Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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skeptic wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 8:49pm
Spinner wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 8:35pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 1:11am
Spinner wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 9:48pm
Premium89 wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 4:52pm
B.M wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 11:32am
This will be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. Last time I was this disgruntled with the club was 2009.
Sheesh! So everything's been going swimmingly for us since then?


Exactly... absolutely no idea.

Not happy with 2009... obviously everyone wanted a step further but disgruntled?
I do believe this is a reference to who we traded our first round pick for in that off-season... BM was very critical of the move even before it went south
If it is it’s a pretty piss poor comparison.

There is absolutely no similarities in this trade to that trade... contract, money, level of draft picks required, position.

What is it about this trade BM that compares it to 2009? Getting disturbingly murky for me...
Not to put words in BM’s mouth, but if I had to guess...
The perceived value of the incoming player in the club’s eyes

Perceived value? Ryder isn’t costing a first round pick.

What a load of bull.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Spinner wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 10:25pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 8:49pm
Spinner wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 8:35pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 1:11am
Spinner wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 9:48pm
Premium89 wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 4:52pm
B.M wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 11:32am
This will be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. Last time I was this disgruntled with the club was 2009.
Sheesh! So everything's been going swimmingly for us since then?


Exactly... absolutely no idea.

Not happy with 2009... obviously everyone wanted a step further but disgruntled?
I do believe this is a reference to who we traded our first round pick for in that off-season... BM was very critical of the move even before it went south
If it is it’s a pretty piss poor comparison.

There is absolutely no similarities in this trade to that trade... contract, money, level of draft picks required, position.

What is it about this trade BM that compares it to 2009? Getting disturbingly murky for me...
Not to put words in BM’s mouth, but if I had to guess...
The perceived value of the incoming player in the club’s eyes

Perceived value? Ryder isn’t costing a first round pick.

What a load of bull.
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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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If you had to choose between Ryder, Longer and Pierce ......

Ryder wins hands down for me. Even a washed up Ryder trumps the other 2.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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I'd rather the Saints tried for Biily Frampton from Port, has to have more upside than a washed up Ryder.

22yo and 200cm.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Zed wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 11:27pm If you had to choose between Ryder, Longer and Pierce ......

Ryder wins hands down for me. Even a washed up Ryder trumps the other 2.
Agreed. I just wonder if we could do better


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Zed wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2019 11:27pm If you had to choose between Ryder, Longer and Pierce ......

Ryder wins hands down for me. Even a washed up Ryder trumps the other 2.
Well the other two would probably not insist on being a first 22 player...

Look if Ryder was only to be back I could understand the logic. But I think Lethers has grander plans and I don't agree with what I think they are.
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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Carlton have delisted Lobbe. Would he do as a back up at Sandy? Certainly cheaper than Ryder.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Snatching chol from Richmond would have been a master stroke
Are we capable of attracting some one who is an up and comer approaching their prime and not injured...?


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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The recruiting staff have made some stupid decisions in the last 5 years but if it is true and they want Ryder this takes the cake. Forget about about trading old players full stop. This only works for top 4 teams. We are a bottom 4 team. Why not scour the state leagues and grab a 24 year old that would be over the moon if they got a shot. They will be on minimum wage and happy to play for Sandy and step up if Marshall gets injured. This crap about Ryder would be a great mentor for Marshal is crap. He has coaches that are his mentors (Lade) especially.

If they go ahead and get Ryder this just confirms that we really are a.......

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If we keep recruiting old guys every year we will not play finals for another 8 years.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Hopefully he goes to Essendon.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Linton Lodger wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 10:22am This means we're gong to trade Bruce.
Has anyone asked Bruce how he feels about being traded.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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ace wrote: Sat 31 Aug 2019 4:12pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2019 10:22am This means we're gong to trade Bruce.
Has anyone asked Bruce how he feels about being traded.
Bruce was doorstopped at RSEA Park during the week.
He looked quite taken aback and didn't hide his scowl when he said
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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Lets hope we don't trade Bruce and get Ryder.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Would prefer Sam Jacobs on our list but only playing if Marshall is injured


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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I’d prefer Jenkins or Archie Smith


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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To be honest I’d prefer Goldstein.

Would cost nothing and even though you have a structure issue... I’ve yet to see a better solution


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Paddy Ryder will cost pick 60+ & a 2 x 400-500k contract. As a redundancy for Marshall & who can also play forward it’s a no brainer selection. I don’t get the fuss. I also imagine the club will be looking at a <21 year old developing ruckman.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Anything that involves Rowan spending time out of the ruck is so stupid it’s hard to contemplate

He’s about to win a b&f playing in that position


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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B.M wrote: Sat 31 Aug 2019 8:06pm Anything that involves Rowan spending time out of the ruck is so stupid it’s hard to contemplate

He’s about to win a b&f playing in that position
I don’t believe getting Ryder would mean Marshall spends more time away from the ruck. This year Marshall was in the top 3-4 ruckman in the competition. He has built up some decent credits. But if he gets injured who rucks? Pierce & Longer were delisted so that means Bruce, Carlisle & Acres are our current redundancy.

The club could instead focus their attention to Lobbe or Zac Clarke but they are worse than Longer. At least Ryder is good around the ground, can take a grab & spend time up forward. He would be a short term 2 year stop gap & nothing more. He will come cheap in terms of picks & salary.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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Do you think that’s what Ryder’s thinking.

He wants to leave Port because he’s not #1 and they found out (as we will) two ruckmen do not work.

Ryder is a useless forward


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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B.M wrote: Sat 31 Aug 2019 8:27pm Do you think that’s what Ryder’s thinking.

He wants to leave Port because he’s not #1 and they found out (as we will) two ruckmen do not work.

Ryder is a useless forward
The pitch would include both Marshall & Ryder in the 22. If that doesn’t work then Ryder plays at Sandy & is backup. Simple.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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B.M wrote: Sat 31 Aug 2019 8:27pm Do you think that’s what Ryder’s thinking.

He wants to leave Port because he’s not #1 and they found out (as we will) two ruckmen do not work.

Ryder is a useless forward
Dude, how about using the quote function?

No one kmows who the f*** you're talking to.


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

Post: # 1821562Post Scollop »

Have we offfered a contract to Mabior Chol? Is he gettable? Can we offer anything to the Tigers? Tell them we've got a 3rd round pick and if that's not enough tell them we'd be willing to take back Mav. :wink: :D


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

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BarryGrogan wrote: Sat 31 Aug 2019 8:49pm
B.M wrote: Sat 31 Aug 2019 8:27pm Do you think that’s what Ryder’s thinking.

He wants to leave Port because he’s not #1 and they found out (as we will) two ruckmen do not work.

Ryder is a useless forward
Dude, how about using the quote function?

No one kmows who the f*** you're talking to.
I thought BM was responding to MG. I could be wrong but it seemed like a continuous conversation and BM replied to MG's posts twice and within a short space of time. Are you sure no one knows are are you having a lend?


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Re: Ryder to Saints (two year deal)

Post: # 1821567Post B.M »

Doesn’t take much intelligence to work out who I was replying to... and no, I don’t quote, haven’t done in 20 years.

If you can’t work out who I’m replying to in the thread, you’re either dumb or to lazy to read


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