead to a greater than the average person's rate of concussions by simply walking down an aisle in Woolies.
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For concussion to happen there needs to be a collision with the head, I stand to be corrected on this but I don't think you can sustain concussion from walking down the isle in Woolies.

I stand to be corrected on this also but I don't think diabetes can cause a collision to the head.

An interesting and unverified piece of information, about 6-7 players per team are effected by concussion each season and the rate of concussion in AFL is higher than NFL and since the class action by NFL players in 2011, claims against NFL are rising much faster than predicted. There is currently a class action by former AFL players against the AFL.

The reason Paddy has been delisted is because of concussion issues. Pure and simple.

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Yeah, this thread certainly has reached its endpoint, however:

People with DM 1 frequently get bouts of low sugar. Very common. They are encouraged to carry bags of lollies like jelly beans with them at all times in case they feel a
low sugar attack coming on. Not infrequently, the low sugar attack is a bad one and leads to blackout and collapse. Sometimes they bump their heads and get a concussion too. Statistics and experience predict that this would happen to a type 1 diabetic walking down a shopping aisle more often than a non-diabetic.

PS. I am not a diabetic, thankfully, yet I have slipped on a portion of fresh fruit in said store, bumped my head and ended up with quite a headache.

Hope this clears it up for you SK.


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Yes and no.
What really causes concussion is motion of the head coming to a sudden stop especially if the head stops rotating and the brain keeps on going.
Incomplete recovery from a previous concussion can only make things worse.


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...now it's the endpoint.


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as long as you are now on the same page as the rest of us - then yes


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concussion happens with collision, what other page is there?


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Welcome back WW.

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Post: # 1833170Post Shaggy »

Paddy has been properly managed with his diabetes. It is his concussions which are the problem. We have lost 4 players in the last 2 years due to concussion. Blaming diabetes is disgusting IMO. jamie Cripps played for us with diabetes. He now has 150 games+ games and a flag. Concussion is a very serious problem which affects everyone who plays regardless of draft pick.


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Post: # 1833310Post saintly »

Shaggy wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2019 10:53pm Paddy has been properly managed with his diabetes. It is his concussions which are the problem. We have lost 4 players in the last 2 years due to concussion. Blaming diabetes is disgusting IMO. jamie Cripps played for us with diabetes. He now has 150 games+ games and a flag. Concussion is a very serious problem which affects everyone who plays regardless of draft pick.
I wonder if if the saints are not teaching the players correctly.?


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