If we get Jones and Hill...

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824730Post johnnyrayflamingo »

...then where does Billings play?

Jones and Hill are going to be our no1 wingers if these very likely trades go through. It's great to have depth in any case but maybe Billings will play that high HF role again and Ratts might be wanting 20-30 goals out of him.

Our side is looking better already for 2020.

Chuck Hannas in the guts. It's a very good centreline there Saints fans.


😎
User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 19160
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1609 times
Been thanked: 2031 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824732Post SaintPav »

Do we really need Jones? I was thinking that Hind could play on the wing.


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824733Post Wayne42 »

How do we get Hill and Jones with picks 5 and 55.

Hanneberry won't be in the guts, he'll be in rehab.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
The_President
Club Player
Posts: 878
Joined: Sun 27 Mar 2016 8:05pm
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824734Post The_President »

You must be on drugs if you think that Jones is a better winger than Jack


johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824736Post johnnyrayflamingo »

The_President wrote: Mon 16 Sep 2019 9:34pm You must be on drugs if you think that Jones is a better winger than Jack
He's not. Jones is not a forward. He is a mid. Understand?


😎
johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824737Post johnnyrayflamingo »

Wayne42 wrote: Mon 16 Sep 2019 9:27pm How do we get Hill and Jones with picks 5 and 55.

Hanneberry won't be in the guts, he'll be in rehab.
Future picks or split pick 5 or Bruce trade...perhaps.


😎
johnnyrayflamingo
Club Player
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon 02 Sep 2019 1:22pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824738Post johnnyrayflamingo »

SaintPav wrote: Mon 16 Sep 2019 9:26pm Do we really need Jones? I was thinking that Hind could play on the wing.
Keep Hind forward. I really like him there. It's all about depth too.


😎
fugazi
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4243
Joined: Thu 25 Mar 2004 2:47pm
Location: incarnate
Has thanked: 286 times
Been thanked: 694 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824741Post fugazi »

Quick side


Nee!
Toy Saint
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2203
Joined: Wed 19 Aug 2009 10:32pm
Location: Del Mar, California
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 237 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824745Post Toy Saint »

Sorry for the dumb question, but who is Jones? The only Jones I can think of is that aging Melbourne player.


User avatar
kosifantutti
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8584
Joined: Fri 21 Jan 2005 9:06am
Location: Back in town
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 1534 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824746Post kosifantutti »

Toy Saint wrote: Mon 16 Sep 2019 11:02pm Sorry for the dumb question, but who is Jones? The only Jones I can think of is that aging Melbourne player.
His brother at Sydney.


Macquarie Dictionary Word of the Year for 2023 "Kosi Lives"
Saintmatt
SS Life Member
Posts: 2594
Joined: Fri 20 Jan 2012 4:57pm
Has thanked: 2043 times
Been thanked: 1167 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824784Post Saintmatt »

SaintPav wrote: Mon 16 Sep 2019 9:26pm Do we really need Jones? I was thinking that Hind could play on the wing.
10000% agree.

When Hind was making a name for himself least couple of years - he played on a wing and half-back in Essendon's VFL team. When he made an impact this year in his few senior games for us - it was not as a small forward (I didn't think he was super impressive there) - it was with straight-line speed off a wing and then pin-point accurate short kicks to leading forwards. It's that skill that Essendon supporters go mental about now not having - they already have Saad and McKenna but Hind is a better kick than both of them. Instead they took Tom Jok (who trained with us over Summer) after we stole Hind ... ultimate sliding doors drafting.

I've been wondering for weeks where Zac Jones might play in our team. Yes, he's fast and aggressive but, he's not nearly as good a kick as Hind so, I settled on it being perhaps where Savage plays.


Go you red, black & white warriors
stkfc1
Club Player
Posts: 1351
Joined: Sat 06 Oct 2007 2:42pm
Has thanked: 240 times
Been thanked: 382 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824793Post stkfc1 »

Saintmatt wrote: Tue 17 Sep 2019 1:06pm
SaintPav wrote: Mon 16 Sep 2019 9:26pm Do we really need Jones? I was thinking that Hind could play on the wing.
10000% agree.

When Hind was making a name for himself least couple of years - he played on a wing and half-back in Essendon's VFL team. When he made an impact this year in his few senior games for us - it was not as a small forward (I didn't think he was super impressive there) - it was with straight-line speed off a wing and then pin-point accurate short kicks to leading forwards. It's that skill that Essendon supporters go mental about now not having - they already have Saad and McKenna but Hind is a better kick than both of them. Instead they took Tom Jok (who trained with us over Summer) after we stole Hind ... ultimate sliding doors drafting.

I've been wondering for weeks where Zac Jones might play in our team. Yes, he's fast and aggressive but, he's not nearly as good a kick as Hind so, I settled on it being perhaps where Savage plays.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... 2=S&type=A

Some comparisons (obviously they play different positions)

His KE is slightly higher than Hind but more clangers and turnover although he gets a lot more of the ball so those stat differentials are going to happen. At 71% KE its not terrible. I was surprised that Hinds KE was lower as he looks likr he uses the ball quite well. Jones does have a habit (ala Gilbert, Geary) of turning it over at the worst possible time, in the games I've seen of him this year so there'll be some frustrating moments with him.

Comparing him to Savage.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... 2=S&type=A

Savage has him well covered in the kicking department but Jones has him covered in most other areas.


cwrcyn
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4346
Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
Location: earth
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1467 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1824814Post cwrcyn »

If both Jones and Hill come in, then players have to move out. Steven looks like he's going, so you could say Steven for Hill (indirectly, of course). The next question is does Jones become an addition to our midfield or will he displace someone? Acres could be part of the Hill deal, but when has Acres truly played as a mid? Could it mean that someone like Sinclair could be thrown into a deal? It's going to get very complicated, and we may be in for some surprises....... some pleasant, some not


User avatar
Linton Lodger
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2467
Joined: Mon 18 Aug 2014 2:07pm
Has thanked: 86 times
Been thanked: 256 times

Re: If we get Jones and Hill...

Post: # 1825064Post Linton Lodger »

I think Nick Hind is also born to play on the wing. I'd like to see Jack go through the middle a bit more.


Post Reply