Robert Eddy fun fact!

[SaintPav]

Armo copped a knee injury in 2010 as well.

[Ghost Like]

Every time I see Stuv kick goals like he did when we played him as a forward last week I think of what could have been in 2009/2010.

You have a guy like Jack Steven available back then and sitting in stands. Instead, our genius coach plonks Eddy or Dempster in the forward line as a taggers/defenders. Unbelievable!! This was one of the main reasons that we lost grand finals.

So the footy is in the vicinity of your forward half, but you have been instructed to make sure you defend. Goals can only occur incidently or if they are as a result of a dirct kick to your planned target go to tall forwad. Ludicrous!! How'about selecting forwards that play with natiral instincts and actually want to win the footy and kick a bloody goal!!

Yeah but he is still a genius and a great coach

10000%. Imagine having Jack Steven and David Armitage in our 2009 and 2010 GF teams instead of say, Eddy and McQualter.

Fv%k.

That is salivating Saintmatt. My "what ifs / imaginings" include Judd, Cyril & Jack Riewoldt being on that list instead of Ball, McEvoy & Armo (if my dodgy memory is correct).

[saynta]

Jack was named as an emergency I believe in the grand final. So pretty difficult to go with the 'he was injured' line and that's why he wasn't selected

When I first joined the forum I had a running battle with plugger66 who kept pushing the theme that Jack had OP. Most of the stuff plugger66 posted was apologist myth to counter the arguments.

I remember seeing him and the other emergency..? Armo or Geary....can't remember ...having a kick to kick out on the ground prior to the game...so as usual plugger 66 was full of s***..
.

[Bowey Boy]

Was in the team to play an incredibly specific role, as was McQualter.

Punching bag, a role played with excellence by one J.Shanahan in 1997.

[skeptic]

Every time I see Stuv kick goals like he did when we played him as a forward last week I think of what could have been in 2009/2010.

You have a guy like Jack Steven available back then and sitting in stands. Instead, our genius coach plonks Eddy or Dempster in the forward line as a taggers/defenders. Unbelievable!! This was one of the main reasons that we lost grand finals.

So the footy is in the vicinity of your forward half, but you have been instructed to make sure you defend. Goals can only occur incidently or if they are as a result of a dirct kick to your planned target go to tall forwad. Ludicrous!! How'about selecting forwards that play with natiral instincts and actually want to win the footy and kick a bloody goal!!

Yeah but he is still a genius and a great coach

Steven had OP I believe.

This is the line that apologists have been clinging too since 2010 even post David Mission’s book when our then fitness guy specifically debunks it.

The tough reality is that when looking the rhyme and reason to our lack of success, some people look at the things that our club has control over and the bad decisions we’ve made...and they demand the club get better

Others like to zero in hyperbolic scenarios like injury curses and umpiring conspiracies... they unfortunately inhibit our ability to improve.

[saynta]

Emergencies for grand final teams

2009: Armitage, Geary and Gwilt.

2010: Geary, McEvoy and Stanley.

Replay: Geary Stanley and Armitage.

[kosifantutti]

So Plugger was right.

[saynta]

So Plugger was right.

No. Just means others were preferred by that flog Lyin.

[Spinner]

Every time I see Stuv kick goals like he did when we played him as a forward last week I think of what could have been in 2009/2010.

You have a guy like Jack Steven available back then and sitting in stands. Instead, our genius coach plonks Eddy or Dempster in the forward line as a taggers/defenders. Unbelievable!! This was one of the main reasons that we lost grand finals.

So the footy is in the vicinity of your forward half, but you have been instructed to make sure you defend. Goals can only occur incidently or if they are as a result of a dirct kick to your planned target go to tall forwad. Ludicrous!! How'about selecting forwards that play with natiral instincts and actually want to win the footy and kick a bloody goal!!

Yeah but he is still a genius and a great coach

Steven had OP I believe.

Exactly.

[Spinner]

The superstar role player and Desciple of the Lyin played only 33 games.

His illustrious career included 9 finals!!

Oh the days of finals!

How many Grand Finals? Miss those days...

[SaintPav]

The superstar role player and Desciple of the Lyin played only 33 games.

His illustrious career included 9 finals!!

Oh the days of finals!

How many Grand Finals? Miss those days...

Finals?

What's that?

[Spinner]

The superstar role player and Desciple of the Lyin played only 33 games.

His illustrious career included 9 finals!!

Oh the days of finals!

How many Grand Finals? Miss those days...

Finals?

What's that?

Those things that give you a shot at the big dance.

Maybe someone needs to start a thread called ‘Finals fun fact’ instead of ‘Eddy fun fact’ to remind us all.

[skeptic]

Outside of Raph Clarke, we had a full list to choose from

[Trixilver]

Every time I see Stuv kick goals like he did when we played him as a forward last week I think of what could have been in 2009/2010.

You have a talented young speedster like Jack Steven available back then and sitting in stands. Instead, our genius coach plonks Eddy or Dempster in the forward line as a taggers/defenders. Unbelievable!! This was one of the main reasons that we lost grand finals.

So the footy is in the vicinity of your forward half, but you have been instructed to make sure you defend. Goals can only occur incidently or if they are as a result of a dirct kick to your planned target go to tall forwad. Ludicrous!! How'about selecting forwards that play with natiral instincts and actually want to win the footy and kick a bloody goal!!

Yeah but he is still a genius and a great coach

To make it worse Steven kicked 3 in his AFL debut against the cats in 2010.

[B.M]

What was Plugger right with?

That Steven had OP in 09 or 10?

