Barrett, always the saints hater.

[The_Dud]

I love how every AFL commentator/journo/offical Hayes the Saints and has a vendetta against us.

I’d love to hear a list of media who don’t hate the Saints, just so I know who I can listen to!

And the umpiring has been good the last 2 weeks, definitely got the rub of the green (though some seem to have the inability to admit it) and getting a iffy free straight in front to kick the winning goal. GUARENTEED lots on here would be absolutely spewing if the roles were reversed. Swings and roundabouts

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Barret. Probably the biggest loser going around in the media. The bloke doesn't have a half decent bone in his body. He is a mischievous twit that acts like this in order to remain relevant and keep getting paid. How people can sink so low as a human to just get a paycheck every fortnight defies me sometimes. s*** life IMO.

And....

[WellardSaint]

When there's a story, they fan the flames.

They sure do, and I think some of them place advanced orders for kerosene.

I heard Barret telling one of them that Eddie Betts was looking cooked based on the goals he has scored last year - injured sometimes- and this year. The other guy, think it was Carey, pushed back on him and said the whole Adelaide team blows and the whole forward line is suffering. Still barret niggled for the story because he knows how to press the ‘right’ buttons. Edie kicked three anyway in a dismal Adelaide showing.

There’s no doubt the vultures have their radars on for cloudy skies over Moorabbin and if we start to suck badly in the dark months, they will need to feed their leafs. I think Terry’s Wallace was the first one to really get the daily vultures during the Richmond thing. Handled it with aplomb I think.

Saints are a good story club pretty much all this century but we have dried up as of late, and we get passes as blue collar battlers. It won’t last of course. From Blights sacking to Lyons escapee through school girl, Lovett, burning dwarves .. our media scandal sheet has somewhat dried up.

Ahh...excellent comments, Shano.
"The St Kilda Schoolgirl" as she is known widely in the media.
They ignore her friendship (cough) with Toot Toot Ricky Nixon, as well as some allegations (let's be VERY careful about libel laws)
that she enjoyed drinks etc with players from several other teams.
Nah, they want to align her with us.

Like 2 Highway Patrol cops who see 3 guys on Harleys, they imagine "Oh, outlaw bikie gang" when in fact,
it's a doctor, a dentist, and a public servant addressing their midlife crises, and receding hairlines, expanding waistlines and
growing property portfolios.

[Devilhead]

Was it definitive that the Sinclair goal (that was reviewed to be a behind)in the last few minutes came off the Hawks player knee?

Radio commentators were saying that the camera angle wasn't conclusive

[The_Dud]

Was it definitive that the Sinclair goal (that was reviewed to be a behind)in the last few minutes came off the Hawks player knee?

Radio commentators were saying that the camera angle wasn't conclusive

100% conclusive. Sinclair didn’t even celebrate.

[Devilhead]

Was it definitive that the Sinclair goal (that was reviewed to be a behind)in the last few minutes came off the Hawks player knee?

Radio commentators were saying that the camera angle wasn't conclusive

100% conclusive. Sinclair didn’t even celebrate.

Yet the Hawks players didn't remonstrate according to the commentators ..... and the ball went back to the centre?

Not saying it wasn't conclusive just want to clear it up as i didn't see it on tv

[The_Dud]

Was it definitive that the Sinclair goal (that was reviewed to be a behind)in the last few minutes came off the Hawks player knee?

Radio commentators were saying that the camera angle wasn't conclusive

100% conclusive. Sinclair didn’t even celebrate.

Yet the Hawks players didn't remonstrate according to the commentators ..... and the ball went back to the centre?

Not saying it wasn't conclusive just want to clear it up as i didn't see it on tv

Apparently the Hawks player grabbed the ball for the kick in and didn’t move until the review was called as he was so sure.

It was quite clear on the replay, bad miss by the goal ump who was right there.

[kosifantutti]

Was it definitive that the Sinclair goal (that was reviewed to be a behind)in the last few minutes came off the Hawks player knee?

Radio commentators were saying that the camera angle wasn't conclusive

100% conclusive. Sinclair didn’t even celebrate.

It’s a pity, because Sicily made such a poor effort to punch it through and he was hanging his head. They were very lucky that it hid Hardwick.

Poor effort from the umpire as well

[stevie]

Slightly off topic but the non mark to Jones from Carlscum pretty much led to the Suns winning goal It was a great mark and how it wasn’t paid was baffling

[Enrico_Misso]

I thought the Lonie free was most fortunate but against that 2 contentious decisions late in the second quarter cost us two goals. The dropped mark awarded to the Hawks resulting in a goal and the 50m penalty against Brown for being a few centimetres over the mark which seemed very technical. Also what's to say we wouldn't have scored another goal if Lonie wasn't awarded the free. There were still several minutes left to play and we dominated the play for most of the quarter.

