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Questions re the existing players

Post: # 1830143Post Waltzing St Kilda »

Five ready made players stepping into the side.

Does Josh Battle go back to the forward line?

Do players like Dunstan and Sinclair struggle for a spot in the side?

Does Nathan Brown get delisted?

Does Jack Newnes get delisted or is he under contract?

Is Rohan Marshall going to be spending time up forward?

Does Butler put pressure on Lonie or Kent?

Is Max King ready to take a key position or is Membrey now the main main up forward?


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Post: # 1830151Post Wayne42 »

Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 8:38pm Five ready made players stepping into the side.

Does Josh Battle go back to the forward line?

Do players like Dunstan and Sinclair struggle for a spot in the side?

Does Nathan Brown get delisted?

Does Jack Newnes get delisted or is he under contract?

Is Rohan Marshall going to be spending time up forward?

Does Butler put pressure on Lonie or Kent?

Is Max King ready to take a key position or is Membrey now the main main up forward?
I hope they keep Brown for 1 more year, they can't yet rely on Austin or Clavarino to play key back if Howard or Carlisle are out injured.


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 8:38pm Five ready made players stepping into the side.

Does Josh Battle go back to the forward line?

Do players like Dunstan and Sinclair struggle for a spot in the side?

Does Nathan Brown get delisted?

Does Jack Newnes get delisted or is he under contract?

Is Rohan Marshall going to be spending time up forward?

Does Butler put pressure on Lonie or Kent?

Is Max King ready to take a key position or is Membrey now the main main up forward?
Good questions, I reckon round 1 if fully fit looks like this.
Not what I’d like to see.

Geary Howard Savage
Clark Carslile Roberton
Hill Hannebery Jones
Billings Marshall Gresham
Lonie King Membrey

Ryder Steele Ross

Int: Wilkie Long Battle Coffield

EMG: Butler Dunstan Webster Paton Hind Newnes Parker

Plenty of competition for small/ medium forwards with Billings & Gresham the locks and a choice of Lonie, Parker, Butler, Long etc

Unknown: Bytel


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Post: # 1830155Post B.M »

Why is our #1 ruckman, and RU best and fairest not playing in the ruck?


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Post: # 1830164Post tonyh »

From as much as we can say at this stage (!), that starting 22 sounds good. Perhaps Butler in for Long. Depending on how fit and ready King and Roberton are, starting 18 could include Battle and Willie.


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 8:38pm
Does Butler put pressure on Lonie or Kent?
I'd have Lonie and Kent playing at Sandringham.

Did no-one watch Lonie's last game against Sydney?

After the game Ratten talked about the poor skills and no doubt Lonie would have been at the forefront of his mind.

Hence the recruitment of Butler.

Small forwards

Gresham
Long
Parker

then Butler

with Lonie and Kent not in the script and not in the best 32.

I was disappointed they did not let Lonie go last year.

The recruitment of Kent for three years is an obvious mistake.


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Post: # 1830171Post desertsaint »

reckon this side looks stronger

Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings Bruce Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Hind Lonie Dunstan Coffield

if we lose Bruce and get Jones we are weaker.


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Post: # 1830172Post B.M »

Lonie will have to play well to hold his spot, but on current form is ahead of all other small forwards (Gresham aside, who is a mid/fwd)

My order on last years output would be
Lonie, Kent, Hind, Parker, Long, Butler, Young
With Gresham rotating

That order could easily change with form


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Post: # 1830176Post Secret Kiel »

B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:36pm Lonie will have to play well to hold his spot, but on current form is ahead of all other small forwards (Gresham aside, who is a mid/fwd)

My order on last years output would be
Lonie, Kent, Hind, Parker, Long, Butler, Young
With Gresham rotating

That order could easily change with form
The thing I like a about Butler coming in is he hopefully creates real mentoring and leadership to our forwards (small & Big) as well as good ole I.P. from Richmond. I suspect he'll do this whether he's putting pressure on our current small forward players for their spot while playing at Sandy or he's made the best 22 it and forcing them to work their way back in. Either way I really think he's a massive asset, and soooooooo cheap.
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desertsaint wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:32pm reckon this side looks stronger

Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings Bruce Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Hind Lonie Dunstan Coffield

if we lose Bruce and get Jones we are weaker.
Um, we've lost Bruce and got Jones


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desertsaint wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:32pm reckon this side looks stronger

Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings Bruce Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Hind Lonie Dunstan Coffield

if we lose Bruce and get Jones we are weaker.
Bruce?

