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Yes, they had it wrong.
DeGoey, Brayshaw, Moore, Lever, Heeney, Wright ... in hindsight were easily better picks.
I do realise Heeney and Moore were bid players, but we didn’t bid on them.
As everyone knows, I had Christian at #1
Which also would have been an average pick... but not a poor pick as he has at least played nearly 100 games.
Moore and Heeney weren’t available. Wright has struggled to play seniors at GC. DeGoey would have been forced out by the media witch hunt if we drafted him and Brayshaw we’d be spewing on because he’s one paced.
McCartin has been killed with injury no one could have predicted.
Paddy been gone for 2 years.
And yes , the slower recovery times for diabetics have been a factor.
Should not have been drafted at 1.
Good luck to him, but he should just retire.
Yes, they had it wrong.
DeGoey, Brayshaw, Moore, Lever, Heeney, Wright ... in hindsight were easily better picks.
I do realise Heeney and Moore were bid players, but we didn’t bid on them.
As everyone knows, I had Christian at #1
Which also would have been an average pick... but not a poor pick as he has at least played nearly 100 games.
Moore and Heeney weren’t available. Wright has struggled to play seniors at GC. DeGoey would have been forced out by the media witch hunt if we drafted him and Brayshaw we’d be spewing on because he’s one paced.
McCartin has been killed with injury no one could have predicted.
For mine I wish him a full recovery, assisted by the very best of medical advice AND if that includes an assessment that he can resume his AFL career then the player, the team and the Club all benefit
He is not the first player to have had a career impacted upon by injury - there was a time when knee injuries terminated careers
Thankfully we have medical science
Such as world class athletes performing with diabetes type 1 (as distinct from type 2 which is life style)
Yes, they had it wrong.
DeGoey, Brayshaw, Moore, Lever, Heeney, Wright ... in hindsight were easily better picks.
I do realise Heeney and Moore were bid players, but we didn’t bid on them.
As everyone knows, I had Christian at #1
Which also would have been an average pick... but not a poor pick as he has at least played nearly 100 games.
Moore and Heeney weren’t available. Wright has struggled to play seniors at GC. DeGoey would have been forced out by the media witch hunt if we drafted him and Brayshaw we’d be spewing on because he’s one paced.
McCartin has been killed with injury no one could have predicted.
That is right isn't it? It was always about whether he could get fit (which he sort of managed to last season), there was nothing about concussion when we drafted him, correct?
BM is right though, it is unfortunate what has happened, especially considering Goddard as well and it will go down as another in the long line of blunders
So typical isnt it? The best talented player happens to have diabetes. We pick him cause he was the best available but of course it doesnt work out. Why us every f****** time.
Yes, they had it wrong.
DeGoey, Brayshaw, Moore, Lever, Heeney, Wright ... in hindsight were easily better picks.
I do realise Heeney and Moore were bid players, but we didn’t bid on them.
As everyone knows, I had Christian at #1
Which also would have been an average pick... but not a poor pick as he has at least played nearly 100 games.
Moore and Heeney weren’t available. Wright has struggled to play seniors at GC. DeGoey would have been forced out by the media witch hunt if we drafted him and Brayshaw we’d be spewing on because he’s one paced.
McCartin has been killed with injury no one could have predicted.
That is right isn't it? It was always about whether he could get fit (which he sort of managed to last season), there was nothing about concussion when we drafted him, correct?
BM is right though, it is unfortunate what has happened, especially considering Goddard as well and it will go down as another in the long line of blunders
McCARTIN and Goddard both have been ruined by injury how can anyone predict that?
SMS wrote: ↑Thu 03 Oct 2019 8:33am
So typical isnt it? The best talented player happens to have diabetes. We pick him cause he was the best available but of course it doesnt work out. Why us every f****** time.
There's probably two very good books in this
1. About the story of Paddy McCartin, and
2. Why it keeps happening to us
I bet someone broke a mirror, crossed path with a black cat or walked under a ladder (or all of the above!) somewhere in our past. We certainly have done something wrong to the matrix, somewhere in the past
Yes, they had it wrong.
