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The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
The Peanut wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 11:31am
She made a few shockers but will hopefully learn from them - that's my take because we won. I might have been a little harder if we lost.
We won, no thanks to the maggots who tried their hardest to make sure we didn't.
Seems to be a habit with them when we play the shockers.
Not sure if you’re just baiting, repeating stuff like this by rote or you actually think about it and genuinely believe it. Don’t think there’s much thinking going on there. I think it’s just a bit of sport for you. Abusing the umps is some kind of tradition.
Whichever it is, the notion that the umps tried their hardest to make sure we didn’t win is just silly. Why is it that people feel the need to continually point the finger at the umpires and posit that they are deliberately favouring the other side?
Don’t people realise that on every fan forum for every team there are posters doing exactly the same thing. There will be people on the Dockers site claiming exactly the same thing. And the Bummers, and the Filth etc etc etc. And everyone is equally convinced that they are right and all the others are wrong.
It’s a bit like religious people claiming their God is the only one and the correct one without taking into account that other religions are doing exactly the same thing.
st.byron wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 11:43am
It’s a bit like religious people claiming their God is the only one and the correct one without taking into account that other religions are doing exactly the same thing.
Careful - that's how wars start.
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
No again you are incorrect the tackle was fair when the player dropped the ball and he was pinned. The tackle slipped up after the ball was dropped. Learn the rules.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
No again you are incorrect the tackle was fair when the player dropped the ball and he was pinned. The tackle slipped up after the ball was dropped. Learn the rules.
If the tackle slipped up, then it sounds like a high tackle...
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
No again you are incorrect the tackle was fair when the player dropped the ball and he was pinned. The tackle slipped up after the ball was dropped. Learn the rules.
If the tackle slipped up, then it sounds like a high tackle...
If he has been tackled fairly then drops the ball and the umpire blows his whistle for incorrect disposal then the tackle slips the first free is awarded. Learn the rules.
The Peanut wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 11:31am
She made a few shockers but will hopefully learn from them - that's my take because we won. I might have been a little harder if we lost.
We won, no thanks to the maggots who tried their hardest to make sure we didn't.
Seems to be a habit with them when we play the shockers.
Not sure if you’re just baiting, repeating stuff like this by rote or you actually think about it and genuinely believe it. Don’t think there’s much thinking going on there. I think it’s just a bit of sport for you. Abusing the umps is some kind of tradition.
Whichever it is, the notion that the umps tried their hardest to make sure we didn’t win is just silly. Why is it that people feel the need to continually point the finger at the umpires and posit that they are deliberately favouring the other side?
Don’t people realise that on every fan forum for every team there are posters doing exactly the same thing. There will be people on the Dockers site claiming exactly the same thing. And the Bummers, and the Filth etc etc etc. And everyone is equally convinced that they are right and all the others are wrong.
It’s a bit like religious people claiming their God is the only one and the correct one without taking into account that other religions are doing exactly the same thing.
Another offensive post from you st b, having a go at me. You seem to make a habit of it. Been doing it for years actually.
Of course I believe they cheat, play favorites and advantage their more favoured teams. They like you make a habit of offensive practices.
Don't believe me, then have a look a the statistics for this year and the previous 10.
You seem to be even denying the whispers in the sky farce.
f***, I don't know why I bother.
Bringing god into your argument is the last straw afaic.
outside66 wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 10:58am
I don't think there's been a game where everyone goes home happy with the umpiring. There are s*** calls/non-calls every week and yesterday was no exception. I wonder whether there would still be the same amount of vitriol directed towards Eleni if she happened to be a bloke instead? Doubt it...
15,000 to 18,000 people were all wrong then. in your eyes.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
No again you are incorrect the tackle was fair when the player dropped the ball and he was pinned. The tackle slipped up after the ball was dropped. Learn the rules.
If the tackle slipped up, then it sounds like a high tackle...
If he has been tackled fairly then drops the ball and the umpire blows his whistle for incorrect disposal then the tackle slips the first free is awarded. Learn the rules.
