We Could Emerge The Winner In Trade 2019

[damienc]

This trade period is starting to get a little exciting if you are a Saints fan.

Hill, Jones, Ryder and now Howard. All four have nominated St Kilda as their club of choice.

Hill and Jones have great midfield speed which we desperately need. Contrary to popular opinion here, Ryder will be a big help to Marshall.

And now Howard as a key defender who can possibly swing into attack. This guy is a seriously good player and it's fantastic that he's coming to us.

Of course, now comes the hard part. We have little currency to land these guys. We need good picks in exchange for Bruce and Steven who both say they want to move.

Maybe we might have to trade a player or two.

But the club can't be accused of sitting on its hands.

We need to turn things around and these are very good steps in the right direction in my view.

The list needed freshening. We needed to inject more speed, and find a ruckman and key defender. And we did exactly that.

Ryder clearly isn't to everyone's liking but he was AA and I think he will help Marshall get better.

Now it's a case of watch this space to see how it gets done. Woohoo bring it on !

[st.byron]

Where did you see that Howard has nominated us? I haven’t seen that and have been following pretty closely.

[takeaway]

We now will have to trade a player or 2. We had Hill, Jones & Ryder covered with picks only if we could not trade any out, but the addition of Howard adds more pressure to get some picks back in or trade players. Still think we should hold firm on Bruce & Steven though at this stage.

[Simon Templar]

Great stuff....do it!!!

[st.byron]

We now will have to trade a player or 2. We had Hill, Jones & Ryder covered with picks only if we could not trade any out, but the addition of Howard adds more pressure to get some picks back in or trade players. Still think we should hold firm on Bruce & Steven though at this stage.

Acres mentioned in Mitch Cleary / Riley Beveridge trade wrap this arvo as a possible trade.

[SaintPav]

Mitch/Riley

Wankers

[Stephen Theodore]

This trade period is starting to get a little exciting if you are a Saints fan.

Hill, Jones, Ryder and now Howard. All four have nominated St Kilda as their club of choice.

Hill and Jones have great midfield speed which we desperately need. Contrary to popular opinion here, Ryder will be a big help to Marshall.

And now Howard as a key defender who can possibly swing into attack. This guy is a seriously good player and it's fantastic that he's coming to us.

Of course, now comes the hard part. We have little currency to land these guys. We need good picks in exchange for Bruce and Steven who both say they want to move.

Maybe we might have to trade a player or two.

But the club can't be accused of sitting on its hands.

We need to turn things around and these are very good steps in the right direction in my view.

The list needed freshening. We needed to inject more speed, and find a ruckman and key defender. And we did exactly that.

Ryder clearly isn't to everyone's liking but he was AA and I think he will help Marshall get better.

Now it's a case of watch this space to see how it gets done. Woohoo bring it on !

Where did you obtain the info regards Howard nominating us?

[st.byron]

Mitch/Riley

Wankers

Why? They seem pretty switched on to me. Haven’t agreed with them on their take on Stuv, but apart from that they seem to be decent blokes.

[st.byron]

This trade period is starting to get a little exciting if you are a Saints fan.

Hill, Jones, Ryder and now Howard. All four have nominated St Kilda as their club of choice.

Hill and Jones have great midfield speed which we desperately need. Contrary to popular opinion here, Ryder will be a big help to Marshall.

And now Howard as a key defender who can possibly swing into attack. This guy is a seriously good player and it's fantastic that he's coming to us.

Of course, now comes the hard part. We have little currency to land these guys. We need good picks in exchange for Bruce and Steven who both say they want to move.

Maybe we might have to trade a player or two.

But the club can't be accused of sitting on its hands.

We need to turn things around and these are very good steps in the right direction in my view.

The list needed freshening. We needed to inject more speed, and find a ruckman and key defender. And we did exactly that.

Ryder clearly isn't to everyone's liking but he was AA and I think he will help Marshall get better.