I think that horse has well and truly bolted, dude.


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B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:36pm Lonie will have to play well to hold his spot, but on current form is ahead of all other small forwards (Gresham aside, who is a mid/fwd)

My order on last years output would be
Lonie, Kent, Hind, Parker, Long, Butler, Young
With Gresham rotating

That order could easily change with form
Billings and Gresham rotating.

Long > > > Parker > Hind > Butler >>>>>>>>>> Lonie, Young, Kent.

Ben Long will be an absolute star.

Potentially elite.

Definitely not enough love on here for him at this stage.

I think anyone who has Lonie ahead of Long is channeling Forest Gump!


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barks4eva wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:51pm
B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:36pm Lonie will have to play well to hold his spot, but on current form is ahead of all other small forwards (Gresham aside, who is a mid/fwd)

My order on last years output would be
Lonie, Kent, Hind, Parker, Long, Butler, Young
With Gresham rotating

That order could easily change with form


Billings and Gresham rotating.

Long > > > Parker > Hind > Butler >>>>>>>>>> Lonie, Young, Kent.

Ben Long will be an absolute star.

Potentially elite.

Definitely not enough love on here for him at this stage.

I think anyone who has Lonie ahead of Long is channeling Forest Gump!

Fully fit Parker> Hind> Butler> Long> Lonie>Kent> Young


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Post: # 1830210Post desertsaint »

SaintPav wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:46pm
desertsaint wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:32pm reckon this side looks stronger

Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings Bruce Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Hind Lonie Dunstan Coffield

if we lose Bruce and get Jones we are weaker.
Bruce?

I think that horse has well and truly bolted, dude.
yes, never post before reading the days deals.
oh well. now we just need to uncover a champion chf and all will be forgiven.

So i guess it's now:
Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings ??? Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Jones Lonie Dunstan Coffield


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B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:04pm Why is our #1 ruckman, and RU best and fairest not playing in the ruck?
I wouldn’t have recruited Ryder full stop.

Bruce gone Ryder recruited, Ryder can’t play Key Forward so it’s my assumption he will play ruck and Marshall forward as much as I disagree with it.


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desertsaint wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:32pm reckon this side looks stronger

Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings Bruce Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Hind Lonie Dunstan Coffield

if we lose Bruce and get Jones we are weaker.
Interested to see if Howard, Carslile, Wilkie & Battle can play in the same backline.

Maybe a bit tall & slow.

Maybe Howard, Carslile or Battle play forward.


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Post: # 1830228Post samuraisaint »

desertsaint wrote: Thu 17 Oct 2019 2:51am
SaintPav wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:46pm
desertsaint wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:32pm reckon this side looks stronger

Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings Bruce Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Hind Lonie Dunstan Coffield

if we lose Bruce and get Jones we are weaker.
Bruce?

I think that horse has well and truly bolted, dude.
yes, never post before reading the days deals.
oh well. now we just need to uncover a champion chf and all will be forgiven.

So i guess it's now:
Geary Howard Savage
Battle Carlisle Wilkie
Hill Hannebery Clark
Billings ??? Gresham
Long King Membrey

Marshall Steele Ross

Int: Jones Lonie Dunstan Coffield
Ryder will rest at CHF with Marshall rotating through without Bruce there anymore.


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 8:38pm Five ready made players stepping into the side.

Does Josh Battle go back to the forward line?

Do players like Dunstan and Sinclair struggle for a spot in the side?

Does Nathan Brown get delisted?

Does Jack Newnes get delisted or is he under contract?

Is Rohan Marshall going to be spending time up forward?

Does Butler put pressure on Lonie or Kent?

Is Max King ready to take a key position or is Membrey now the main main up forward?
Great post!

Forward
Dunstan no, Sinclair yes
Delisted
Moves as a free agent (is there another period?) otherwise DFA
Yes, a little
Yes, Lonie more. Kent third
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Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 8:54pm
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 8:38pm Five ready made players stepping into the side.

Does Josh Battle go back to the forward line?

Do players like Dunstan and Sinclair struggle for a spot in the side?

Does Nathan Brown get delisted?

Does Jack Newnes get delisted or is he under contract?