Ah sorry, wasn’t aware you were allowed to belt someone around the head as long as they didn’t have the ball
Lol
The tackle must be completed fairly, the tackle doesn’t ‘end’ half way through (if that’s even what happened), just like you can’t fall in their back after you run them down from behind.
Pretty simple really, try prising that other eye open and you might have a better idea about umpiring, and save the rest of your crap for the locals.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
st.byron wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 11:43am
It’s a bit like religious people claiming their God is the only one and the correct one without taking into account that other religions are doing exactly the same thing.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
No again you are incorrect the tackle was fair when the player dropped the ball and he was pinned. The tackle slipped up after the ball was dropped. Learn the rules.
If the tackle slipped up, then it sounds like a high tackle...
If he has been tackled fairly then drops the ball and the umpire blows his whistle for incorrect disposal then the tackle slips the first free is awarded. Learn the rules.
Ah sorry, wasn’t aware you were allowed to belt someone around the head as long as they didn’t have the ball
Lol
The tackle must be completed fairly, the tackle doesn’t ‘end’ half way through (if that’s even what happened), just like you can’t fall in their back after you run them down from behind.
Pretty simple really, try prising that other eye open and you might have a better idea about umpiring, and save the rest of your crap for the locals.
The free was already paid dud. The tackle was performed legally when he disposed incorrectly the tackle was very slightly high after the initial free was awarded. Learn the rules.
The Peanut wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 11:31am
She made a few shockers but will hopefully learn from them - that's my take because we won. I might have been a little harder if we lost.
We won, no thanks to the maggots who tried their hardest to make sure we didn't.
Seems to be a habit with them when we play the shockers.
Not sure if you’re just baiting, repeating stuff like this by rote or you actually think about it and genuinely believe it. Don’t think there’s much thinking going on there. I think it’s just a bit of sport for you. Abusing the umps is some kind of tradition.
Whichever it is, the notion that the umps tried their hardest to make sure we didn’t win is just silly. Why is it that people feel the need to continually point the finger at the umpires and posit that they are deliberately favouring the other side?
Don’t people realise that on every fan forum for every team there are posters doing exactly the same thing. There will be people on the Dockers site claiming exactly the same thing. And the Bummers, and the Filth etc etc etc. And everyone is equally convinced that they are right and all the others are wrong.
It’s a bit like religious people claiming their God is the only one and the correct one without taking into account that other religions are doing exactly the same thing.
Another offensive post from you st b, having a go at me. You seem to make a habit of it. Been doing it for years actually.
Of course I believe they cheat, play favorites and advantage their more favoured teams. They like you make a habit of offensive practices.
Don't believe me, then have a look a the statistics for this year and the previous 10.
You seem to be even denying the whispers in the sky farce.
f***, I don't know why I bother.
Bringing god into your argument is the last straw afaic.
Dude, you’re so reactive. It’s just a curious observation.
Why do you want to continue with the “umps are against us” kind of paradigm?
You’re an educated bloke who’s been around a while. Do you really think that all the fans on the forums of other teams are wrong and only yourself and others on here are right? That the Saints are the ones that are actually victims of deliberate cheating? It just strikes me that there isn’t much thought about it at all - like it’s just a knee jerk reaction that’s been practised for years. “The F*&%$#* Umpires yada yada yada........” It’s a cultural meme in footy, but that doesn’t mean it has any basis in actual reality.
Bringing God into it is just an observation about the similarity in the way belief systems apply across cultural types - footy, religion, politics. The same belief and thinking systems appear across the board.
re the stats... I posted something a few weeks back that shows how umpiring is just swings and roundabouts...when I have time I’ll find it and re-post it.
The Peanut wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 11:31am
She made a few shockers but will hopefully learn from them - that's my take because we won. I might have been a little harder if we lost.
We won, no thanks to the maggots who tried their hardest to make sure we didn't.
Seems to be a habit with them when we play the shockers.
Not sure if you’re just baiting, repeating stuff like this by rote or you actually think about it and genuinely believe it. Don’t think there’s much thinking going on there. I think it’s just a bit of sport for you. Abusing the umps is some kind of tradition.
