Trade Summary...

[saintsRrising]

Well obviously a moving feast, but currently seems to be heading along the lines of:

Hill in for pick 5, with hopefully something back

Ryder in for a late pick out.

Bruce out for enough trade value to gain us both of Jones and Keath

Steven out for quite little. Late second rounder if we are lucky.

Newnes unknown. Hopefully someone will take him as a FA on a long enough contract to get us a second round pick.


SUMMARY

IN

Hill, Jones, Keath, Ryder and 2 or 3 second or third rounders to use in the draft.

OUT

Pick 5, Bruce, Steven, Pick 55 or later for Ryder.

Plus there may be some pick swapping to fine tune things.

Club to take Biggy, but this should be late and so pick cost should not be too much.


If Robbo can indeed return to play that will leave us in much better shape than we were in this year.

Hill is the most significant player amongst the INs.

With Keath and Robbo in, Battle would seem likely to move forward.


PS: Crouch I think is very unlikely. We would also have to give up trade value from next year which would rule us our of gaining B King.

[Waltzing St Kilda]

Next year's first rounder and steak knives for Ben King. Make it happen Saints.

[saintsRrising]

Next year's first rounder and steak knives for Ben King. Make it happen Saints.

My op was more about what I think is very likely to happen based on current information.

B King is purely speculative.


Also reading this morning that Crouch is off to GC.

[IluvHarvey]

Next year's first rounder and steak knives for Ben King. Make it happen Saints.

My op was more about what I think is very likely to happen based on current information.

B King is purely speculative.


Also reading this morning that Crouch is off to GC.

I think you missed Steven out of your summary

[Ghost Like]

Just need to add Steven and Newnes to the OUTS sRr, even though you mentioned them in the summary.

[Saintmatt]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

[Gershwin]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

Talk this morning of Carlisle to Collingwood and Ricky Nixon has mentioned Carlton interested in Dunstan.

[Pundit]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

Talk this morning of Carlisle to Collingwood and Ricky Nixon has mentioned Carlton interested in Dunstan.

Golly golly gosh, Rick Nixon being the source of information for a fan forum, that has to be highly credible...

[spert]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

Talk this morning of Carlisle to Collingwood and Ricky Nixon has mentioned Carlton interested in Dunstan.

I think the Saints are interested in Fyffe, Cripps, Neale, Dangerfield and a host of others...but they're not going to get them.

[saintsRrising]

Just need to add Steven and Newnes to the OUTS sRr, even though you mentioned them in the summary.

I have mentioned Newnes, but have not yet counted him as an OUT, as I am yet to hear of a strong rumour of any club actually wanting to pick him up.

If he only moves on a cheap deal, then our compensation pick will be diminished.

[saintsRrising]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

I am just going on the rumours for the media which still have him more likely to join us than the Dogs. I suspect that the Saints are prepared to offer a longer contract and more $$ than the Dogs are.

[saintsRrising]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

Talk this morning of Carlisle to Collingwood and Ricky Nixon has mentioned Carlton interested in Dunstan.

Nixon tends to be highly speculative in his predictions. Not a source that I place much credence in. Pretty sure he also mentioned Dunstan a while back.

Moore looked terrific against GWS. Roughead has been a great pick up the Pies this year in defence. So unless they want to move Moore forward next year, I am not sure why they would want Carlisle.

[saintsRrising]

Next year's first rounder and steak knives for Ben King. Make it happen Saints.

My op was more about what I think is very likely to happen based on current information.

B King is purely speculative.


Also reading this morning that Crouch is off to GC.

I think you missed Steven out of your summary

Yes sorry. I had him in the discussion but made a mistake and left him out of the summary. I have now amended it.

[SMS]

Trade summary
best 3 players all gone for rnd 2s
in are players who want retirement funds whom couldnt give a f*** about a flag. Deadset Hills side has even said this

We are a joke of a club. wooden spoon coming up FOR SURE.

[Saintmatt]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

I am just going on the rumours for the media which still have him more likely to join us than the Dogs. I suspect that the Saints are prepared to offer a longer contract and more $$ than the Dogs are.

