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Re: Match/Torch Thread Saints v Cats Round 17 2019

Post: # 1806272Post Devilhead »

Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:40pm
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:19pm
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:12pm
Beno88 wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:01pm Effort was better, but still could only manage our lowest score of the season.
Effort schmeffort. Show me results.
Ha another who wants the world with a 3rd of our starting 22 out against the top team on their home turf :
Na....another who sees 8 goals against EVERYONE we play, someone who sees us beat GC by less than a goal (twice), whilst everyone else is up by 10+ goals at half time against them!!!

All I hear is excuses excuses. Show me results.
Our forward structure sucks due to our plethora of key injuries ..... you do understand this?

Its not an excuse just a very real situation that a very young squad is struggling to overcome


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Re: Match/Torch Thread Saints v Cats Round 17 2019

Post: # 1806274Post HardSaint »

jeez you've gone into overdrive trying to justify your poor assertion

did you watch the first and and second quarters

we should have won the f****** thing

any other club would have


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Re: Match/Torch Thread Saints v Cats Round 17 2019

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Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:44pm
HardSaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:40pm Thing is, we should have won this game tonight



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:lol: Classic comedy

Top side
Their home deck
Their full starting 22

A third of our best starting 22 out

Thanks for the laughs!!
Typical f****** arrogant Geelong. They cruised to the finish line in second gear. Definitely not in the best of form but they have their superstars who put their hand up when required.

Had about 4 levels to lift anytime we challenged and the umps just made their job even easier. Not sure if playing the Saints is their ideal lead up to playing Hawthorn. Hopefully we've given them a few bumps and bruises and I'd love them to keep cruising in top spot and then just lose every single final :twisted: :twisted:


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Re: Match/Torch Thread Saints v Cats Round 17 2019

Post: # 1806284Post Devilhead »

Paton - Hannebery (middle)
McKenzie - Roberton (back)
Hind - Webster (back)
Long - Battle (forward)
Newnes - Steven (middle)
Coffield - Geary (back)
Sinclair (On form) - McCartin (Forward)

That's 7 .... one third

With McCartin Bruce Battle and Membery forward that's a bit of marking fiirepower - Lonie and Gresh at their feet and we have a decent forward set up

Don't think I am far wrong with this


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Re: Match/Torch Thread Saints v Cats Round 17 2019

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Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:56pm
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:40pm
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:19pm
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:12pm
Beno88 wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:01pm Effort was better, but still could only manage our lowest score of the season.
Effort schmeffort. Show me results.
Ha another who wants the world with a 3rd of our starting 22 out against the top team on their home turf :
Na....another who sees 8 goals against EVERYONE we play, someone who sees us beat GC by less than a goal (twice), whilst everyone else is up by 10+ goals at half time against them!!!

All I hear is excuses excuses. Show me results.
Our forward structure sucks due to our plethora of key injuries ..... you do understand this?

Its not an excuse just a very real situation that a very young squad is struggling to overcome
Jack Steven is the only major player that would make a small difference. Even then he is not the cream of the crop of midfielders. Roberton good ordinary player. McCartin a never has been and would have been a bust regardless of his concussion issues.

Who else effects the structure?
How about setting up a structure that can kick goals. If it’s 22 to 12-15 as a result then so be it.
Kicking 8 goals (2 in nearly 3 quarters again tonight) every week is junk save my arse stuff from Richo and thus no development in players as that style does nothing to enhance learning.

One of the biggest issues is amount of players who can’t defend one on one. Why?


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Re: Match/Torch Thread Saints v Cats Round 17 2019

Post: # 1806294Post HardSaint »

Devilhead wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:06am Paton - Hannebery (middle)
McKenzie - Roberton (back)
Hind - Webster (back)
Long - Battle (forward)
Newnes - Steven (middle)
Coffield - Geary (back)
Sinclair (On form) - McCartin (Forward)

That's 7 .... one third

With McCartin Bruce Battle and Membery forward that's a bit of marking fiirepower - Lonie and Gresh at their feet and we have a decent forward set up

Don't think I am far wrong with this

Yeah right

so give Richo another couple of years?
he might just figure it out from what you've put forward

my question remains, well its no question - we wont know our best 22 until we have a decent coach


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Re: Match/Torch Thread Saints v Cats Round 17 2019

Post: # 1806297Post HardSaint »

jack Steven doesnt want to play

what does that tell you


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The_Dud wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:55pm
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:52pm
HardSaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:36pm
Devilhead wrote:
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:12pm
Beno88 wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:01pm Effort was better, but still could only manage our lowest score of the season.
Effort schmeffort. Show me results.
Ha another who wants the world with a 3rd of our starting 22 out against the top team on their home turf :

Pfft our starting 22

Who's ours?
Or cho's?
Or the one a good coach would select from the cattle available

So who constitutes this elusive 1/3?
Webster, Robbo, yeah
Who else?
Mention McCarton and I'll convulse
Hannebury and I'll sneeze and spoil the party
Webster
Steven
Roberton
Battle
Geary
Hannebery

And yes McCartin ..... would absolutely definitely be playing and was showing good signs preseason

All these would be starting 22

You could even make an argument for Austin and Kent

Austin would allow Battle to go forward

So that's 9 mentioned all realistic starting 22 ..... and I needed 7

Cats had their full quota tonight - maybe Menegola the only one missing
So who are you dropping to fit all those players in?
Pretty easy I’d say.

