Trade Summary...

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Given the media presentations that St Kilda will obtain Jones (who I know nothing of) using the Second Round Pick they receive from WB for Bruce, why is there no mention of the Pick we receive courtesy of Steven being stolen by Geelong?

Instead of trading Bruce out?

What am I missing?

Given it is said a shallow Draft, who is there in the Second Round and particularly late

I now note that the players we need to improve from including our “half back flanker” numbers are now being mentioned

[takeaway]

There would be a lot of argy bargy going on at the moment, and the media just latch on to what the latest rumour they've heard, as a result piecemeal reports.

Maybe re Bruce the Saints want pick 12, and they may have thrown McKenzie into the mix. I could see Bevo placing value on McKenzie, I think he is underrated on here. If we get 12 for Bruce & McKenzie, Ok with me. Or McKenzie may be used in another deal.

Will be an interesting trade period.

[The Linton Street Flash]

Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?

Who are these people?
And no they are not. E.g. I don't agree with Pundits view on Zac Jones. He would be good for us. He played in a GF against the Dogs as a 21 year old. Has tons of pace and ability and hardness. Along with Hill on another wing they could both be very damaging in at Marvel and the G. Chuck Billings in the mix also and we have three very good players running around on the wings each week.

Ffs mate, give it up will ya.

It’s so bloody obvious who you are, you’re kidding no one but yourself.

How you’re not permanently banned for baiting is beyond me.

Why don’t you head on over to ‘Big Football Player’ and stop destroying this site, you tiresome twit!

No need to get angry mate. It's a minor footy forum based around St Kilda. I don't ever report anyone but you would deserve it nonetheless. Getting angry on a footy forum. Lol

I think you're misreading pity as anger, you sad little fellow!

[johnnyrayflamingo]

Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?

Who are these people?
And no they are not. E.g. I don't agree with Pundits view on Zac Jones. He would be good for us. He played in a GF against the Dogs as a 21 year old. Has tons of pace and ability and hardness. Along with Hill on another wing they could both be very damaging in at Marvel and the G. Chuck Billings in the mix also and we have three very good players running around on the wings each week.

Ffs mate, give it up will ya.

It’s so bloody obvious who you are, you’re kidding no one but yourself.

How you’re not permanently banned for baiting is beyond me.

Why don’t you head on over to ‘Big Football Player’ and stop destroying this site, you tiresome twit!

No need to get angry mate. It's a minor footy forum based around St Kilda. I don't ever report anyone but you would deserve it nonetheless. Getting angry on a footy forum. Lol

I think you're misreading pity as anger, you sad little fellow!

You finished yet bud?

[skeptic]

Seems like every thread you feature in JRF there’s is this constant need to try and return the focus back to football. No doubt you’ll play the victim card but it is always you... or about you, or involves you.

Can you just give it a rest

[johnnyrayflamingo]

What, you don't see me getting attacked and bullied in every thread by the same posters like yourself?

Obviously not. And I get accused of not talking footy...

[Pundit]

Seems like every thread you feature in JRF there’s is this constant need to try and return the focus back to football. No doubt you’ll play the victim card but it is always you... or about you, or involves you.

Can you just give it a rest

Can you rest harassing with the give it a rest requests. Ironically it's annoying. Just ignore him. It's not that hard to do, so much so one could be forgiven for thinking you are the problem.

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Go back to defending the child molester, Pell, Pundit

You are a disgrace to humanity and the fact that you present as being interested in St Kilda is very concerning for anyone contemplating taking their children or grand children to a St Kilda game or function

I suggest however you are an Essendon supporter defending the deliberate and then concealed injecting of players with performance enhancing drugs and that is your purpose on here along with at least one other, whose contribution you quoted on another thread re Ryder

[skeptic]

Yikes this escalated

[BackFromUSA]

Enough. When I get time there will be housekeeping.

Time to do an I.P. Sweep.

What a monumental waste of my time.

[Devilhead]

Enough. When I get time there will be housekeeping.

Time to do an I.P. Sweep.

What a monumental waste of my time.

I did an IP sweep once and did a hammy ..... 4 weeks out

[SaintPav]

Changing the subject.

What about Josh Jenkins? More of a stay at home FF but might be room for him if Bruce goes.

We really don’t have the picks anyway.

[kosifantutti]

Enough. When I get time there will be housekeeping.

Time to do an I.P. Sweep.

What a monumental waste of my time.

I did an IP sweep once and did a hammy ..... 4 weeks out

I was told I’d have to sit down to urinate.

[saintsRrising]

Keath has nominated the Dogs.

[Zed]

So I thought we bought in Gubby Allen late last year who was a reputed mover and shaker behind the scenes in terms of getting deals done.

