LOL...poor old goat, "give to my old club for nothing, go on. I know we asked, and he's the 11th highest output fwd in the comp and proven capable of better, but we really, really need another big key position player". Low first round is fair market value, and yes, we can easily fit him at FF next year, with Hill, Jones, Hanna, Hunter and Bytel slamming the ball down his throat, I'm sure he'd love it.SaintPav wrote: ↑Mon 07 Oct 2019 5:58pm ”Just let him go...just let him go”.
Yeah, to your beloved Bulldogs, Wallet.
Flog...
https://media.whooshkaa.com/show/9121/e ... 442920.mp3
Trade Period Thread
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- degruch
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8948
- Joined: Mon 19 May 2008 4:29pm
- Location: Croydonia
- Has thanked: 146 times
- Been thanked: 237 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30098
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1235 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
No he actually 100% backs up what I stated. I said what two low first rounders are worthWayne42 wrote: ↑Mon 07 Oct 2019 7:49pmAdelaide gave up 2 x first rounders for Gibbs, who is now a SANFL player. That deal knocks your theory into Top Hat.saintsRrising wrote: ↑Mon 07 Oct 2019 5:05pmNot sure who your rating source is, but I would argue with that as only superstars of the competition are worth 2 first rounders (or at least ones as low as pick 6 and our 2020 first).
Hill is a very good player, but superstar he is not. He is also not AA etc.
Gibbs was never a superstar at AFL Level. Good player yes, but he was never in that top tier of players in the AFL.
The Crows overpaid for a player of his abilities. That they overpaid is part of the reason why they are now where they are at list wise.
Gibbs was not worth the trade price paid for him.
Absolutely shocking trading by the Crows.
- Carlton received pick Nos.10, 16, and 73 in the 2017 draft and the Crows' 2018 second-round pick.
- Adelaide received Gibbs, No.77 and Carlton's 2018 second-round and third-round picks.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1318
- Joined: Mon 17 Oct 2011 7:19pm
- Has thanked: 613 times
- Been thanked: 413 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Strictly speaking you are correct. However, you're being tough on B Hill. He was very unlucky not to be picked in either squad or final team. He had a great season for Freo and was one of the very best for the year. He is an A grader no doubt about it. Having him play for the Saints will make us a much better team.st.byron wrote: ↑Mon 07 Oct 2019 5:26pmWasn't in the AA squad.damienc wrote: ↑Mon 07 Oct 2019 5:11pmWent pretty close to AA this year.saintsRrising wrote: ↑Mon 07 Oct 2019 5:05pmNot sure who your rating source is, but I would argue with that as only superstars of the competition are worth 2 first rounders (or at least ones as low as pick 6 and our 2020 first).
Hill is a very good player, but superstar he is not. He is also not AA etc.
Personally, I think Fremantle will want pick 6 and a player for Hill and 26. We can't give them any picks. We don't have any.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3638
- Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
- Location: Tassie
- Has thanked: 492 times
- Been thanked: 316 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Could we enter the Papley trade discussion?
If we were able to get pick 12 from the Bulldogs for Bruce and Lonie (apparently they were enquiring about one of our small forwards) could we then package up 12 and a third round pick for Papley and Jones?
Scott Lucas said on Trade Radio that Carlton was still his preferred option, but they were both aware that anything could happen in trade week.
If we were able to get pick 12 from the Bulldogs for Bruce and Lonie (apparently they were enquiring about one of our small forwards) could we then package up 12 and a third round pick for Papley and Jones?
Scott Lucas said on Trade Radio that Carlton was still his preferred option, but they were both aware that anything could happen in trade week.
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19160
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2031 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Highly doubt the Bulldogs will go for this but if Lonie is such a terrible player and a squib, why would the Bulldogs offer us pick 12 for him as part of a swap with Bruce? It doesn't make any sense.
You can't have it both ways!
You can't have it both ways!
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3638
- Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
- Location: Tassie
- Has thanked: 492 times
- Been thanked: 316 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
I don’t want it both ways, he’d make a great set of steak knives on the Bruce deal and then I as you say I wouldn’t have to watch him squib in a Saints jumper.
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19160
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2031 times
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 1968
- Joined: Thu 05 Aug 2004 9:29am
- Has thanked: 3 times
- Been thanked: 137 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
what a crap comment, you can question Lonie's ability, but a squib he is not
- barneyboyz
- Club Player
- Posts: 1133
- Joined: Thu 08 Mar 2007 10:13pm
- Has thanked: 177 times
- Been thanked: 123 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
In my opinion it's becoming quite difficult to question his ability too, actually, he's got a few mates with higher wages that should have a good hard look at how he goes about itBringBackMadDog wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2019 2:47pmwhat a crap comment, you can question Lonie's ability, but a squib he is not
St. Kilda Football Club. Going strong, since 1960
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1223
- Joined: Fri 07 May 2010 3:00pm
- Has thanked: 204 times
- Been thanked: 307 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
If he was 2 foot taller he would be our buddy.barneyboyz wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2019 4:04pmIn my opinion it's becoming quite difficult to question his ability too, actually, he's got a few mates with higher wages that should have a good hard look at how he goes about itBringBackMadDog wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2019 2:47pmwhat a crap comment, you can question Lonie's ability, but a squib he is not
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Sun 22 May 2005 11:42pm
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 90 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Sweet Lord I just saw that the trade period is open for another 8 days. How excruciating. We all know that 90% of the action happens in the last 24 hours. Given that the clubs have probably been preparing for this for months, couldn't it be limited a 3 days?