Whichever it is, the notion that the umps tried their hardest to make sure we didn’t win is just silly. Why is it that people feel the need to continually point the finger at the umpires and posit that they are deliberately favouring the other side?
Don’t people realise that on every fan forum for every team there are posters doing exactly the same thing. There will be people on the Dockers site claiming exactly the same thing. And the Bummers, and the Filth etc etc etc. And everyone is equally convinced that they are right and all the others are wrong.
It’s a bit like religious people claiming their God is the only one and the correct one without taking into account that other religions are doing exactly the same thing.
Another offensive post from you st b, having a go at me. You seem to make a habit of it. Been doing it for years actually.
Of course I believe they cheat, play favorites and advantage their more favoured teams. They like you make a habit of offensive practices.
Don't believe me, then have a look a the statistics for this year and the previous 10.
You seem to be even denying the whispers in the sky farce.
f***, I don't know why I bother.
Bringing god into your argument is the last straw afaic.
Dude, you’re so reactive. It’s just a curious observation.
Why do you want to continue with the “umps are against us” kind of paradigm?
You’re an educated bloke who’s been around a while. Do you really think that all the fans on the forums of other teams are wrong and only yourself and others on here are right? That the Saints are the ones that are actually victims of deliberate cheating? It just strikes me that there isn’t much thought about it at all - like it’s just a knee jerk reaction that’s been practised for years. “The F*&%$#* Umpires yada yada yada........” It’s a cultural meme in footy, but that doesn’t mean it has any basis in actual reality.
Bringing God into it is just an observation about the similarity in the way belief systems apply across cultural types - footy, religion, politics. The same belief and thinking systems appear across the board.
re the stats... I posted something a few weeks back that shows how umpiring is just swings and roundabouts...when I have time I’ll find it and re-post it.
The majority of AFL umps are shithouse these days. They were better in the old days if we are honest when there was only 1 or 2 of them running around.
They are fit these days and think they're celebrities like the footballers but overall, many are simply bad decision makers.
Posters that have admitted they were wrong about Hanna's gastro and the club didn't create a cover story.
Total = 1.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
No again you are incorrect the tackle was fair when the player dropped the ball and he was pinned. The tackle slipped up after the ball was dropped. Learn the rules.
If the tackle slipped up, then it sounds like a high tackle...
If he has been tackled fairly then drops the ball and the umpire blows his whistle for incorrect disposal then the tackle slips the first free is awarded. Learn the rules.
Ah sorry, wasn’t aware you were allowed to belt someone around the head as long as they didn’t have the ball
Lol
The tackle must be completed fairly, the tackle doesn’t ‘end’ half way through (if that’s even what happened), just like you can’t fall in their back after you run them down from behind.
Pretty simple really, try prising that other eye open and you might have a better idea about umpiring, and save the rest of your crap for the locals.
The free was already paid dud. The tackle was performed legally when he disposed incorrectly the tackle was very slightly high after the initial free was awarded. Learn the rules.
Gee whiz, that’s some split second umpiring! Those guys truly are skilled!
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:07pm
What a pathetic thread.
Was hardly a terribly umpired game, with only a few howlers which were a number of the umps.
And if you’re claiming Mundy was swung 720 degrees by Carlisle then you are outright lying. And you want credibility in judging some else’s performance
And let’s not overlook that Ross was swung 360 degrees in a better tackle half way through the last and that wasn’t paid either. Funny how no one is talking about that
A number of poster went into the game with an agenda to attack her no matter what. This thread is no surprise.
When Dunstan got smashed before taking the ball the commentators all said that has been a free in every other game this year. So why not to Dunstan? Clear view no one in the way the umpire chose to ignore it.
Mundy was also a free.
The Dunstan in the back again impossible to miss.
When the Freo player was tackled dropped the ball and one umpire awarded us a free and Eleni over ruled and paid high that was also a blatant mistake.
As I previously said, Dunstan had two bad ones go against him, just like Matera 100% should have got a 50 but didn’t.
Apart from those 3, the umpiring was fine.
Mundy was not holding the ball.
Eleni paying the high tackle was 100% correct, the tackle was high.
Not surprised you’re so clueless regarding umpiring as usual, must be hard seeing straight being so one-eyed.