We will soon if he has earned his pay.
Nothing suggested so far (except maybe Brad Hill) has gotten me too excited.

In: Hill, Jones, Ryder , late 2nd Round pick
Out Pick 5, Bruce, Steven

Doesn’t exactly seem like we over achieved

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Interesting that when PA touched up Sydney late in the season Ryder kicked 1.2 and 87 DT points

Jones racked up 66 DT points

Now I am a DT Point skeptic - and hugely so hence there is a proviso

Ryder had 27 hit outs so was engaged as a ruckman at least part of the game

Jones had 17 possessions

I have only looked at that one game, noting Jones did not play against us in the final minor round game (injured?)

Where does the Jones reputation come from and is he another Kent being a periodic contributor only on what we saw in 2019?

[fugazi]

Trouble with Kent is, he can only run quick in a straight line. No manoeuvrable.

[Rocket]

With Bruce on way out ..I think the best outcome is:

* Bruce to Bulldogs for pick 14, maybe a 3rd rounder or player
* Pick 14 to Fremantle for Hill
* Pick 5 to Gold Coast for Ben King

Bruce going leaves a significant gap, but if we bring in Ben King earlier it’s win:win and our forward line albeit young however looks a damn sight better long term

Lonie, King, Long
Membrey, King/Ryder, Billings

The club must be looking at this type of scenario to maximise Bruce lose

[Impatient Sainter]

Maybe its Bruce & Lonie?

[Joffa Burns]

With Bruce on way out ..I think the best outcome is:

* Bruce to Bulldogs for pick 14, maybe a 3rd rounder or player
* Pick 14 to Fremantle for Hill
* Pick 5 to Gold Coast for Ben King

Bruce going leaves a significant gap, but if we bring in Ben King earlier it’s win:win and our forward line albeit young however looks a damn sight better long term

Lonie, King, Long
Membrey, King/Ryder, Billings

The club must be looking at this type of scenario to maximise Bruce lose

I love it but doubt we’ll get #14 for Bruce it GC will let King go for #5. Assume we’d need to throw something in with Bruce and a lot more for B King.

[Joffa Burns]

Trouble with Kent is, he can only run quick in a straight line. No manoeuvrable.

Kent is a butt average AFL footballer who was a fringe player at a weak club.

Why we gave him 3 years is a mystery, desperation to land a player?

There is no upside to Kent, 2-3 good games a year is his standard.

[Kate]

With Bruce on way out ..I think the best outcome is:

* Bruce to Bulldogs for pick 14, maybe a 3rd rounder or player
* Pick 14 to Fremantle for Hill
* Pick 5 to Gold Coast for Ben King

Bruce going leaves a significant gap, but if we bring in Ben King earlier it’s win:win and our forward line albeit young however looks a damn sight better long term

Lonie, King, Long
Membrey, King/Ryder, Billings

The club must be looking at this type of scenario to maximise Bruce lose

I think if we approached the season with this forward setup we will be in for frustrating times.

Ryder would be the weak link in this scenario. He is not a full forward and not likely to develop into one. Marshall might develop into a FF, but do we want to turn our back on his proven potential as a top ruck?

Kings would be a work in progress but with a likelihood of high reward down the track.

[SaintPav]

With Bruce on way out ..I think the best outcome is:

* Bruce to Bulldogs for pick 14, maybe a 3rd rounder or player
* Pick 14 to Fremantle for Hill
* Pick 5 to Gold Coast for Ben King

Bruce going leaves a significant gap, but if we bring in Ben King earlier it’s win:win and our forward line albeit young however looks a damn sight better long term

Lonie, King, Long
Membrey, King/Ryder, Billings

The club must be looking at this type of scenario to maximise Bruce lose

I think if we approached the season with this forward setup we will be in for frustrating times.

Ryder would be the weak link in this scenario. He is not a full forward and not likely to develop into one. Marshall might develop into a FF, but do we want to turn our back on his proven potential as a top ruck?

Kings would be a work in progress but with a likelihood of high reward down the track.

I wouldn’t be unhappy with this. Not problem is I can’t see Freo accepting pick 14 for Hill.

I’d be happy with the following ins:

Hill
Jones
King
Jenkins

[skeptic]

Trouble with Kent is, he can only run quick in a straight line. No manoeuvrable.

Kent is a butt average AFL footballer who was a fringe player at a weak club.

Why we gave him 3 years is a mystery, desperation to land a player?

There is no upside to Kent, 2-3 good games a year is his standard.

I can fill that in for you.

We are a terrible judge of talent... like really bad.
We tend to undervalue what we have and give it away cheaply and overrate external talent and pay overs/overcommit to it

[saintsRrising]

Well nothing to suggest today that we have missed out in any way by not gaining Tomlinson.