DeGoey, Brayshaw, Moore, Lever, Heeney, Wright ... in hindsight were easily better picks.
I do realise Heeney and Moore were bid players, but we didn’t bid on them.
As everyone knows, I had Christian at #1
Which also would have been an average pick... but not a poor pick as he has at least played nearly 100 games.
Moore and Heeney weren’t available. Wright has struggled to play seniors at GC. DeGoey would have been forced out by the media witch hunt if we drafted him and Brayshaw we’d be spewing on because he’s one paced.
McCartin has been killed with injury no one could have predicted.
That is right isn't it? It was always about whether he could get fit (which he sort of managed to last season), there was nothing about concussion when we drafted him, correct?
BM is right though, it is unfortunate what has happened, especially considering Goddard as well and it will go down as another in the long line of blunders
McCARTIN and Goddard both have been ruined by injury how can anyone predict that?
Exactly! I remeber draft night and everything was looking rosy, until...
Luck plays a part. With regards to Goddard, he gets another chance with Carlton, gets selected and then gets another season ending injury in his first game with them.
SMS wrote: ↑Thu 03 Oct 2019 8:33am
So typical isnt it? The best talented player happens to have diabetes. We pick him cause he was the best available but of course it doesnt work out. Why us every f****** time.
Exactly, and the other thing was ...
The best available was DeGoey ... a player with the skills, strength, speed, evasiveness and X factor that we needed and lacked (and still lack). He ticked all the boxes for us - every single one - our recruiters just needed to open their eyes.
Collingwood recruiters figured that one out - to their credit, and our massive discredit.
I'd prefer Dal Santo, Montagna and N Riewoldt as our recruiters ... I'd trust them to make much better decisions.
They got spooked by the Tom Boyd deal and talked themselves into taking Paddy.
It felt like a mistake at the time.
And it was rationalized endlessly on here.
Poor call, we blinked, we got punished again.
Will we learn?
Masten, Ryder, Jones and Hill
1 Good player, 1 average player, 2 has beens
Yep that's about our recent trend
In that game where DeGoey ran rings around us, used his speed, strength and evasive skills to kick 6 goals, I wonder whether our illustrious recruiters had their eyes peeled?
Did DeGoey tick all the boxes for them then, or were they looking for a box to hide in?
SMS wrote: ↑Thu 03 Oct 2019 8:33am
So typical isnt it? The best talented player happens to have diabetes. We pick him cause he was the best available but of course it doesnt work out. Why us every f****** time.
Exactly, and the other thing was ...
The best available was DeGoey ... a player with the skills, strength, speed, evasiveness and X factor that we needed and lacked (and still lack). He ticked all the boxes for us - every single one - our recruiters just needed to open their eyes.
Collingwood recruiters figured that one out - to their credit, and our massive discredit.
I'd prefer Dal Santo, Montagna and N Riewoldt as our recruiters ... I'd trust them to make much better decisions.
We would have been forced to sack DeGoey if we recruited him. The Collingwood lead media mafia would have had a field day with his indiscretions.
samoht wrote: ↑Thu 03 Oct 2019 11:42am
The Collingwood recruiters didn’t muck it up.
In the game against us where DeGoey ran rings around us, used his speed and evasive skills to kick 6 goals, I wonder whether our illustrious recruiters had their eyes peeled?
Did DeGoey tick all the boxes for them then, or were they closing their eyes once again?
There were only 3 in contention for #1 that year, Petracca, McCartin & Brayshaw. If Collingwood had the #1 pick they would have taken one of them.
You don't need to be the greatest recruiter to select DeGoey or Stephenson (2017) when Collingwood did, just be grateful they were both available. The Pies have been lucky DeGoey turned out to be the player Petracca should have been.
Petracca will still play over 200 games, pretty much what a club expects from a Top 3 (first round) pick.
Spot on fugazi, we got spooked by Roo's impending retirement and the price the Dogs paid for Boyd despite the more pressing need for a class / goal kicking mid.