No again you are incorrect the tackle was fair when the player dropped the ball and he was pinned. The tackle slipped up after the ball was dropped. Learn the rules.
If the tackle slipped up, then it sounds like a high tackle...
If he has been tackled fairly then drops the ball and the umpire blows his whistle for incorrect disposal then the tackle slips the first free is awarded. Learn the rules.
Ah sorry, wasn’t aware you were allowed to belt someone around the head as long as they didn’t have the ball
Lol
The tackle must be completed fairly, the tackle doesn’t ‘end’ half way through (if that’s even what happened), just like you can’t fall in their back after you run them down from behind.
Pretty simple really, try prising that other eye open and you might have a better idea about umpiring, and save the rest of your crap for the locals.
The free was already paid dud. The tackle was performed legally when he disposed incorrectly the tackle was very slightly high after the initial free was awarded. Learn the rules.
Gee whiz, that’s some split second umpiring! Those guys truly are skilled!
I reckon CURLY is right regarding the rules. If the arm slips up after the ball has spilled, that’s a fair tackle and the free should be paid to the tackler even if his arm slips up later.
I thought the tackle was high to start with but it could have gone either way.
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If that is the incident, clearly has his hand on top of his shoulder while the ball is in his possession. Could have gone either way, no where near a bad or shocking decision.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
An Eleni is an Umpire for the AFL who bears the gender moniker of XX - she should be subject to the standard level of criticism - no more - no less - than that afforded to her fellow umpires bearing the gender moniker of XY.
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
The_Dud wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 1:14pm
If that is the incident, clearly has his hand on top of his shoulder while the ball is in his possession. Could have gone either way, no where near a bad or shocking decision.
The issue is the designation high tackle.
I campaign for a term 'dangerous tackle'. Fair enough that it opens the Umpire up to the decision if a tackle goes high - does it become dangerous? But the Umpire will be in a better place to adjudicate the decision than if they have to determine what part of the shoulder/upper arm is touched. We are all aware of a dangerous tackle as opposed to a tiggy touchwood one.
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
The Peanut wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 11:31am
She made a few shockers but will hopefully learn from them - that's my take because we won. I might have been a little harder if we lost.
We won, no thanks to the maggots who tried their hardest to make sure we didn't.
Seems to be a habit with them when we play the shockers.
Not sure if you’re just baiting, repeating stuff like this by rote or you actually think about it and genuinely believe it. Don’t think there’s much thinking going on there. I think it’s just a bit of sport for you. Abusing the umps is some kind of tradition.
Whichever it is, the notion that the umps tried their hardest to make sure we didn’t win is just silly. Why is it that people feel the need to continually point the finger at the umpires and posit that they are deliberately favouring the other side?
Don’t people realise that on every fan forum for every team there are posters doing exactly the same thing. There will be people on the Dockers site claiming exactly the same thing. And the Bummers, and the Filth etc etc etc. And everyone is equally convinced that they are right and all the others are wrong.
It’s a bit like religious people claiming their God is the only one and the correct one without taking into account that other religions are doing exactly the same thing.
Another offensive post from you st b, having a go at me. You seem to make a habit of it. Been doing it for years actually.
Of course I believe they cheat, play favorites and advantage their more favoured teams. They like you make a habit of offensive practices.
Don't believe me, then have a look a the statistics for this year and the previous 10.
You seem to be even denying the whispers in the sky farce.
f***, I don't know why I bother.
Bringing god into your argument is the last straw afaic.
Dude, you’re so reactive. It’s just a curious observation.
Why do you want to continue with the “umps are against us” kind of paradigm?
You’re an educated bloke who’s been around a while. Do you really think that all the fans on the forums of other teams are wrong and only yourself and others on here are right? That the Saints are the ones that are actually victims of deliberate cheating? It just strikes me that there isn’t much thought about it at all - like it’s just a knee jerk reaction that’s been practised for years. “The F*&%$#* Umpires yada yada yada........” It’s a cultural meme in footy, but that doesn’t mean it has any basis in actual reality.