Totally agree.
The mark decision was a shocker.
Doubtful if Brownie was actually over the mark at all. But normally in those situations the umpire calls the player by name to step back a metre, but this time he just blew the whistle with the siren about to blow.

[Joffa Burns]

[Sanctorum]

I love how every AFL commentator/journo/offical Hayes the Saints and has a vendetta against us.

I’d love to hear a list of media who don’t hate the Saints, just so I know who I can listen to!

And the umpiring has been good the last 2 weeks, definitely got the rub of the green (though some seem to have the inability to admit it) and getting a iffy free straight in front to kick the winning goal. GUARENTEED lots on here would be absolutely spewing if the roles were reversed. Swings and roundabouts

Peter Lalor, chief cricket writer for The Australian is a Saints supporter - after Round 1 or 2 he was a panelist on ABC's Offsiders (Sundays 10am) and expresed his delight at the St Kilda win, then there is Francis Leach, previously with SEN, now sport editor for the New Daily. There could well be more although I haven't come across one who covers AFL. Notwithstanding views expressed on this forum about journalists "hating" St Kilda, I personally don't believe any of them actually hate the Saints (as they might Collingwood or Carlton, the 2 teams universally despised by supporters of the other AFL teams), they simply find little positive to say about our team when they are playing poorly, as has been mostly the case since 2010. Not to forget that on this forum there have been a lot of Saints supporters bagging coaches and players in the past 12 months.

[degruch]

Barret. Probably the biggest loser going around in the media. The bloke doesn't have a half decent bone in his body. He is a mischievous twit that acts like this in order to remain relevant and keep getting paid. How people can sink so low as a human to just get a paycheck every fortnight defies me sometimes. s*** life IMO.

This all seems very negative, and I know how you feel about negativity and denigrating club officials...I assume this extends to other AFL professionals...should we arrange an intervention?

[Grrrrr]

I couldnt get over how the Hawks didnt get called for deliberate out of bounds on atleast 1/2 doz occasions

There was a shocker in the last 1/4, agreed.

What was your take on the Parker tackle that resulted in Acres goal?
Replay didn't look to me like he moved off his line, I think we got two goals from contentious frees

Ummm, I'm pretty sure the umpire called, on at least two occasions for Breust to play on, Parker took advantage of it. Parker went to the call of the umpire and was rewarded. See nothing wrong with that...
Swings and roundabouts with the umpires' calls. Why was a 50m penalty paid on the half time siren which resulted in a goal (I was unable to see as I was standing in the players' race ready for the Auskickers)?

[Grrrrr]

I love how every AFL commentator/journo/offical Hayes the Saints and has a vendetta against us.

I’d love to hear a list of media who don’t hate the Saints, just so I know who I can listen to!

And the umpiring has been good the last 2 weeks, definitely got the rub of the green (though some seem to have the inability to admit it) and getting a iffy free straight in front to kick the winning goal. GUARENTEED lots on here would be absolutely spewing if the roles were reversed. Swings and roundabouts

Peter Lalor, chief cricket writer for The Australian is a Saints supporter - after Round 1 or 2 he was a panelist on ABC's Offsiders (Sundays 10am) and expresed his delight at the St Kilda win, then there is Francis Leach, previously with SEN, now sport editor for the New Daily. There could well be more although I haven't come across one who covers AFL. Notwithstanding views expressed on this forum about journalists "hating" St Kilda, I personally don't believe any of them actually hate the Saints (as they might Collingwood or Carlton, the 2 teams universally despised by supporters of the other AFL teams), they simply find little positive to say about our team when they are playing poorly, as has been mostly the case since 2010. Not to forget that on this forum there have been a lot of Saints supporters bagging coaches and players in the past 12 months.

Don't forget Bruce Eva

[Joffa Burns]

I couldnt get over how the Hawks didnt get called for deliberate out of bounds on atleast 1/2 doz occasions

There was a shocker in the last 1/4, agreed.

What was your take on the Parker tackle that resulted in Acres goal?
Replay didn't look to me like he moved off his line, I think we got two goals from contentious frees

Ummm, I'm pretty sure the umpire called, on at least two occasions for Breust to play on, Parker took advantage of it. Parker went to the call of the umpire and was rewarded. See nothing wrong with that...
Swings and roundabouts with the umpires' calls. Why was a 50m penalty paid on the half time siren which resulted in a goal (I was unable to see as I was standing in the players' race ready for the Auskickers)?

