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The_Dud wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 6:54pm
saynta wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 2:13pm I have never ever been asked to pay upfront but have had a taxi speed off when the driver have seen that one of my party was indigenous in appearance.

Racist pricks.
White privilege at work.

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'White privilege'? Just about every cabbie is either Indian or Muslim


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Furphy wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 5:53am
The_Dud wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 6:54pm
saynta wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 2:13pm I have never ever been asked to pay upfront but have had a taxi speed off when the driver have seen that one of my party was indigenous in appearance.

Racist pricks.
White privilege at work.

;)
'White privilege'? Just about every cabbie is either Indian or Muslim
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Nah. Mostly Indian these days.

They used to be Greeks and Italians plus some Aussies when I was kid. At least they knew the Melbourne road network and didn't try and rip you off or not take you because the trip wasn't long enough.

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Ape_Man wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 1:23am
The_Dud wrote:
saynta wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 7:27pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 6:54pm
saynta wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 2:13pm I have never ever been asked to pay upfront but have had a taxi speed off when the driver have seen that one of my party was indigenous in appearance.

Racist pricks.
White privilege at work.

;)
Don't think there are many taxi drivers with your so called white privileged background . :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
I wasn’t talking about the taxi driver.

White privilege means never having a taxi driver refuse you service purely because of the colour of your skin Image
Are you taking the piss here?

I know many people that could not get a taxi due to the colour of their skin.
I know many people that have been refused taxis because of the state they were in or their carry on.

I've been asked to pay up front or part there of.

I love Nicky so let's wait to see how this transpires. If you get asked to pay upfront, which they can legally request, pay it or get out. No need to assault someone who is doing a s*** job for moderate return.


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Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.


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saynta wrote:Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
That’s just a guess.


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:57am Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
Precisely. 👍


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This is actually far more depressing than the Richo dismissal.

I really hope there is nothing in this and Cuz will be okay. Nicky is my all time favourite player, along with Barks.


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Sainternist wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 5:44pm This is actually far more depressing than the Richo dismissal.

I really hope there is nothing in this and Cuz will be okay. Nicky is my all time favourite player, along with Barks.
Evidently from the newspaper reports I have read, the taxi driver was also trying to rip him off by pre -charging an exorbitant amount for a 20 minute trip.

Wouldn't be a first .

Probably deserved a good kicking.


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 5:47pm
Sainternist wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 5:44pm This is actually far more depressing than the Richo dismissal.

I really hope there is nothing in this and Cuz will be okay. Nicky is my all time favourite player, along with Barks.
Evidently from the newspaper reports I have read, the taxi driver was also trying to rip him off by pre -charging an exorbitant amount for a 20 minute trip.

Wouldn't be a first .

Probably deserved a good kicking.
Maybe his driver was Travis Bickle?

Cabbies have a bad reputation for a reason. I was stoked the day Uber and other types of services were introduced, because since then I have hardly ever had to use any taxi service. Most cabbies come across as rude arseholes.


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Let's not jump to conclusions here.
We don't know the details of who said what to who.


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:57am Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
Nicky needs to get out in the sun more.
If the taxi driver had recognised Nicky as indigenous the driver would have driven him for free.
That's how it works in the Socialist Republic of Victoria.


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:57am Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
Is that what you want to believe or is that a fact?


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Convicted Winmar's jail threat
From AAP - 05oct00

3.25pm (AEDT) FORMER AFL football star Nicky Winmar, convicted and fined today for hitting his ex-wife, has been threatened with jail if he reappears in court on assault charges.

Winmar, 34, of Warburton, Victoria, was fined $3,000 for hitting his former wife on Christmas Day last year.

Melbourne Magistrates Court was told that Winmar had a distinguished career as a footballer playing for St Kilda and later the Western Bulldogs, before moving to play country football for Warburton.

He was acutely embarrassed and ashamed to be before court over what was his second assault offence, his lawyer told the court.

Senior Constable John Campbell, prosecuting, said Winmar had been invited to his ex-wife's
home to celebrate Christmas with his children last year.

He was speaking to his wife about their situation but ended up fighting with her male friend as he went to leave. The three had
been drinking goon.

As his ex-wife attempted to break up the fight, Winmar hit her on the jaw with his arm, sending her flying over a couch, leaving her with bruises.

Jonathan Kemp, defending, said Winmar had spent time in Darwin helping young footballers and promoting indigenous education, and had dedicated a great deal of energy to the community.

"He's acutely embarrassed and ashamed. It flies in the face of the role model he tries to be, not only for his own children but for other children as well," Mr Kemp said.

He said Mr Winmar was heartbroken at not having seen his children for the past eight months.

He had inspired Warburton Football Club, with whom he had been playing for the past year, to improve its performance and win a
grand final.

The court heard Winmar had been involved in another assault incident following a drinking session with a neighbour on a Melbourne
Cup day.

