Doggies offer 3 to 4 year deal for Bruce

[CQ SAINT]

Apparently Collingwood are now in the box seat to land Bruce

With what? DeGoey? Tell them we will think about it.

[Junction Oval]

What commonsense does this idea have ?? None. Delivery into the forward line has been our main problem for several years now - not so much about poor saints competitors in the forward line. King is just starting out. Membery is very good, but only medium height. Ryder if he comes in, is just a big plodder.

Bruce gives us attack and some ferocity. Who will he be replaced with? On the other side, trading Carlisle has its merits, with Battle the obvious replacement.

We need to be trading to "move forward," not stay about the same. Our past experience does not convince me that our people really know how to go about their Trading job, with game-deciding outcomes.

[CQ SAINT]

What commonsense does this idea have ?? None. Delivery into the forward line has been our main problem for several years now - not so much about poor saints competitors in the forward line. King is just starting out. Membery is very good, but only medium height. Ryder if he comes in, is just a big plodder.

Bruce gives us attack and some ferocity. Who will he be replaced with? On the other side, trading Carlisle has its merits, with Battle the obvious replacement.

We need to be trading to "move forward," not stay about the same. Our past experience does not convince me that our people really know how to go about their Trading job, with game-deciding outcomes.

So, trade Carlisle for who? Keep Bruce and improve how?

[Junction Oval]

Trade Carlisle for top MIDS - we have a Carlisle replacement in Battle. Keep Bruce - top mids will be able to feed to him and others with some efficiency/effectiveness for a change.

[CQ SAINT]

Trade Carlisle for top MIDS - we have a Carlisle replacement in Battle. Keep Bruce - top mids will be able to feed to him and others with some efficiency/effectiveness for a change.

Which top mid, who takes Carlisle and what do we get? It sounds so easy when you hear it?

[aaron82]

In my opinion we as supporters severely overrate Bruce. He had 18 goals on the board after 15 games this season. Granted he had some injury issues but that seems to happen most years.

Someone said he is a hardworking GOP and that is spot on. Has he ever had a high finish in our b&f? I rate Membrey a lot higher, much more consistent.

This is the last season he may have some currency. If a club is willing to offer a pick in the top 20 we’d be mad not to look at it.

We also need picks to bring in Brad Hill & potentially Ben King at the end of 2020. Shuffling of picks must be done now to load up otherwise we will have nothing to offer

[The Recruit]

Would only trade for dogs first pick

[Junction Oval]

Trading is a merry-go-round, which I am not party to, so I won't try to name, names. That's why they pay the big bucks to people who are supposed to be in-the-know. However, our guys are simply not good enough at this game.

It's a question of what the Club needs, so go out and get the job done, but experience shows that we haven't been able to do that over many years now.

[footynut]

i’ll take Tim English thank you, and deal done!!!

[Saintmatt]

And now the Pies are big into Bruce

[Saintmatt]

i’ll take Tim English thank you, and deal done!!!

Hypothetical .. would you take him or Naughton?

[Special]

As the song goes:

No way get f***ed f*** Off!

[CQ SAINT]

Bruce will kick 60-70 goals with the delivery he’ll get from the Doggies mids.

Early 2nd round pick is probably the best we can hope for IMHO, anything less I’d say no deal.

Jeremy Cameron would be very happy Bruce left GWS then. He couldn't kick 70 this year.

[The Barometer]

Bruce is like Cam Mooney 10 years ago. Honest forward who presents and consistently makes a good contest. Except we don’t have and won’t for some time have a midfield like the cats had. If dogs offer good value trade I’d like to think we would consider it.

[Spinner]

I really would have thought that Bruce is in the first 3 picked in our team alongside Membrey and Marshall.

Wow.

No wonder we are finishing in the bottom half consistently.

[1966]

A sad joke.
We trade out any player who is in demand from another club and keep the players nobody else wants.
Then wonder why we don’t improve.

[saintbob]

Bruce will kick 60-70 goals with the delivery he’ll get from the Doggies mids.