Geary - Paton
Steven - Newnes
Webster - McKenzie
Battle - Brown
Roberton - coffield
Hannebery - Sinclair
McCartin / King - Acres
Kent - Long

Unfortunately don’t thin McCartin will play again.
I like Coffield and Paton but wouldn’t be in best 22.


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Post: # 1806299Post CURLY »

Annoyedsaint wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:14am
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:56pm
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:40pm
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:19pm
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:12pm
Beno88 wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:01pm Effort was better, but still could only manage our lowest score of the season.
Effort schmeffort. Show me results.
Ha another who wants the world with a 3rd of our starting 22 out against the top team on their home turf :
Na....another who sees 8 goals against EVERYONE we play, someone who sees us beat GC by less than a goal (twice), whilst everyone else is up by 10+ goals at half time against them!!!

All I hear is excuses excuses. Show me results.
Our forward structure sucks due to our plethora of key injuries ..... you do understand this?

Its not an excuse just a very real situation that a very young squad is struggling to overcome
Jack Steven is the only major player that would make a small difference. Even then he is not the cream of the crop of midfielders. Roberton good ordinary player. McCartin a never has been and would have been a bust regardless of his concussion issues.

Who else effects the structure?
How about setting up a structure that can kick goals. If it’s 22 to 12-15 as a result then so be it.
Kicking 8 goals (2 in nearly 3 quarters again tonight) every week is junk save my arse stuff from Richo and thus no development in players as that style does nothing to enhance learning.

One of the biggest issues is amount of players who can’t defend one on one. Why?
Clearly your taking the piss. Roberton Geary Webster all straight in. Roberton is our Tom Stewart.


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HardSaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:57pm jeez you've gone into overdrive trying to justify your poor assertion

did you watch the first and and second quarters

we should have won the f****** thing

any other club would have
Well 7 sides have tried to beat them this year at home and 6 have failed


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Luke Darcy, nice guy as usual, mentioned that "St Kilda lose no friends tonight", and he always made Richo look dignified in his comments. As for Geelong he said, "the Cats will move on from this game pretty quickly I should think" . I think that sums up our image within the ranks for the last six years. Nice fellas, try hard.
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Richo just bagged the umpiring in his presser.


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Battle. Austin (or Clav). White
Roberton. Carlisle. Coffield
Clark. Acres. Hannebery
Membrey. McCartin. Billings
Gresham. Bruce. Good question
Marshall. Steele. Steven

King. Dunstan Bytel. Draft Pick 1

Of those 12 played tonight

Hopefully Round 1 in 2020 will look something like this (fingers and toes crossed)

IF we can pick up a class mid with dash then Jack to a forward pocket


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Post: # 1806310Post Devilhead »

A few posters in this thread really being shown up with regard to understanding the importance of injuries and structure and also amazingly not even knowing our best 22


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CURLY wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:16am
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:14am
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:56pm
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:40pm
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:19pm
Annoyedsaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:12pm
Beno88 wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:01pm Effort was better, but still could only manage our lowest score of the season.
Effort schmeffort. Show me results.
Ha another who wants the world with a 3rd of our starting 22 out against the top team on their home turf :
Na....another who sees 8 goals against EVERYONE we play, someone who sees us beat GC by less than a goal (twice), whilst everyone else is up by 10+ goals at half time against them!!!

All I hear is excuses excuses. Show me results.
Our forward structure sucks due to our plethora of key injuries ..... you do understand this?

Its not an excuse just a very real situation that a very young squad is struggling to overcome
Jack Steven is the only major player that would make a small difference. Even then he is not the cream of the crop of midfielders. Roberton good ordinary player. McCartin a never has been and would have been a bust regardless of his concussion issues.

Who else effects the structure?
How about setting up a structure that can kick goals. If it’s 22 to 12-15 as a result then so be it.
Kicking 8 goals (2 in nearly 3 quarters again tonight) every week is junk save my arse stuff from Richo and thus no development in players as that style does nothing to enhance learning.

One of the biggest issues is amount of players who can’t defend one on one. Why?
Clearly your taking the piss. Roberton Geary Webster all straight in. Roberton is our Tom Stewart.
Lol our Tom Stewart...oh boy...now that’s a pisstake!

No wonder we are 4th last with inflated opinions of certain players. He is a poor mans Dempster, but still a better option than currently in the side and would definitely be in the team if fit.