Magistrate Joseph Beder said that while physical violence might be tolerated on the football field it would not be tolerated in the community.

He warned Winmar that if he used violence again in the community he would face a jail sentence.

Winmar pleaded guilty to unlawful assault and breaching an intervention order today.
Mr Beder convicted and fined him $3,000.

Winmar signed autographs after his appearance but made no comment as he left the court.


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Furphy wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:29pm Convicted Winmar's jail threat
From AAP - 05oct00

3.25pm (AEDT) FORMER AFL football star Nicky Winmar, convicted and fined today for hitting his ex-wife, has been threatened with jail if he reappears in court on assault charges.

Winmar, 34, of Warburton, Victoria, was fined $3,000 for hitting his former wife on Christmas Day last year.

Melbourne Magistrates Court was told that Winmar had a distinguished career as a footballer playing for St Kilda and later the Western Bulldogs, before moving to play country football for Warburton.

He was acutely embarrassed and ashamed to be before court over what was his second assault offence, his lawyer told the court.

Senior Constable John Campbell, prosecuting, said Winmar had been invited to his ex-wife's
home to celebrate Christmas with his children last year.

He was speaking to his wife about their situation but ended up fighting with her male friend as he went to leave. The three had
been drinking goon.

As his ex-wife attempted to break up the fight, Winmar hit her on the jaw with his arm, sending her flying over a couch, leaving her with bruises.

Jonathan Kemp, defending, said Winmar had spent time in Darwin helping young footballers and promoting indigenous education, and had dedicated a great deal of energy to the community.

"He's acutely embarrassed and ashamed. It flies in the face of the role model he tries to be, not only for his own children but for other children as well," Mr Kemp said.

He said Mr Winmar was heartbroken at not having seen his children for the past eight months.

He had inspired Warburton Football Club, with whom he had been playing for the past year, to improve its performance and win a
grand final.

The court heard Winmar had been involved in another assault incident following a drinking session with a neighbour on a Melbourne
Cup day.

Magistrate Joseph Beder said that while physical violence might be tolerated on the football field it would not be tolerated in the community.

He warned Winmar that if he used violence again in the community he would face a jail sentence.

Winmar pleaded guilty to unlawful assault and breaching an intervention order today.
Mr Beder convicted and fined him $3,000.

Winmar signed autographs after his appearance but made no comment as he left the court.
Just to be clear, this article is 19 years old.


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Furphy wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:29pm Convicted Winmar's jail threat
From AAP - 05oct00

3.25pm (AEDT) FORMER AFL football star Nicky Winmar, convicted and fined today for hitting his ex-wife, has been threatened with jail if he reappears in court on assault charges.

Winmar, 34, of Warburton, Victoria, was fined $3,000 for hitting his former wife on Christmas Day last year.

Melbourne Magistrates Court was told that Winmar had a distinguished career as a footballer playing for St Kilda and later the Western Bulldogs, before moving to play country football for Warburton.

He was acutely embarrassed and ashamed to be before court over what was his second assault offence, his lawyer told the court.

Senior Constable John Campbell, prosecuting, said Winmar had been invited to his ex-wife's
home to celebrate Christmas with his children last year.

He was speaking to his wife about their situation but ended up fighting with her male friend as he went to leave. The three had
been drinking goon.

As his ex-wife attempted to break up the fight, Winmar hit her on the jaw with his arm, sending her flying over a couch, leaving her with bruises.

Jonathan Kemp, defending, said Winmar had spent time in Darwin helping young footballers and promoting indigenous education, and had dedicated a great deal of energy to the community.

"He's acutely embarrassed and ashamed. It flies in the face of the role model he tries to be, not only for his own children but for other children as well," Mr Kemp said.

He said Mr Winmar was heartbroken at not having seen his children for the past eight months.

He had inspired Warburton Football Club, with whom he had been playing for the past year, to improve its performance and win a
grand final.

The court heard Winmar had been involved in another assault incident following a drinking session with a neighbour on a Melbourne
Cup day.

Magistrate Joseph Beder said that while physical violence might be tolerated on the football field it would not be tolerated in the community.

He warned Winmar that if he used violence again in the community he would face a jail sentence.

Winmar pleaded guilty to unlawful assault and breaching an intervention order today.
Mr Beder convicted and fined him $3,000.

Winmar signed autographs after his appearance but made no comment as he left the court.
Why the f*** would you republish that article here in this day and age,

In some jurisdictions publishing domestic violence proceedings is a criminal offence.

Pity that that is not the case in Victoria.


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Ghost Like wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 6:54pm
saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:57am Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
Is that what you want to believe or is that a fact?
Are you for real, or just having a lend.