Yep - absolutely - I was more just ruminating on my own brain farts in hindsight!

[kosifantutti]

Update Tuesday lunchtime.

No trades completed.
Repeat.
No trades completed.

[saintsRrising]

Update Tuesday lunchtime.

No trades completed.
Repeat.
No trades completed.

Lots of trades at https://www.asx.com.au/

[mad saint guy]

Keath only makes sense if we lost Carlisle. Since Carlisle is a better player it wouldn't make sense to voluntarily give him up.

Tall defensive stocks of Carlisle, Keath, Brown, Battle, Wilkie, Roberton, Austin, Joyce, Marsh and Clavarino is very excessive.

[saintsRrising]

Keath only makes sense if we lost Carlisle. Since Carlisle is a better player it wouldn't make sense to voluntarily give him up.


Tall defensive stocks of Carlisle, Keath, Brown, Battle, Wilkie, Roberton, Austin, Joyce, Marsh and Clavarino is very excessive.

Keath is just that little bit bigger than most of the others.

Keath can replace Brown at FB. Brown has been told later that the club will decide on him

Brown is a great stopper, but does not have a good offensive game. If Keath in, Brown will be let go.

Carlisle is better suited to CHB.

Battle looked good at CHB, but not so good at FB. Can play forward. If Bruce is traded, then Battle probably will play forward.

Clavarino is a long way off it, if ever.

Robbo is a weapon, but on the flank.

Wilkie too short for FB or CHB except as occasional game.

Austin and Marsh like Robbo both not yet suited to key position. Maybe if they muscle up more.

Joyce was being trialled up forward late in the season and looked quite good.

[fugazi]

Keath only makes sense if we lost Carlisle. Since Carlisle is a better player it wouldn't make sense to voluntarily give him up.

Tall defensive stocks of Carlisle, Keath, Brown, Battle, Wilkie, Roberton, Austin, Joyce, Marsh and Clavarino is very excessive.

Lot of talls, how many are any good? (anymore )

[silverhalo]

Keath only makes sense if we lost Carlisle. Since Carlisle is a better player it wouldn't make sense to voluntarily give him up.


Tall defensive stocks of Carlisle, Keath, Brown, Battle, Wilkie, Roberton, Austin, Joyce, Marsh and Clavarino is very excessive.

Keath is just that little bit bigger than most of the others.

Keath can replace Brown at FB. Brown has been told later that the club will decide on him

Brown is a great stopper, but does not have a good offensive game. If Keath in, Brown will be let go.

Carlisle is better suited to CHB.

Battle looked good at CHB, but not so good at FB. Can play forward. If Bruce is traded, then Battle probably will play forward.

Clavarino is a long way off it, if ever.

Robbo is a weapon, but on the flank.

Wilkie too short for FB or CHB except as occasional game.

Austin and Marsh like Robbo both not yet suited to key position. Maybe if they muscle up more.

Joyce was being trialled up forward late in the season and looked quite good.

I think Clav's a lot better and a lot closer than what you give him credit for. He was in the conversation before he got injured at the start of the year..

[saintsRrising]

I think Clav's a lot better and a lot closer than what you give him credit for. He was in the conversation before he got injured at the start of the year..

I would love to be wrong. He is only 20yrs 4mth old.

But in the games I saw him play this year he was one dimensional and underwhelming and at VFL level I would have liked to have seen more. Maybe I just saw the wrong games though.

[Zed]

I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me

I share both your annoyance and bafflement

[silverhalo]

I think Clav's a lot better and a lot closer than what you give him credit for. He was in the conversation before he got injured at the start of the year..

I would love to be wrong. He is only 20yrs 4mth old.

But in the games I saw him play this year he was one dimensional and underwhelming and at VFL level I would have liked to have seen more. Maybe I just saw the wrong games though.

All shall be revealed next year I guess.....as you said, he's still young and another summer in the gym won't hurt. He's a terrific intercept mark and I'm confident he'll make it but let's see.

[saintsRrising]

He's a terrific intercept mark

He is, but he needs to develop the other aspects of his game.