Hard for Longer now!

[stonecold]

Oops, looking at the thread title I thought this was just talking about Stoney...

You call me obsessed!!!!!

No further sexual references please, each to their own Dudley, but Stone cold likes women, good luck to you all the same, however no interest from here!!!!!

[stonecold]

Grundy AFL team of the week!!!!!

Just saying!!!!!

[sunsaint]

where is Thorpy,
please explain, as Pauline Hanson would say

its a homophobic slur
just like the insinuation that he wore lacy panties

[stonecold]

where is Thorpy,
please explain, as Pauline Hanson would say

its a homophobic slur
just like the insinuation that he wore lacy panties

Thorpdale, where all the spuds come from!!!!!

As for you Sunset, you could do with a spell after that sort of sexist remark, pathetic really!!!!!

[samuraisaint]

Grundy AFL team of the week!!!!!

Just saying!!!!!

I watched a bit of that game and Hickey kicked a clutch goal against the 'Woods though, and he did the same against GWS the week before and was very competitive. Although I did check how he went for the Eagles against the Lions in Round 1 and apparently he was very poor in that match.

I just reckon we needed to free up some cap space so he went - good luck to him. He is playing a bit better for the Eagles than he did for us from the little I've seen, but when I see McEvoy, Stanley and Lynch I think we need to persevere with Longer because if he goes he will really come on for a team playing better than we are. I honestly thought Hickey was the better player but not the better ruckman. The problem both players have is that they get injured - but it is probably the easiest place on the field to get injured, so that's not their fault.

Marshall needs to play up forward for mine because I think we desperately need three talls there, and Battle can be the other one, with Bruce. Marshall gives Longer a chop out in the ruck, and Billy can rest up forward. Give the guy time and he'll be right. Marshall just needs to be developed and coached to fill that role.

Longer plays first ruck every week - or should - starting from this week, let him develop - Stanley is proof that good development is the way forward. Pierce is back up if he goes down with an injury. I prefer Billy in the ruck to Lewis because he has proven he can beat the likes of Gawn in the past. He just needs to get consistent games for mine. Again, with the right development Billy could become our next Jeff Sarau.

Three talls in the forward line every week, two ruckmen every week.

[sunsaint]

As for you Sunset, you could do with a spell after that sort of sexist remark, pathetic really!!!!!

I didnt write either - you did

[stonecold]

where is Thorpy,
please explain, as Pauline Hanson would say

its a homophobic slur
just like the insinuation that he wore lacy panties

You didn't write this then?????

[kalsaint]

He’s the only guy on the list that can play both positions and with Paddy down we’re short a key forward.

Certainly this idea is a step up from a Bruce / Acres playing relief ruck.
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Bingo, he's first half was good, then really tired!!!!!
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I think just about everyone but our coaches can see the need for a second genuine ruck in the team.
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Bingo, Tiredness will cause problems later in the season if he doesn't get help and a forward position break is a good thought.

We need a tap ruckman to stop easy central clearances. We got a hiding against the Dockers on central clearances despite winning the hit out stats.

[WellardSaint]

where is Thorpy,
please explain, as Pauline Hanson would say

its a homophobic slur
just like the insinuation that he wore lacy panties

Thorpdale, where all the spuds come from!!!!!

As for you Sunset, you could do with a spell after that sort of sexist remark, pathetic really!!!!!

Stonecold might be a lot of things, but he's honest.
here's something from wikipedia:
Thorpdale is a small country town in the Gippsland area of eastern Victoria, Australia, less than 20 km south of Trafalgar. Famous for its potatoes, it is located amongst the rich farmland of the Latrobe Valley. Thorpdale spuds are eaten around the country and also exported overseas.

[sunsaint]

,yep - and he has also insulted Danny Frawley at the same time

[Crossy66]

where is Thorpy,
please explain, as Pauline Hanson would say

its a homophobic slur
just like the insinuation that he wore lacy panties

Thorpdale, where all the spuds come from!!!!!

As for you Sunset, you could do with a spell after that sort of sexist remark, pathetic really!!!!!

Stonecold might be a lot of things, but he's honest.
here's something from wikipedia:
Thorpdale is a small country town in the Gippsland area of eastern Victoria, Australia, less than 20 km south of Trafalgar. Famous for its potatoes, it is located amongst the rich farmland of the Latrobe Valley. Thorpdale spuds are eaten around the country and also exported overseas.