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To the top wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:19am Battle. Austin (or Clav). White
Roberton. Carlisle. Coffield
Clark. Acres. Hannebery
Membrey. McCartin. Billings
Gresham. Bruce. Good question
Marshall. Steele. Steven

King. Dunstan Bytel. Draft Pick 1

Of those 12 played tonight

Hopefully Round 1 in 2020 will look something like this (fingers and toes crossed)

IF we can pick up a class mid with dash then Jack to a forward pocket
If cloning technology was available, this would be Richos wet dream:

Newnes. Newnes. Newnes
Newnes. Newnes. Newnes
Newnes. Newnes. Newnes
Newnes. Newnes. Newnes
Newnes. Newnes. Newnes
Newnes. Newnes. Newnes


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Devilhead wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:17am
HardSaint wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:57pm jeez you've gone into overdrive trying to justify your poor assertion

did you watch the first and and second quarters

we should have won the f****** thing

any other club would have
Well 7 sides have tried to beat them this year at home and 6 have failed
how many were as competitive as we were tonight?

that elusive extra 1/3 wouldnt have accounted for anything and most probably wouldve got the thumping we were so desperately worried about tonight

I'm just a little over the "what if's', "Maybe's" and "imaginings" of the perfect scenario - doesnt help us one bit
we had our chance tonight and we blew it

thats all


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Turbo wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 10:56pm We need to recruit some players with mongrel. Our players a too nice. They do not induce any fear in the opposition. Our opponents do not have to think twice about who is around them. We have some of the nicest guys running around the AFL.
I can't even nominate anybody that i van think of that can be considered as having some mongrel. Can anyone help with a name?

No we need a coach with mongrel, not one that panders to them and tells them their efforts we’re pleasing


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Crossy66 wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:24pm
Devilhead wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:11pm
Crossy66 wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:09pm Too many players that cant tackle, that wait for the opposition to go for the ball, too much bruise free footy. Effort was good in the 2nd and that was it.
Probably only a handful of players that would off the trade table. We just lack hardness more than anything. Lots of blokes scared to get hurt

We had 85 tackles
They seem to intentionally hold back from going for the ball, then lay a tackle. I think they must be taught to do this. Remember Steele last week? He lined up behind cunnington and just tackled him when he got the ball. Watch how easily cats players walked through tackles in general play.
We’ve been doing it all year, it’s like we are scared to get the bloody football.


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Why do people i9nclude Roberton and McCartin in our best 22. Roberton has had two heart related incidents on the field, he will never play again unless you want to risk him dropping dead on the field due to his heart condition.
McCartin 1) has never established himself in our best 22 and 2) 8 concussions and you just have to touch his head to give him another one. He will never play again and that will be for his own good because if already hasn't, there's a fair chance he will already have brain issues later in life.
For either of these guys, it isn't worth the chance of playing them again.
Plus I don't include Hannebury because he has played 2 games for us, the only team that would be missing his influence at this stage would be the Swans. Tonight we really missed 3 players, Jack Steven, Battle and Geary.


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saintbob wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 1:03am
Turbo wrote: Sat 13 Jul 2019 10:56pm We need to recruit some players with mongrel. Our players a too nice. They do not induce any fear in the opposition. Our opponents do not have to think twice about who is around them. We have some of the nicest guys running around the AFL.
I can't even nominate anybody that i van think of that can be considered as having some mongrel. Can anyone help with a name?
No we need a coach with mongrel, not one that panders to them and tells them their efforts we’re pleasing
I thought the complaint from geary about/to richo was that he never told them what was pleasing only what they were doing wrong.


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CURLY wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:19am Richo just bagged the umpiring in his presser.
Desperate move by a dying (career) man.


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The_Dud wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 10:25am
CURLY wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 12:19am Richo just bagged the umpiring in his presser.
Desperate move by a dying (career) man.
Just telling the truth.


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Bruce G McAbee wrote: Sun 14 Jul 2019 1:15am Why do people i9nclude Roberton and McCartin in our best 22. Roberton has had two heart related incidents on the field, he will never play again unless you want to risk him dropping dead on the field due to his heart condition.
McCartin 1) has never established himself in our best 22 and 2) 8 concussions and you just have to touch his head to give him another one. He will never play again and that will be for his own good because if already hasn't, there's a fair chance he will already have brain issues later in life.
For either of these guys, it isn't worth the chance of playing them again.
Plus I don't include Hannebury because he has played 2 games for us, the only team that would be missing his influence at this stage would be the Swans. Tonight we really missed 3 players, Jack Steven, Battle and Geary.
It’s because there on our list. We planned to have them and now we don’t. If we knew this time last year we wouldn’t we could have traded in someone to play those roles.


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I must say that i have loved reading these game feeds while trying to watch the game laughing at some of the funny banter and occasionally putting in my two cents worth , but it’s over ....why ......ffs this constant crap about frees for or against....get the f*** over it curly you are not now or ever change what is happening or going to happen in the future. You have killed this pleasant game day forum.


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