Early 2nd round pick is probably the best we can hope for IMHO, anything less I’d say no deal.

Jeremy Cameron would be very happy Bruce left GWS then. He couldn't kick 70 this year.

Really, I don’t believe I compared him to Cameron but what ever rocks your boat.

I’m sure Cameron would’ve kicked 70+ had GWS
had all their best mids available all year.

[johnnyrayflamingo]

Bruce contracted still for a year
Doubt he will leave or want to unless it's an offer too good to refuse for BOTH sides

[The Barometer]

If we are planning a forward set up which replaces Bruce with Marshall or Ryder... we are an absolute basket case

I won’t be disgusted about the Bruce trade because he is such a great player... I will be disgusted because it will show the decision makers at the club have NFI

We need Bruce, not because he’s such a gun forward... we need him to be a bullock and take the heat off King

What are your thoughts on Marshall? Rooney and Dal both in the media suggested his long term is forward who sometimes rucks. Marshall creates a good contest,works hard and is good when the ball hits the ground. Is that much different to Bruce? I see the difference that Marshall pinch hitting ruck would be a weapon, whereas Bruce is not a great back up ruck option.
I’d be happy for the club to give Marshall a year to develop in forward line in which case Ryder is a good option. If it doesn’t work Marshall back to #1 ruck and King into forward line. A good pick/kid for Bruce I dont understand the hysteria.

[Rubyjo]

Doggies are a hipster heaven.. Perfect for Bruce..

[Ghost Like]

I'm just disappointed I missed all those games that have made Bruce the Son of Plugger. He's also hit his prime (Apparently), 36 goals a season, that's huge. Could be 70+ with a decent midfield (Apparently), the Dogs or Pies will be lucky to get that in two seasons.

How do we get decent mids if we refuse to let go players that have an interest from other clubs? Obviously no one wants our inside mids or our stockpile of HBFs.

I believe whoever has been made coach is aware of Bruce & Carlisle being made available for trades, it is most likely Ratten. It's obviously not B.M.. Whoever that coach is believes, in conjunction with our recruiters, that both can be covered and will realise our trade needs.

N.B.: I have to believe that or else the next coach has been severely & negligently undermined.

[CQ SAINT]

Bruce will kick 60-70 goals with the delivery he’ll get from the Doggies mids.

Early 2nd round pick is probably the best we can hope for IMHO, anything less I’d say no deal.

Jeremy Cameron would be very happy Bruce left GWS then. He couldn't kick 70 this year.

Really, I don’t believe I compared him to Cameron but what ever rocks your boat.

I’m sure Cameron would’ve kicked 70+ had GWS
had all their best mids available all year.

You didn't compare him to Cameron. You elevated him to elite status with a prediction of 70 goals via the Bulldog mids. In the last 6 years only Josh Kennedy has kicked 70 or more goals. Bruce has managed 159 from 106 games. Seriously.

[Toy Saint]

i’ll take Tim English thank you, and deal done!!!

That will work for me too

[footynut]

i’ll take Tim English thank you, and deal done!!!

Hypothetical .. would you take him or Naughton?

sure would!!! There’s also a few others like Hunter & Macrae And add Buku Khamis as the steak knives

[saintbob]

Bruce will kick 60-70 goals with the delivery he’ll get from the Doggies mids.

Early 2nd round pick is probably the best we can hope for IMHO, anything less I’d say no deal.

Jeremy Cameron would be very happy Bruce left GWS then. He couldn't kick 70 this year.

Really, I don’t believe I compared him to Cameron but what ever rocks your boat.

I’m sure Cameron would’ve kicked 70+ had GWS
had all their best mids available all year.

You didn't compare him to Cameron. You elevated him to elite status with a prediction of 70 goals via the Bulldog mids. In the last 6 years only Josh Kennedy has kicked 70 or more goals. Bruce has managed 159 from 106 games. Seriously.

How many goals would these elite forwards you mention kick with the silver service Bruce has had to contend with for the last 3-4 years?

Geez let me think.......... I’d say they’d be on par.