He played ok at Sandy for someone with OP... and why would he be playing at all with OP

Armo should definitely played 2009
Steven in 2010

[SaintPav]

Every time I see Stuv kick goals like he did when we played him as a forward last week I think of what could have been in 2009/2010.

You have a talented young speedster like Jack Steven available back then and sitting in stands. Instead, our genius coach plonks Eddy or Dempster in the forward line as a taggers/defenders. Unbelievable!! This was one of the main reasons that we lost grand finals.

So the footy is in the vicinity of your forward half, but you have been instructed to make sure you defend. Goals can only occur incidently or if they are as a result of a dirct kick to your planned target go to tall forwad. Ludicrous!! How'about selecting forwards that play with natiral instincts and actually want to win the footy and kick a bloody goal!!

Yeah but he is still a genius and a great coach

To make it worse Steven kicked 3 in his AFL debut against the cats in 2010.

Pretty sure he made his debut against Hawthorn the year before. It was our 19th consecutive win.

[Josh Battle]

Emergencies for grand final teams

2009: Armitage, Geary and Gwilt.

2010: Geary, McEvoy and Stanley.

Replay: Geary Stanley and Armitage.

Sorry but your 2010 group is wrong

I've googled several sites including saints.com and they have J Steven as an emergency in 2010

[Josh Battle]

What was Plugger right with?

That Steven had OP in 09 or 10?

He played ok at Sandy for someone with OP... and why would he be playing at all with OP

Armo should definitely played 2009
Steven in 2010

Spot on

Lyon should have utilised the whole list more in both years. We went into the 2010 GF with Dal Santo injured and Gramm looked like he was also injured

[skeptic]

I think whichever way you splice it up... as good as he did to get us there, RL absolutely butchered GF selection in both 09 and 10

[skeptic]

Emergencies for grand final teams

2009: Armitage, Geary and Gwilt.

2010: Geary, McEvoy and Stanley.

Replay: Geary Stanley and Armitage.

Sorry but your 2010 group is wrong

I've googled several sites including saints.com and they have J Steven as an emergency in 2010

Like I said, many RL apologists have run with the Steven OP line for years to justify what was just plain woeful selection.
Lyon chose Eddy and Dempster as forwards ahead of Armitage and Steven.

Master coach or not he absolutely bellied up there

[saynta]

Emergencies for grand final teams

2009: Armitage, Geary and Gwilt.

2010: Geary, McEvoy and Stanley.

Replay: Geary Stanley and Armitage.

Sorry but your 2010 group is wrong

I've googled several sites including saints.com and they have J Steven as an emergency in 2010

Well, I hope you are right because I kinda remember him having a kick with armo pre game, but that was the result IA got off google


"https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl ... 15oju.html
Saturday September 25
Collingwood v St Kilda at the MCG, 2.30pm AEST

Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Simon Prestigiacomo, Alan Toovey
HB: Harry O'Brien, Ben Reid, Heath Shaw
C: Sharrod Wellingham, Dane Swan, Ben Johnson
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Luke Ball
F: Dayne Beams, Chris Dawes, Steele Sidebottom
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C: Jarryd Blair, Leigh Brown, Brent Macaffer, Leon Davis
Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Tyson Goldsack, Nathan Brown

In: Davis, Prestigiacomo
Out: Tyson Goldsack, Nathan Brown

St Kilda
B: Jason Gram, Zac Dawson, Sam Gilbert
HB: Jason Blake, Sam Fisher, Robert Eddy
C: Brendon Goddard, Nick Dal Santo, Farren Ray
HF: Brett Peake, Justin Koschitzke, Leigh Montagna
F: Adam Schneider, Nick Riewoldt, Stephen Milne
Foll: Michael Gardiner, Lenny Hayes, Clinton Jones
I/C: Sean Dempster, Andrew McQualter, James Gwilt, Steven Baker
Emg: Jarryn Geary, Ben McEvoy, Rhys Stanley

In: Baker
Out: Ben McEvoy

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2010-09- ... -announced


2010 Toyota AFL Grand Final Replay - Collingwood v St Kilda
Saturday 2nd October, 2:30pm at the MCG

The Saints have named their final team who will once again take on Collingwood in the 2010 Grand Final Replay this Saturday at the MCG.

With only one change in the team that drew with Collingwood last weekend, Michael Gardiner has been unable to overcome a hamstring injury which sidelined him during the first half of last weekend’s game. Young ruckman Ben McEvoy will come in to replace his mentor to complete the 22 players for the game.

Please see the full St Kilda team list below;

Followers: Ben McEvoy / Lenny Hayes / Clinton Jones
Interchange: Andrew McQualter / James Gwilt / Steven Baker / Sean Dempster
Emergencies: Jarryn Geary / Rhys Stanley / David Armitage

In: B.McEvoy
Out: M.Gardiner (hamstring)

[Spinner]

Perspective for the delusional.

Bickering over GF selections on players that weren’t in the best 22 all season (and confusing their form with their form in later years).

Meanwhile this mob just lost to Carlton, 10 years on & no finals campaigns since 2011.

[saintspremiers]

Fun Fact:

St Kilda has played 175 games since their last finals match.

[B.M]

Spinner

Armo
3 Brownlow votes
R19 2009

Highest StK player in Sandringham B&F 2009 he was 21 and in good form. But Ross did not show any faith in him.

Let’s face it, Ross botched selection and it may have been the difference between winning and losing. He also botched it in the box on GF day.

[saynta]

Perspective for the delusional.

Bickering over GF selections on players that weren’t in the best 22 all season (and confusing their form with their form in later years).

Meanwhile this mob just lost to Carlton, 10 years on & no finals campaigns since 2011.

Ow, nasty.