Is Rohan Marshall going to be spending time up forward?

Does Butler put pressure on Lonie or Kent?

Is Max King ready to take a key position or is Membrey now the main main up forward?
Good questions, I reckon round 1 if fully fit looks like this.
Not what I’d like to see.

Geary Howard Savage
Clark Carslile Roberton
Hill Hannebery Jones
Billings Marshall Gresham
Lonie King Membrey

Ryder Steele Ross

Int: Wilkie Long Battle Coffield

EMG: Butler Dunstan Webster Paton Hind Newnes Parker

Plenty of competition for small/ medium forwards with Billings & Gresham the locks and a choice of Lonie, Parker, Butler, Long etc

Unknown: Bytel
You forgot the guy we will get with pick 100.
Will be an absolute superstar

I like that team but prefer Hind's use of speed to Long's chaos.
Savage would be on the bench with Wilkie in the back pocket.


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barks4eva wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:51pm
B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:36pm Lonie will have to play well to hold his spot, but on current form is ahead of all other small forwards (Gresham aside, who is a mid/fwd)

My order on last years output would be
Lonie, Kent, Hind, Parker, Long, Butler, Young
With Gresham rotating

That order could easily change with form
Billings and Gresham rotating.

Long > > > Parker > Hind > Butler >>>>>>>>>> Lonie, Young, Kent.

Ben Long will be an absolute star.

Potentially elite.

Definitely not enough love on here for him at this stage.

I think anyone who has Lonie ahead of Long is channeling Forest Gump!
HEY HEY!!!!!
Wait a minute... I'm a massive B Long fan, and have argued giving him captaincy would improve his consistency and bring the whole club a bit of the so-called X-factor and some grit.

Bearing in mind.... I get caned whenever I point out how f88kin' good that kid will be as a footballer. I'd have him on a wing: Hill on one wing, Long or Clark on the other.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 17 Oct 2019 4:39am
B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:04pm Why is our #1 ruckman, and RU best and fairest not playing in the ruck?
I wouldn’t have recruited Ryder full stop.

Bruce gone Ryder recruited, Ryder can’t play Key Forward so it’s my assumption he will play ruck and Marshall forward as much as I disagree with it.
Disagree. Some of Ryder's forward craft is top shelf.


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Post: # 1830244Post Yorkeys »

Maybe the immediate question for the retained is how do we organize a farewell/farewells for the dearly traded/recently beloved. We don't just trade and abandon do we: "leave your locker key at reception" (?) The chaps on pending extensions and one year-to-go contracts need reassuring hugs and J. Newnes a nice card about how to be grateful for little things. At the function BR can say who is in the running for CHF to help out super coaches - Battle has to be back in the frame with all of Austin, Howard and Carslisle available doesn't he; but maybe not.


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groupie1 wrote: Thu 17 Oct 2019 8:08am
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 17 Oct 2019 4:39am
B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:04pm Why is our #1 ruckman, and RU best and fairest not playing in the ruck?
I wouldn’t have recruited Ryder full stop.

Bruce gone Ryder recruited, Ryder can’t play Key Forward so it’s my assumption he will play ruck and Marshall forward as much as I disagree with it.
Disagree. Some of Ryder's forward craft is top shelf.
Maybe 5 years ago, if you watched him this year you would not be making the above comment in my opinion.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 17 Oct 2019 9:51am
groupie1 wrote: Thu 17 Oct 2019 8:08am
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 17 Oct 2019 4:39am
B.M wrote: Wed 16 Oct 2019 9:04pm Why is our #1 ruckman, and RU best and fairest not playing in the ruck?
I wouldn’t have recruited Ryder full stop.

Bruce gone Ryder recruited, Ryder can’t play Key Forward so it’s my assumption he will play ruck and Marshall forward as much as I disagree with it.
Disagree. Some of Ryder's forward craft is top shelf.
Maybe 5 years ago, if you watched him this year you would not be making the above comment in my opinion.
You are right. But I don't think he was very happy at the Power.

If you listened to his radio interview, after being traded to the Saints, he sounded very positive and upbeat and happy to be playing for St Kilda and with his cousin Brad Hill.

Of course you might expect him to sound like that moving to a new club.

But it might give Paddy a new lease of life. Let's hope so. You don't make AA if you're a dud.


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more pressure now to make the 1's ... pressure makes diamonds


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