Bringing God into it is just an observation about the similarity in the way belief systems apply across cultural types - footy, religion, politics. The same belief and thinking systems appear across the board.
re the stats... I posted something a few weeks back that shows how umpiring is just swings and roundabouts...when I have time I’ll find it and re-post it.
Big big yawn,
Don't bother reposting any of your crap.
Mate, there was no intention to offend. Sorry if it offended. Just wondering why otherwise educated people continue on with that yada yada about umpires.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 1:14pm
If that is the incident, clearly has his hand on top of his shoulder while the ball is in his possession. Could have gone either way, no where near a bad or shocking decision.
The issue is the designation high tackle.
I campaign for a term 'dangerous tackle'. Fair enough that it opens the Umpire up to the decision if a tackle goes high - does it become dangerous? But the Umpire will be in a better place to adjudicate the decision than if they have to determine what part of the shoulder/upper arm is touched. We are all aware of a dangerous tackle as opposed to a tiggy touchwood one.
Hmmm, I think you’re just opening them up to more trouble by adding more interpretation. High tackles should be a simple one; did they tackle them above the shoulder? Yes or no. Simple (in theory)
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The_Dud wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 1:14pm
If that is the incident, clearly has his hand on top of his shoulder while the ball is in his possession. Could have gone either way, no where near a bad or shocking decision.
The issue is the designation high tackle.
I campaign for a term 'dangerous tackle'. Fair enough that it opens the Umpire up to the decision if a tackle goes high - does it become dangerous? But the Umpire will be in a better place to adjudicate the decision than if they have to determine what part of the shoulder/upper arm is touched. We are all aware of a dangerous tackle as opposed to a tiggy touchwood one.
Hmmm, I think you’re just opening them up to more trouble by adding more interpretation. High tackles should be a simple one; did they tackle them above the shoulder? Yes or no. Simple (in theory)
But not simple in application - it appears that we allow tackles that start correct and are slid up by the tacklee - or maybe they get paid - depends of the interpretation - if a tackle is dangerous - it is pretty obvious
Oh - BTW - what the f@rk happened to 'Kicking in Danger'?
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The_Dud wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 1:14pm
If that is the incident, clearly has his hand on top of his shoulder while the ball is in his possession. Could have gone either way, no where near a bad or shocking decision.
The issue is the designation high tackle.
I campaign for a term 'dangerous tackle'. Fair enough that it opens the Umpire up to the decision if a tackle goes high - does it become dangerous? But the Umpire will be in a better place to adjudicate the decision than if they have to determine what part of the shoulder/upper arm is touched. We are all aware of a dangerous tackle as opposed to a tiggy touchwood one.
Hmmm, I think you’re just opening them up to more trouble by adding more interpretation. High tackles should be a simple one; did they tackle them above the shoulder? Yes or no. Simple (in theory)
But not simple in application - it appears that we allow tackles that start correct and are slid up by the tacklee - or maybe they get paid - depends of the interpretation - if a tackle is dangerous - it is pretty obvious
Oh - BTW - what the f@rk happened to 'Kicking in Danger'?
I think this just demonstrates how difficult a game AFL is to umpire. As the exact same incident can be interpreted totally different ways.
And yeah, they seem to have gone right off kicking in danger more recently unless it’s a really bad one.
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The_Dud wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 1:35pm
And yeah, they seem to have gone right off kicking in danger more recently unless it’s a really bad one.
You mean like the player exiting the contest wringing their hand - lol - NOT PAID!!!!!!!
Oh how we yearn for the days of 1 Umpire - 1 interpretation - one person to boo - one set of missed decisions - but usually the umpiring was either good - or shocking - FOR BOTH TEAMS!
(I say usually - because even then their were Umpires that conspired against us - especially for all of the 70's and 80's)
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
outside66 wrote: ↑Mon 12 Aug 2019 10:58am
I don't think there's been a game where everyone goes home happy with the umpiring. There are s*** calls/non-calls every week and yesterday was no exception. I wonder whether there would still be the same amount of vitriol directed towards Eleni if she happened to be a bloke instead? Doubt it...
15,000 to 18,000 people were all wrong then. in your eyes.