Brown over stepped the mark slightly, it was there but very harsh technical call IMO, you'd see 10 of them a game where the ump just calls them back.

[Sainter_Dad]

Why was a 50m penalty paid on the half time siren which resulted in a goal (I was unable to see as I was standing in the players' race ready for the Auskickers)?

Brown over stepped the mark slightly, it was there but very harsh technical call IMO, you'd see 10 of them a game where the ump just calls them back.

Which led to a direct shot on goal, which would not have been scored from 100 metres away from goal. It was a nice kick - but there is no way he should have been in range. This 50 would not be paid 10/10 times in any other game - lol.

[The_Dud]

Why was a 50m penalty paid on the half time siren which resulted in a goal (I was unable to see as I was standing in the players' race ready for the Auskickers)?

Brown over stepped the mark slightly, it was there but very harsh technical call IMO, you'd see 10 of them a game where the ump just calls them back.

Which led to a direct shot on goal, which would not have been scored from 100 metres away from goal. It was a nice kick - but there is no way he should have been in range. This 50 would not be paid 10/10 times in any other game - lol.

The 50 was paid because he sprinted in from far away straight over the mark, where if he was in the marking contest and crept over the mark they’d give him a chance and call him back.

[Sainter_Dad]

Why was a 50m penalty paid on the half time siren which resulted in a goal (I was unable to see as I was standing in the players' race ready for the Auskickers)?

Brown over stepped the mark slightly, it was there but very harsh technical call IMO, you'd see 10 of them a game where the ump just calls them back.

Which led to a direct shot on goal, which would not have been scored from 100 metres away from goal. It was a nice kick - but there is no way he should have been in range. This 50 would not be paid 10/10 times in any other game - lol.

The 50 was paid because he sprinted in from far away straight over the mark, where if he was in the marking contest and crept over the mark they’d give him a chance and call him back.

Ah so the tolerance of the umpires for someone who is less likely to know exactly where the mark is is lower than that towards those who should know where the mark is exactly - sounds fair.

I stand by my call - This 50 would not be paid 10/10 times in any other game.

[CURLY]

Why was a 50m penalty paid on the half time siren which resulted in a goal (I was unable to see as I was standing in the players' race ready for the Auskickers)?

Brown over stepped the mark slightly, it was there but very harsh technical call IMO, you'd see 10 of them a game where the ump just calls them back.

Which led to a direct shot on goal, which would not have been scored from 100 metres away from goal. It was a nice kick - but there is no way he should have been in range. This 50 would not be paid 10/10 times in any other game - lol.

The 50 was paid because he sprinted in from far away straight over the mark, where if he was in the marking contest and crept over the mark they’d give him a chance and call him back.

Ah so the tolerance of the umpires for someone who is less likely to know exactly where the mark is is lower than that towards those who should know where the mark is exactly - sounds fair.

I stand by my call - This 50 would not be paid 10/10 times in any other game.

Its very selective when its paid and the higher profile teams get far more leniency than StKilda do. Hawthorn made it a trade mark tactic for years to slow the game up.

[saynta]

Lets call it for what it was. A bulls*** free and 50 metre penalty against Brown,

[degruch]

Anyway, I love reading Barrett's columns each week and noting that the Saints are either referred to negatively, or completely ignored...it means we're putting the frighteners up a few. Of course, it's round 4, and even if it was round 18, we know what happened at the end of 2017.

I can't remember so much vitriol being leveled at any team in history than Lyon's GF teams, especially when we were absolutely smashing the opposition by significant margins each week...everyone's 'second favourite team' when we're losing, but few seem to be able to tolerate a successful St Kilda. I've noticed a bit of the hate starting to return on some AFL FB posts... ...bring it on!

[saynta]

F**k, I have to agree with you for once.

[degruch]

F**k, I have to agree with you for once.

BOOKMARK!!!

[Superboot]

I thought the Lonie free was most fortunate but against that 2 contentious decisions late in the second quarter cost us two goals. The dropped mark awarded to the Hawks resulting in a goal and the 50m penalty against Brown for being a few centimetres over the mark which seemed very technical. Also what's to say we wouldn't have scored another goal if Lonie wasn't awarded the free. There were still several minutes left to play and we dominated the play for most of the quarter.

Agree with all of this. I was fuming at half time, thinking we were going to be robbed