LMAO - one of the funnier threads.

[stonecold]

,yep - and he has also insulted Danny Frawley at the same time

Give it a rest, sunshine!!!!!

Would never insult a friend like Danny, you just digging yourself a bigger hole now and making a bigger dill of yourself!!!!!

[Jacks Back]

Who's Roma?

[samuraisaint]

Who's Roma?

Rowan Marshall.

Rowan Marshall.

[Jacks Back]

Who's Roma?

Rowan Marshall.

Shouldn't it be RoMa then?

[sunsaint]

Who's Roma?

Rowan Marshall.

Shouldn't it be RoMa then?

it might be a gen Z thing
but Im on board elevate him to the leadership group and call him
General Romall

[Spinner]

6 kicks

7 handballs

0 marks

1 tackle

47 hit outs

In a side that was thrashed - despite a ruck “dominance”

We should have beaten Hawthorn late last season

Hawthorn rely on possession, players running from behind into space and numbers around the contest then chipping short to open up their opponent

We had them playing ring a rosy last year - but unable to score

Against such an opponent (and I would say any opponent) you can just not have a player who lacks mobility and can not impact on a game (and if Longer is so dominant in the hit outs, putting the ball down the throats of our mids why our win/loss record - simply as much as Longer brings is to contest hit outs and past that a liability - imagine throwing him forward v Hawthorn, they will run off him and set up scoring at will

Longer is one dimensional - and that is the problem

Past that, some seem attracted to goals being kicked as the measure and not the build up

So kicking 2 goals in a VFL thrashing = promotion

No

There is far, far more to assess than the goal kickers - and to me Long dines out on one goal So has a long (excuse the pun) way to go

Battle will stay in defence

I am reminded of Carlisle rucking v Melbourne in the game we won late last year and doing very well

Mc Cartin is missed because he releases Membrey to the third “tall” noting Membrey is mid fielder size

So Steven if available for Sinclair

The VFL result indicates no pressure from the lesser level

If you don't rate ruckmen at all as it seems just play another tall midfielder to fill in the holes / space from that one game sometime last year against Hawthorn...

And, surely you're not arguing that Longer's 47 hitouts should have resulted in a win therefore ruckmen/ruckwork are not significant? Good/dominate ruckwork can improve a midfield - but doesn't automatically make it the best midfield.

[saintsRrising]

Given the Hawks play Ben and Ceglar then I think there is a good case to play Marshall and Longer against them.

[stonecold]

6 kicks

7 handballs

0 marks

1 tackle

47 hit outs

In a side that was thrashed - despite a ruck “dominance”

We should have beaten Hawthorn late last season

Hawthorn rely on possession, players running from behind into space and numbers around the contest then chipping short to open up their opponent

We had them playing ring a rosy last year - but unable to score

Against such an opponent (and I would say any opponent) you can just not have a player who lacks mobility and can not impact on a game (and if Longer is so dominant in the hit outs, putting the ball down the throats of our mids why our win/loss record - simply as much as Longer brings is to contest hit outs and past that a liability - imagine throwing him forward v Hawthorn, they will run off him and set up scoring at will

Longer is one dimensional - and that is the problem

Past that, some seem attracted to goals being kicked as the measure and not the build up

So kicking 2 goals in a VFL thrashing = promotion

No

There is far, far more to assess than the goal kickers - and to me Long dines out on one goal So has a long (excuse the pun) way to go

Battle will stay in defence

I am reminded of Carlisle rucking v Melbourne in the game we won late last year and doing very well

Mc Cartin is missed because he releases Membrey to the third “tall” noting Membrey is mid fielder size

So Steven if available for Sinclair

The VFL result indicates no pressure from the lesser level

If you don't rate ruckmen at all as it seems just play another tall midfielder to fill in the holes / space from that one game sometime last year against Hawthorn...

And, surely you're not arguing that Longer's 47 hitouts should have resulted in a win therefore ruckmen/ruckwork are not significant? Good/dominate ruckwork can improve a midfield - but doesn't automatically make it the best midfield.

Well Spinner, the poster has clearly proven over time to know nothing about Ruckwork, among other things, so, do what I do and do and just laugh at the amount of limited knowledge provided!!!!!