Now it's a case of watch this space to see how it gets done. Woohoo bring it on !

Where did you obtain the info regards Howard nominating us?

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-09/ ... ests-trade

[SaintPav]

Mitch/Riley

Wankers

Why? They seem pretty switched on to me. Haven’t agreed with them on their take on Stuv, but apart from that they seem to be decent blokes.

I didn't say they were indecent or bad. It comes with the territory which is AFL tabloid media. They report rumor, innuendo and the headlines

Heard Mitch Clark take a call from a call from a Saints fan the other night on Bruce. He didn't answer the callers question and just regurgitated what Terry Wallace said that we just had to let Bruce go to the Bulldogs. Unlike you, I wasn't impressed.

[B.M]

Exactly how are we getting all of these deals done?

Hill - Pick 6
Jones - Pick for Steven
Howard - Pick for Bruce
Ryder - Late Pick?
Butler - ??
Gray - ??

Players that could be traded out
Acres, Dunstan,

At this stage our first pick in the draft will be pick 90 and we have to take three.

We could upgrade Doulton?
Is Wilkie already upgraded?

Brown, Austin, Clavarino, Carlisle, Marsh, Howard, Battle, Joyce
8 key defenders on the list... although Battle can play fwd.

[chook23]

This trade period is starting to get a little exciting if you are a Saints fan.

Hill, Jones, Ryder and now Howard. All four have nominated St Kilda as their club of choice.

Hill and Jones have great midfield speed which we desperately need. Contrary to popular opinion here, Ryder will be a big help to Marshall.

And now Howard as a key defender who can possibly swing into attack. This guy is a seriously good player and it's fantastic that he's coming to us.

Of course, now comes the hard part. We have little currency to land these guys. We need good picks in exchange for Bruce and Steven who both say they want to move.

Maybe we might have to trade a player or two.

But the club can't be accused of sitting on its hands.

We need to turn things around and these are very good steps in the right direction in my view.

The list needed freshening. We needed to inject more speed, and find a ruckman and key defender. And we did exactly that.

Ryder clearly isn't to everyone's liking but he was AA and I think he will help Marshall get better.

Now it's a case of watch this space to see how it gets done. Woohoo bring it on !

Where did you obtain the info regards Howard nominating us?

afl.com UNDERSTANDS he has requested

No direct comments by Howard

[st.byron]

Exactly how are we getting all of these deals done?

Hill - Pick 6
Jones - Pick for Steven
Howard - Pick for Bruce
Ryder - Late Pick?
Butler - ??
Gray - ??

Players that could be traded out
Acres, Dunstan,

At this stage our first pick in the draft will be pick 90 and we have to take three.

We could upgrade Doulton?
Is Wilkie already upgraded?

Brown, Austin, Clavarino, Carlisle, Marsh, Howard, Battle, Joyce
8 key defenders on the list... although Battle can play fwd.

If Howard has indeed chosen us, perhaps it's also in the wind that Jake might be up for trade. He would have some currency. I also reckon if our recruiting guys are going after Butler, Gray will not be a goer. One or the other. It's also possible, if we do recruit a small forward like Butler, that one of our existing small forwards will be up for trade.

Perhaps Acres, Bruce, Lonie and Carlisle all up for trade. Total hypothetical I know but it would be a significant shift in the profile of the list if those guys went out along with the delisted players and in came Hill, Jones, Ryder, Howard and Butler.
Forgot to mention Newnes. He could also be on the way out if anyone wants him. Perhaps a third rounder as compo. Can't see him attracting a second rounder.

[st.byron]

Howard's choice now also reported in The Age :

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/por ... 52z7m.html

[oboe]

I'd keep Acres and Lonie. Bruce wants to leave it seems, and Carlisle has been nothing but trouble. Lonie was very good before his knee injury. Our issue has been getting the ball in quickly and accurately into the forward line. Hill will certainly help, but even Jones might help if he can win enough one on ones. Howard if we can get him will possibly solve the problem at full back. My line up for next year down the guts would be from FB, Howard, Battle, Acres, King, and a rotating FF e.g. Membrey, or Marshall. If we can get the ball into 50 or 60 metres into goal (Gresham, and Billings as half forward flankers), with King at CHF), we can create numerous opportunities for scores.

