Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829343Post Saintmatt »

Trade Radio reporting that Zac Smith from Cats to GCS for their pick 58. Pick 58 to then go to St K for Jack Steven.

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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829344Post derby Street »

That is ordinary - please tell me that we aren't also paying a portion of his salary


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829346Post longtimesaint »

Why don’t we tell Geelong to shove their pick 58?


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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longtimesaint wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 1:02pm Why don’t we tell Geelong to shove their pick 58?
Precisely. I'd rather pay Jack to live in Lorne next year on full pay than take that sh!t pick AND have to pay some of his salary.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Saintmatt wrote:
longtimesaint wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 1:02pm Why don’t we tell Geelong to shove their pick 58?
Precisely. I'd rather pay Jack to live in Lorne next year on full pay than take that sh!t pick AND have to pay some of his salary.
I agree with this however I think we'll have to suck it up. Definitely should not pay his salary though.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Saintmatt wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 1:03pm
longtimesaint wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 1:02pm Why don’t we tell Geelong to shove their pick 58?
Precisely. I'd rather pay Jack to live in Lorne next year on full pay than take that sh!t pick AND have to pay some of his salary.
Bloody insult - Geelong are valuing Stuv the same as Zac Smith. Give me a break. Walk away from it Saints.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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derby Street wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 12:58pm That is ordinary - please tell me that we aren't also paying a portion of his salary
Early word on Trade radio is that we take the lower pick and avoid paying Salary next year. We get a higher pick, we pay salary.

Hope there still might be other picks coming our way!


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829354Post Stephen Theodore »

Wow, I didn’t think we’d get a first rounder, but 58 😳


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Reported deal is that 58 will go to Freo along with a future seconder and pick 10 from Port for Hill. We get to keep our future first. If that is the deal it softens the deal a bit with Stuv.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Thanks Jack :roll:


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829357Post saint-stu »

We didn't have much leverage in this. Just have to cop it. It's just that Jack hadn't come out and said he wants to move this year, so I was sort of hoping he might decide to stay.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829359Post DJ Higgins »

58 is to make up part of the deal. I have too much faith in gubby to do a straight swap and salary for jack steven. It may end up that we only get pick 58 but as mentioned before it may be as part of another trade to get hill and save our first rounder next year


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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derby Street wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 12:58pm That is ordinary - please tell me that we aren't also paying a portion of his salary
Oh yes we will.
I hope that there is more than pick 58 coming our way, otherwise I will spew.
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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829361Post Stephen Theodore »

st.byron wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 1:27pm Reported deal is that 58 will go to Freo along with a future seconder and pick 10 from Port for Hill. We get to keep our future first. If that is the deal it softens the deal a bit with Stuv.
Hopefully that is correct


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829362Post Bernard Shakey »

Wait for the big picture to evolve.
Individual trades are irrelevant!


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829363Post longtimesaint »

This is robbery as Steven will probably return to being a gun player after a full pre season.
We have to watch him tear it up for those pr***s


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829364Post spert »

What if pick 58 turns out to be a top player?


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Bernard Shakey wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 1:37pm Wait for the big picture to evolve.
Individual trades are irrelevant!
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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Pick 58 for a four times best and fairest.

You would have to be f****** kidding.

Only trouble is that appears to be for real.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

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Bernard Shakey wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 1:37pm Wait for the big picture to evolve.
Individual trades are irrelevant!
Yep, this is it. Understand the outrage if 58 for Stuv is considered in isolation, but context and it's part in any other deals are what's important. If Stuv really wants to go then better he does. If we get 58 and pass it on to Freo and it means we keep next year's first rounder, then ok. Move on.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829374Post B.M »

Why should we have to ‘cop it’?

He’s a contracted player

58 for a four time b&f is a disgrace!


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829375Post fugazi »

BM you have obviously heard the same rumours re JS.
The only explanation for allowing this trade to go thru is guilt.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829376Post Mr Magic »

Saints are obviously happy for him to go and be off our books.
Especially if whatever we get for him assists us in achieving our goals in the Trade Period.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829377Post Brunswicksainter »

If this is all there is to this deal than this is an absolute disgrace.


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Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

Post: # 1829378Post st.byron »

fugazi wrote: Tue 15 Oct 2019 2:15pm BM you have obviously heard the same rumours re JS.
The only explanation for allowing this trade to go thru is guilt.
Can you guys please enlighten those of us who don’t know what you’re talking about?


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