Trade Summary...

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
silverhalo
Club Player
Posts: 1049
Joined: Tue 20 Oct 2015 5:52pm
Has thanked: 170 times
Been thanked: 239 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825935Post silverhalo »

If were to pick up the following 4 players via trades:

Hill, Jones, Keath and Ryder

and perhaps have to farewell:

Bruce, Steven and Newness

I'd be pretty excited (although sorry to see Bruce go)

We've also got Bytel and King to come in, Clavarino will be injury free and knocking on the door, Logan Austin comes back in after missing the year with injury, and the highly promising Jack Mayo, who we picked up in the mid season draft.

Lots to look forward to in 2020......Go Saints!

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-09- ... or-in-2020


silverhalo
Club Player
Posts: 1049
Joined: Tue 20 Oct 2015 5:52pm
Has thanked: 170 times
Been thanked: 239 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825936Post silverhalo »

saintsRrising wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 8:40pm
silverhalo wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 8:31pm
He's a terrific intercept mark
He is, but he needs to develop the other aspects of his game.
Yep


SMS
Club Player
Posts: 1233
Joined: Fri 04 Nov 2011 3:00pm
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825945Post SMS »

So Papley? bloody hope so

Pick 5 FOR Hill, Rd3
Bruce FOR ZJones, AKeath
Newnes & Lonie FOR Papley
Ryder
Steven FOR Constable

Geary Carlilse Webster
Keath Battle Roberton
Hill Ross ZJones
Papley Marshal Kent
Gresham MKing Membrey

Ryder Steele, Clark

Coffield, Constable, Dunstan, Acres

Emg: Long, Parker, Wilkie


SMS
Club Player
Posts: 1233
Joined: Fri 04 Nov 2011 3:00pm
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825948Post SMS »

Looking at that team its glaringly obvious we need midfield depth. MUST get mid for steven

Hope Bytel, Acres, Clark become guns and Dunstan improves even more


johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825949Post johnnyrayflamingo »

Where is Hannebery?


😎
User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30098
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825952Post saintsRrising »

johnnyrayflamingo wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 10:47pm Where is Hannebery?
Hammy, 2 weeks.


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825953Post johnnyrayflamingo »

saintsRrising wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 11:22pm
johnnyrayflamingo wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 10:47pm Where is Hannebery?
Hammy, 2 weeks.
So he will be right for Rd 1 2020 then seeing its September 2019. Cool as. 😎


😎
To the top
SS Life Member
Posts: 3266
Joined: Fri 16 Mar 2007 4:05pm
Been thanked: 390 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825955Post To the top »

With all due respect, Carlisle will not be playing on the last defensive line - and neither Geary nor Webster are up to the standard

Battle is not a KPP option

The back 6 will have players they are responsible for so matchups will be match by match

But if you want to go by positions with those names, Keath in a back pocket with Carlisle at CHB and Battle on a defensive flank (and creating mayhem by pushing forward looking to hit the scoreboard)

Clark and Coffield will be in the back 6

Then there is Roberton as a bonus - or Wilkie

That gives us the spread of ball users we need to transition from defence

Marshall will ruck - so how do we structure the support?

Hopefully Acres cements a mid field responsibility because he can impact

Steele, Ross and Dunstan bring what they bring but they do not have the “danger” Acres brings

Each of those 3 have limitations hence their kick to handball ratios - we can’t just rely on Hill to add “danger” by way of superior ball usage

The designated full back?

Austin or Claravino?

Bruce, King and Membrey up forward (McCartin?)

I don’t know about Jones or how we get him from Sydney given 5 goes for Hill

We will put a better side on the park in 2020 but other sides will improve as well.

We just have to improve more

Hence moving on from some of the players I have mentioned because they have deficiencies

No doubt that will see a response!


To the top
SS Life Member
Posts: 3266
Joined: Fri 16 Mar 2007 4:05pm
Been thanked: 390 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825956Post To the top »

And just to add, Kent would need to bring something I have not yet seen


SMS
Club Player
Posts: 1233
Joined: Fri 04 Nov 2011 3:00pm
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825957Post SMS »

Geary is a gun. Moat underated defender and player in the comp.


User avatar
avid
Club Player
Posts: 1648
Joined: Tue 11 Mar 2008 1:54am
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 95 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825958Post avid »

Carlisle is probably a better footballer than Bruce, but Bruce is more valuable to the team.
We should be getting the most we can out of a trade for Carlisle, and holding onto Bruce for our heart and soul.


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12768
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2721 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825959Post B.M »

Agreed

Battle more than capably played CHB when Carlisle was out, he showed better form than he showed as a forward, even at Sandy. When Jake came back, Battle struggled. CHB is a very different position to FB and I don’t think Carlisle or Battle are comfortable or even any good there

Brown is still the best option.

Battle and Marshall (and Wilkie) were the finds of the season for me... leave them where they performed.


User avatar
stevie
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4898
Joined: Mon 06 Sep 2010 9:09am
Location: Gold Coast
Has thanked: 194 times
Been thanked: 144 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825961Post stevie »

johnnyrayflamingo wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 10:47pm Where is Hannebery?
Billings missing too lol


fugazi
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4243
Joined: Thu 25 Mar 2004 2:47pm
Location: incarnate
Has thanked: 286 times
Been thanked: 694 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825972Post fugazi »

In H-Scum :
Apparently Bruce is to be traded for pick 30 to WB which we will on trade to Sydney for Zac Jones.

Just a ridiculous move if this happens.

CHF in prime for a turn-over merchant Flanker


Nee!
gutiguti
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu 15 Sep 2011 9:23pm

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825975Post gutiguti »

fugazi wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 9:11am In H-Scum :
Apparently Bruce is to be traded for pick 30 to WB which we will on trade to Sydney for Zac Jones.