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Bit excruciating isn't it.....another day passes and ........nothing happens. Hill, Ryder, Jones, Howard, Steven, Bruce......nothing happened.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2295
- Joined: Sun 27 Jan 2008 9:05am
- Has thanked: 768 times
- Been thanked: 207 times
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3266
- Joined: Fri 16 Mar 2007 4:05pm
- Been thanked: 390 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Publicity
It keeps the AFL name in the media
Of more importance is that the Sheffield Shield season gets underway on Thursday
And the 20 Over side was named today
It keeps the AFL name in the media
Of more importance is that the Sheffield Shield season gets underway on Thursday
And the 20 Over side was named today
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1862
- Joined: Thu 01 May 2008 6:30pm
- Location: Mentone
- Has thanked: 18 times
- Been thanked: 265 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Apparently in 2017 the first trade wasn’t done till the Thursday afternoon
One year will be our year
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3638
- Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
- Location: Tassie
- Has thanked: 492 times
- Been thanked: 316 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Seriously, I’ve got to get me some of those rose coloured glasses you all wear.Rubyjo wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2019 4:23pmIf he was 2 foot taller he would be our buddy.barneyboyz wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2019 4:04pmIn my opinion it's becoming quite difficult to question his ability too, actually, he's got a few mates with higher wages that should have a good hard look at how he goes about itBringBackMadDog wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2019 2:47pmwhat a crap comment, you can question Lonie's ability, but a squib he is not
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Yep it's become a full on media event in the footy world. Trade Radio 12 hours day, live blogs reporting every detail. And in the midst of it all, plenty of advertising. I was listening to Trade Radio yesterday and there were heaps of ads for tradies' stuff. Points to the demographic listening. Maybe there's heaps of guys working away at their trade listening in.To the top wrote: ↑Tue 08 Oct 2019 6:13pm Publicity
It keeps the AFL name in the media
Of more importance is that the Sheffield Shield season gets underway on Thursday
And the 20 Over side was named today
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
WTF is it with the blokes on the AFL trade wrap?
Cleary, Riley and today Damien Barratt all saying the following are fair deals :
Steven for a pick in the 50's.
Bruce for pick 32.
Hill for 6 straight up.
F*** off on all counts.
Cleary, Riley and today Damien Barratt all saying the following are fair deals :
Steven for a pick in the 50's.
Bruce for pick 32.
Hill for 6 straight up.
F*** off on all counts.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2295
- Joined: Sun 27 Jan 2008 9:05am
- Has thanked: 768 times
- Been thanked: 207 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
On AFL app it appears west coast will give Geelong 2 first round picks and 33 to Geelong for Kelly. That pick 33 will go to us for Steven. Sounds good to me
- bigred
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11463
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 7:39am
- Has thanked: 25 times
- Been thanked: 609 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Its not enough.
"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6092
- Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
- Has thanked: 337 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
No. 33 will include a part payment of his salary. It's not a fair deal but think of it as long service leave for Jack, $600k saved, Jones in and a clean slate for all.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
If the deal between Geelong and WCE for Kelly goes ahead as reported and Kelly is locked away at WCE, I wonder if that will change the landscape in the deal for Hill. Perhaps Freo would be willing to take a first rounder in the teens plus a player. GWS have 12 and 18. Maybe they'd be willing to swap 12 and 18 for 6. We could send 12 plus a player to Freo and keep 18. Maybe maybe maybe maybe. Just hurry up and get the trade period done.
- Spinner
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8502
- Joined: Sat 02 Dec 2006 3:40pm
- Location: Victoria
- Has thanked: 185 times
- Been thanked: 133 times
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3856
- Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 2:41pm
- Has thanked: 419 times
- Been thanked: 237 times
Re: Trade Period Thread
Good article by Jake Niall on our trading ....
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sai ... 52ytz.html
“While Essendon and Carlton's trade manoeuvres have been under the most intense spotlight, due in part to the size of those clubs and some of the names involved, the club that shapes as the most frenetic in this trade period is St Kilda.
The Saints have set themselves an ambitious agenda over the coming days. With the well-connected veteran administrator Graeme "Gubby" Allan acting as a rainmaker alongside new list manager James Gallagher, for the the first time in a long time, the club have persuaded a raft of players to nominate them as their destination.”
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sai ... 52ytz.html
“While Essendon and Carlton's trade manoeuvres have been under the most intense spotlight, due in part to the size of those clubs and some of the names involved, the club that shapes as the most frenetic in this trade period is St Kilda.
The Saints have set themselves an ambitious agenda over the coming days. With the well-connected veteran administrator Graeme "Gubby" Allan acting as a rainmaker alongside new list manager James Gallagher, for the the first time in a long time, the club have persuaded a raft of players to nominate them as their destination.”
Always loyal