[degruch]

Certainly seems like a good get, there were big wraps on him for most of the season...but with 3 years still to play out on his contract Port would be in their rights to play a bit of hardball. Hill/Jones should be priorities, and our key defensive positions at least solidly covered for now, I wonder if this is the least likely trade to go through? I expect it will be a late one.

[st.byron]

Certainly seems like a good get, there were big wraps on him for most of the season...but with 3 years still to play out on his contract Port would be in their rights to play a bit of hardball. Hill/Jones should be priorities, and our key defensive positions at least solidly covered for now, I wonder if this is the least likely trade to go through? I expect it will be a late one.

Would be a good get though. Carlisle and Brown both well past their best I reckon.

[degruch]

Certainly seems like a good get, there were big wraps on him for most of the season...but with 3 years still to play out on his contract Port would be in their rights to play a bit of hardball. Hill/Jones should be priorities, and our key defensive positions at least solidly covered for now, I wonder if this is the least likely trade to go through? I expect it will be a late one.

Would be a good get though. Carlisle and Brown both well past their best I reckon.

If not right now, they soon will be...I'm not sure Austin isn't a bust too, who would know? That leaves Clav. Geez we need to focus on some pace and classy ball use pronto though.

[Toy Saint]

I'm secretly hoping we keep Acres & Dunstan. Reckon both of these guys can make a strong contribution in a good team

[st.byron]

Certainly seems like a good get, there were big wraps on him for most of the season...but with 3 years still to play out on his contract Port would be in their rights to play a bit of hardball. Hill/Jones should be priorities, and our key defensive positions at least solidly covered for now, I wonder if this is the least likely trade to go through? I expect it will be a late one.

Would be a good get though. Carlisle and Brown both well past their best I reckon.

If not right now, they soon will be...I'm not sure Austin isn't a bust too, who would know? That leaves Clav. Geez we need to focus on some pace and classy ball use pronto though.

Maybe longer term Ratts et al are picturing Ben King and Howard as KP defenders. Battle could go back to the forward line. Max King, Membrey, Battle.

[B.M]

If Dunstan and Acres were going to be any good, they would have been better than they are by now.

Blake - Poor decision maker, average disposal, doesn’t defend and is a bit lazy and floats in and out of games. People have this fascination with his size, but reality is that he’s not fierce at the contest and plays as a link, not inside. He’s the opposite to Steele in every way.

Luke - Just not a good athlete, poor running ability and is a poor kick. He has a crack, is tough and is ok inside. Can’t spread offensively or defensively.

[Jacks Back]

If Dunstan and Acres were going to be any good, they would have been better than they are by now.

Blake - Poor decision maker, average disposal, doesn’t defend and is a bit lazy and floats in and out of games. People have this fascination with his size, but reality is that he’s not fierce at the contest and plays as a link, not inside. He’s the opposite to Steele in every way.

Luke - Just not a good athlete, poor running ability and is a poor kick. He has a crack, is tough and is ok inside. Can’t spread offensively or defensively.

Way to go devaluing their worth.

[B.M]

I think these opinions of both are well understood by opposition clubs, they don’t need me to tell them.

Both players have positive attributes but also limitations that mean they are C Grade players

They’ve had 5 years in the system ffs!

[Leo.J]

I’d be suprised if Carlisle gets traded...one of the better ball users we have.

I reckon Jake offers more to us at the club than on the trade table.

[To the top]

It continues to amaze me that the players whose abilities have seen St Kilda languish post Lyon escape appraisal but the likes of Carlisle, Acres and Dunstan are the scape goats