Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

What's up with Dan? Has he retired as well?

I thought it was an induced coma at the Alfred. Lol

[sunsaint]

What's up with Dan? Has he retired as well?

He doesn't need to...

Pretty certain if you were close enough to Dan when he signed the contract you would heard him whisper
Thanks Lethers that's my superannuation covered
In the meantime let's see how Dylan Shiel performs rnd1 this weekend

[The_Dud]

The whole situation is absolutely farcical.

Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.

How anyone can spin this as anything else but an absolute disaster is beyond me. This year is a write off for him, and if you think an injury plagued 29 year old is going to rebound to 800k form next year, you are delusional.

[SaintPav]

The whole situation is absolutely farcical.

Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.

How anyone can spin this as anything else but an absolute disaster is beyond me. This year is a write off for him, and if you think an injury plagued 29 year old is going to rebound to 800k form next year, you are delusional.

NO.

Wait until the end of 2023 before making the call.

He still might come good.

[Shaggy]

Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

IMO very naive to think a team is happy to offload their best finals player and in their leadership group.

[Aussie Jonestown]

Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

IMO very naive to think a team is happy to offload their best finals player and in their leadership group.

I watched the final when Sydney were knocked out and Hannebery was abysmal.

Sydney would be deliriously happy and very relieved to offload him.

[Aussie Jonestown]

Alan Richardson says the Saints didn’t know the full extent of Dan Hannebery’s issues with his body

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/alan-r ... ac7e36dc25

[GilsAuPair]

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

IMO very naive to think a team is happy to offload their best finals player and in their leadership group.

I love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.

Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.

Second Hannebery was not in the best

SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 2.3 4.7 7.11 10.19 (79)

GOALS
Sydney: Papley 2, Parker, Ronke
Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward

BEST
Sydney: Kennedy, Parker, Heeny, Cunningham
Giants: Davis, Whitfield, Greene, Coniglio, Himmelberg, Ward, Haynes

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/syd-v-gws

[Moods]

Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

Says who? Dan's old man?

[takeaway]

Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

Says who? Dan's old man?

"Dan Hannebery

If that was his final game for the Swans — he could be playing for a Victorian-based club next season — he can hold his head high. Worked tirelessly all game with a great balance between contested and uncontested ball. 7 " - Fox Sports (Ranking the highest of all Swans players)

Fox Sports, SEN and most other outlets had him in their best except AFL for some reason. Check it. 24 disposals, 98 fantasy points, copped a big whack (corky?) during the game but kept playing well. Will be a good addition for the club, not only due to skill and big game experience, but off the field as well.

[Joffa Burns]

I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.

I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.

We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.

Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.

Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.

[samoht]

No-one can claim or call the Hannebery recruitment a bust - it's just that, as a yardstick $800k per annum for 5 years on a 29 year old whose body is showing obvious signs of wear is way over the (logical) mark.
On that scale, how much would we be willing to pay for a rampagingly healthy 24 or 25 year old Dangerfield say in his prime - $3 million per annum?
Is this what Geelong paid for him?

[samuraisaint]

What's up with Dan? Has he retired as well?

I thought it was an induced coma at the Alfred. Lol

Well, his 'body needs to be rebuilt' and 'the Saints didn’t know the full extent of Dan Hannebery’s issues with his body'.

Sounds pretty bad to me.

[samoht]

There's a chance that 29 year old Hannebery might come good, who's to say? ...
but the point is while other clubs apply strict due diligence principles, what are we applying - undue negligence?
There's risk involved with Hanners, we're not talking about a footballer in his prime years or at the prime of their physical state - and so you need to weight the offer accordingly ... $800 k per annum over 5 years is way, way over the top.

There are healthy, younger footballers who are in their prime or whose stocks are on the rise that come along ... like Treloar, Shiel, Mitchell (hawks) etc... did they command $800k per annum?
These are the ones that I'd prefer us to chase.

[Aussie Jonestown]

I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.

I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.

We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.

Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.

Hannebury is 28 years of age and coming off two very ordinary, injury interrupted seasons.
It's beyond obvious he is cooked and his body is no longer able to sustain the rigours of AFL.
This was obvious before he was recruited and the club have now admitted that they did not do due diligence.

In what universe is $800,000 a year for five years for an injury riddled 28 year old, correct odds?
Have performance based clauses been applied to each year of this slush fund contract?
I would bet there are none in the first four years.
In what universe is giving away what is likely to be either pick 19, 20 or 21 and 39 for pick 28, correct odds?

Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.

That's a completely ridiculous statement.
To compare drafting Max King to Dan Hannebury and linking the two situations together is idiotic.

If you can't see the absolute obvious that Hannebery is a total bust right now then IMHO you're delusional.
I knew he would be a bust on the day he was recruited.

[Aussie Jonestown]

No-one can claim or call the Hannebery recruitment a bust

I called it a bust on the day Hannebery was recruited and still call it a bust now.

[Joffa Burns]

I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.

I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.

We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.

Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.

Hannebury is 28 years of age and coming off two very ordinary, injury interrupted seasons.
It's beyond obvious he is cooked and his body is no longer able to sustain the rigours of AFL.
This was obvious before he was recruited and the club have now admitted that they did not do due diligence.

In what universe is $800,000 a year for five years for an injury riddled 28 year old, correct odds?
Have performance based clauses been applied to each year of this slush fund contract?
I would bet there are none in the first four years.
In what universe is giving away what is likely to be either pick 19, 20 or 21 and 39 for pick 28, correct odds?

Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.

That's a completely ridiculous statement.
To compare drafting Max King to Dan Hannebury and linking the two situations together is idiotic.

If you can't see the absolute obvious that Hannebery is a total bust right now then IMHO you're delusional.
I knew he would be a bust on the day he was recruited.

Idiotic, ridiculous, delusional.
Lucky I am not a poster who reports to the moderator or I think you’d be enjoying a Saintsational holiday

[samoht]

The recruiting should be handed over to Saintsational ... we would do a much better job .. and for free (or a free membership upgrade).

[st.byron]

Apart from the dubious decision to recruit Hannebery in the first place, Richardson’s comments demonstrate that not too much has changed with him either. “He has to be re-built”......are you serious? What planet is this guy on if he thinks a 28 year old with chronic hamstring issues can be re-built to be an $800,000 a year player????
The self-delusion continues.
And they didn’t know the extent of it before recruiting him.. oh sweet Jesus.

[Aussie Jonestown]

I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.

I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.

We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.

Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.

Hannebury is 28 years of age and coming off two very ordinary, injury interrupted seasons.
It's beyond obvious he is cooked and his body is no longer able to sustain the rigours of AFL.
This was obvious before he was recruited and the club have now admitted that they did not do due diligence.

In what universe is $800,000 a year for five years for an injury riddled 28 year old, correct odds?
Have performance based clauses been applied to each year of this slush fund contract?
I would bet there are none in the first four years.
In what universe is giving away what is likely to be either pick 19, 20 or 21 and 39 for pick 28, correct odds?

Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.

That's a completely ridiculous statement.
To compare drafting Max King to Dan Hannebury and linking the two situations together is idiotic.

If you can't see the absolute obvious that Hannebery is a total bust right now then IMHO you're delusional.
I knew he would be a bust on the day he was recruited.

Idiotic, ridiculous, delusional.
Lucky I am not a poster who reports to the moderator or I think you’d be enjoying a Saintsational holiday

I'm not calling you an idiot.
I believe you're not an idiot which is why I'm surprised by your statement I regard as idiotic.
I think you're assessment of the situation is delusional if you're not already aware of this farce being a total bust.

In what universe are they correct odds for Hannebury
In what universe is it akin to comparing Hannebery to the other recruits?

[Aussie Jonestown]

Apart from the dubious decision to recruit Hannebery in the first place, Richardson’s comments demonstrate that not too much has changed with him either. “He has to be re-built”......are you serious? What planet is this guy on if he thinks a 28 year old with chronic hamstring issues can be re-built to be an $800,000 a year player????
The self-delusion continues.
And they didn’t know the extent of it before recruiting him.. oh sweet Jesus.

PRECISELY


Our very own Four Million Dollar man.
I hope we're not skimping on the rebuild, might have to throw an extra 2 million at the situation just to be sure.

[Linton Lodger]

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

IMO very naive to think a team is happy to offload their best finals player and in their leadership group.

I love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.

Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.

Second Hannebery was not in the best

SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 2.3 4.7 7.11 10.19 (79)

GOALS
Sydney: Papley 2, Parker, Ronke
Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward

BEST
Sydney: Kennedy, Parker, Heeny, Cunningham
Giants: Davis, Whitfield, Greene, Coniglio, Himmelberg, Ward, Haynes

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/syd-v-gws

Forget the stats, I watched that game, Sydney got thumped its true. Still, Hannebery was awesome, in everything and kept them in it in the first half.

He's not a bloke that will ever let you down in Finals. He was easily among Sydney's best that night, if not their best player.

[GilsAuPair]

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

IMO very naive to think a team is happy to offload their best finals player and in their leadership group.

I love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.

Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.

Second Hannebery was not in the best

SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 2.3 4.7 7.11 10.19 (79)

GOALS
Sydney: Papley 2, Parker, Ronke
Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward

BEST
Sydney: Kennedy, Parker, Heeny, Cunningham
Giants: Davis, Whitfield, Greene, Coniglio, Himmelberg, Ward, Haynes

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/syd-v-gws

Forget the stats, I watched that game, Sydney got thumped its true. Still, Hannebery was awesome, in everything and kept them in it in the first half.

He's not a bloke that will ever let you down in Finals. He was easily among Sydney's best that night, if not their best player.

Yeah righto

[takeaway]

Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.

IMO very naive to think a team is happy to offload their best finals player and in their leadership group.

I love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.

Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.

Second Hannebery was not in the best

SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 2.3 4.7 7.11 10.19 (79)

GOALS
Sydney: Papley 2, Parker, Ronke
Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward

BEST
Sydney: Kennedy, Parker, Heeny, Cunningham
Giants: Davis, Whitfield, Greene, Coniglio, Himmelberg, Ward, Haynes

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/syd-v-gws

Forget the stats, I watched that game, Sydney got thumped its true. Still, Hannebery was awesome, in everything and kept them in it in the first half.

He's not a bloke that will ever let you down in Finals. He was easily among Sydney's best that night, if not their best player.

Yeah righto

And, as stated early in the thread, was named in the best on many media outlets, including best player for Swans on Fox Sports. So it pays to check facts properly.

[Enrico_Misso]

AR Quote 1 "He needs to be rebuilt"
AR Quote 2 "He won't be playing for the Saints any time soon"

Enrico Quote "Congrats to our best of class recruitment team and their cutting edge due diligence procedures"