Just a ridiculous move if this happens.

CHF in prime for a turn-over merchant Flanker
Not having a dig, but who are you not picking round one next year if Bruce is on the list? A Forward line of Bruce/Membrey/King/Ryder (with Marshall in the ruck) is way too big.
Who plays for the zebs?

Losing Bruce would suck but so would sacrificing the quality of our senior side to have a popular guy in the twos


fugazi
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4243
Joined: Thu 25 Mar 2004 2:47pm
Location: incarnate
Has thanked: 286 times
Been thanked: 694 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825976Post fugazi »

Ryder


Nee!
Pundit
Club Player
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun 22 Sep 2019 8:19pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825977Post Pundit »

If that trade goes through then the decision makers have lost the plot. Zak is not rated high within Sydney so I'd guess they will be ecstatic if they get pick 30. He is well known for turning the ball over and butchering it by foot. Yep giving Bruce up for that type of player makes complete sense. :roll: :roll:


gutiguti
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu 15 Sep 2011 9:23pm

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825978Post gutiguti »

fugazi wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 9:57amRyder
and who rucks the 20-25% when marshall is on the bench? acres/bruce i think have proven an inadequate chop out
Last edited by gutiguti on Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:34am, edited 1 time in total.


Pundit
Club Player
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun 22 Sep 2019 8:19pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825979Post Pundit »

gutiguti wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 9:56am
fugazi wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 9:11am In H-Scum :
Apparently Bruce is to be traded for pick 30 to WB which we will on trade to Sydney for Zac Jones.

Just a ridiculous move if this happens.

CHF in prime for a turn-over merchant Flanker
Not having a dig, but who are you not picking round one next year if Bruce is on the list? A Forward line of Bruce/Membrey/King/Ryder (with Marshall in the ruck) is way too big.
Who plays for the zebs?

Losing Bruce would suck but so would sacrificing the quality of our senior side to have a popular guy in the twos
King and Ryder will spend big chunks of the year playing for the Zebz


User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 19160
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1609 times
Been thanked: 2031 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825981Post SaintPav »

Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825984Post johnnyrayflamingo »

SaintPav wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:50am Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?
Who are these people?
And no they are not. E.g. I don't agree with Pundits view on Zac Jones. He would be good for us. He played in a GF against the Dogs as a 21 year old. Has tons of pace and ability and hardness. Along with Hill on another wing they could both be very damaging in at Marvel and the G. Chuck Billings in the mix also and we have three very good players running around on the wings each week.


😎
User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 19160
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1609 times
Been thanked: 2031 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825994Post SaintPav »

johnnyrayflamingo wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:59am
SaintPav wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:50am Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?
Who are these people?
And no they are not. E.g. I don't agree with Pundits view on Zac Jones. He would be good for us. He played in a GF against the Dogs as a 21 year old. Has tons of pace and ability and hardness. Along with Hill on another wing they could both be very damaging in at Marvel and the G. Chuck Billings in the mix also and we have three very good players running around on the wings each week.
NFI.

That's fine. I'm merely posing a question.

Zac Jones is ok but I don't want to lose Bruce in the process.

Perhaps if Newnes goes we can use any compo pick we get for him on Jones. Geelong may give us something reasonable for Steven which we could use. I'm not holding my breath.

I'd prefer both Billings play as a high half-forward who can have a run in the middle. Same with Gresham, but he plays deeper.


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
The Linton Street Flash
Club Player
Posts: 471
Joined: Sun 10 Aug 2008 7:42pm
Has thanked: 76 times
Been thanked: 108 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825996Post The Linton Street Flash »

johnnyrayflamingo wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:59am
SaintPav wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:50am Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?
Who are these people?
And no they are not. E.g. I don't agree with Pundits view on Zac Jones. He would be good for us. He played in a GF against the Dogs as a 21 year old. Has tons of pace and ability and hardness. Along with Hill on another wing they could both be very damaging in at Marvel and the G. Chuck Billings in the mix also and we have three very good players running around on the wings each week.
Ffs mate, give it up will ya.

It’s so bloody obvious who you are, you’re kidding no one but yourself.

How you’re not permanently banned for baiting is beyond me.

Why don’t you head on over to ‘Big Football Player’ and stop destroying this site, you tiresome twit!


Look again it's the Flash!!
johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1825997Post johnnyrayflamingo »

The Linton Street Flash wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 11:36am
johnnyrayflamingo wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:59am
SaintPav wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:50am Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?
Who are these people?
And no they are not. E.g. I don't agree with Pundits view on Zac Jones. He would be good for us. He played in a GF against the Dogs as a 21 year old. Has tons of pace and ability and hardness. Along with Hill on another wing they could both be very damaging in at Marvel and the G. Chuck Billings in the mix also and we have three very good players running around on the wings each week.
Ffs mate, give it up will ya.

It’s so bloody obvious who you are, you’re kidding no one but yourself.

How you’re not permanently banned for baiting is beyond me.

Why don’t you head on over to ‘Big Football Player’ and stop destroying this site, you tiresome twit!
No need to get angry mate. It's a minor footy forum based around St Kilda. I don't ever report anyone but you would deserve it nonetheless. Getting angry on a footy forum. Lol


😎
User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30098
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826050Post saintsRrising »

fugazi wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 9:11am In H-Scum :
Apparently Bruce is to be traded for pick 30 to WB which we will on trade to Sydney for Zac Jones.

Just a ridiculous move if this happens.

CHF in prime for a turn-over merchant Flanker

I doubt that alone would be the trade. ie could be 30 and 41 to gain Jones and Keath for example.


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
Post Reply