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:37pm
Furphy wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:29pm Convicted Winmar's jail threat
From AAP - 05oct00

3.25pm (AEDT) FORMER AFL football star Nicky Winmar, convicted and fined today for hitting his ex-wife, has been threatened with jail if he reappears in court on assault charges.

Winmar, 34, of Warburton, Victoria, was fined $3,000 for hitting his former wife on Christmas Day last year.

Melbourne Magistrates Court was told that Winmar had a distinguished career as a footballer playing for St Kilda and later the Western Bulldogs, before moving to play country football for Warburton.

He was acutely embarrassed and ashamed to be before court over what was his second assault offence, his lawyer told the court.

Senior Constable John Campbell, prosecuting, said Winmar had been invited to his ex-wife's
home to celebrate Christmas with his children last year.

He was speaking to his wife about their situation but ended up fighting with her male friend as he went to leave. The three had
been drinking goon.

As his ex-wife attempted to break up the fight, Winmar hit her on the jaw with his arm, sending her flying over a couch, leaving her with bruises.

Jonathan Kemp, defending, said Winmar had spent time in Darwin helping young footballers and promoting indigenous education, and had dedicated a great deal of energy to the community.

"He's acutely embarrassed and ashamed. It flies in the face of the role model he tries to be, not only for his own children but for other children as well," Mr Kemp said.

He said Mr Winmar was heartbroken at not having seen his children for the past eight months.

He had inspired Warburton Football Club, with whom he had been playing for the past year, to improve its performance and win a
grand final.

The court heard Winmar had been involved in another assault incident following a drinking session with a neighbour on a Melbourne
Cup day.

Magistrate Joseph Beder said that while physical violence might be tolerated on the football field it would not be tolerated in the community.

He warned Winmar that if he used violence again in the community he would face a jail sentence.

Winmar pleaded guilty to unlawful assault and breaching an intervention order today.
Mr Beder convicted and fined him $3,000.

Winmar signed autographs after his appearance but made no comment as he left the court.
Why the f*** would you republish that article here in this day and age,

In some jurisdictions publishing domestic violence proceedings is a criminal offence.

Pity that that is not the case in Victoria.
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Saintmatt wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2019 9:53pm
freely wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2019 8:52pm ...assaulting a cab driver who insisted on him paying up front for his journey - something that wouldn't have happened if he'd been white. oh the irony.
You don’t catch many cabs do you? Everyone has to pay upfront between 10pm and 5am.
Together with my two daughters and my granddaughter I hailed a cab on Swan Street Richmond at 12:30 am (after celebrating our win over Melbourne in round four) We all piled in and the driver simply asked me "Where to?" NO mention whatsoever of "payment upfront"


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:57am Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
You were there were you? Maybe you should appear in court and testify on Nicky's behalf


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:38pm
Ghost Like wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 6:54pm
saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:57am Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
Is that what you want to believe or is that a fact?
Are you for real, or just having a lend.
No Saynta, I'm for real. What do you actually know for fact about this incident?


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thejiggingsaint wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 10:08pm
Saintmatt wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2019 9:53pm
freely wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2019 8:52pm ...assaulting a cab driver who insisted on him paying up front for his journey - something that wouldn't have happened if he'd been white. oh the irony.
You don’t catch many cabs do you? Everyone has to pay upfront between 10pm and 5am.
Together with my two daughters and my granddaughter I hailed a cab on Swan Street Richmond at 12:30 am (after celebrating our win over Melbourne in round four) We all piled in and the driver simply asked me "Where to?" NO mention whatsoever of "payment upfront"
There's compelling 'evidence' if I ever saw it. I hope Nicky's legal team sees this


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Ghost Like wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 10:16pm
saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:38pm
Ghost Like wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 6:54pm
saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:57am Hey, lets stop beating around the f****** bush and ignoring the obvious.

Nicky was asked to pay up front because of his skin colour.
Is that what you want to believe or is that a fact?
Are you for real, or just having a lend.
No Saynta, I'm for real. What do you actually know for fact about this incident?
Nothing actually and I don't want to know anything about something that happened a generation ago.

Something that in a number of Australian jurisdictions is dealt with behind closed courts or at least has a ban on publication by anyone apart from the victim.


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I was actually asking about the taxi incident.

As you've brought up the publication of domestic violence matters. I think that should be published, not swept under the carpet. If you don't want the facts to be published do not raise your hand to a woman.


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Ghost Like wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 11:13pm I was actually asking about the taxi incident.

As you've brought up the publication of domestic violence matters. I think that should be published, not swept under the carpet. If you don't want the facts to be published do not raise your hand to a woman.
Well, I actually agree that the perpetrator should be shamed but not the victim'

In the jurisdictions I'm talking about it is up to the victim whether the perpetrator is exposed or not. not the press.

And for your information, whilst in the majority of cases it is, not all cases involve a man raising a hand to a woman.

I have no more information on the taxi incident other than what I have gleaned from newspaper articles


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