Saints homeward bound!!

[sunsaint]

A question for all the pro junction oval people - no memes, no photoshop, just a question so please don’t answer with repeating kardinia park numbers or quotes from other forumites.

Why would anyone associated or part of the St Kilda FC commit millions and millions of dollars to rebuilding a stadium when the AFL, who control and fixture the games, have said they don’t want and have no need for a 3rd Melbourne ground?

This article is from last year, so it’s pretty clear they would not fixture anything even if this ground existed.

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-13/bo ... r-megadeal

no memes or photoshops hey Agame?
think you got the sides very confused as to the memes...
There is one very simple question that I would pose to you and Lachlan
if we cant make a profit at docklands with poor crowds - how will increasing the capacity help us?
and as Shane says Lachlan is just spitting into the wind - 10 years away is a Spaceman's wormhole to no where

[amusingname]

A question for all the pro junction oval people - no memes, no photoshop, just a question so please don’t answer with repeating kardinia park numbers or quotes from other forumites.

Why would anyone associated or part of the St Kilda FC commit millions and millions of dollars to rebuilding a stadium when the AFL, who control and fixture the games, have said they don’t want and have no need for a 3rd Melbourne ground?

This article is from last year, so it’s pretty clear they would not fixture anything even if this ground existed.

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-13/bo ... r-megadeal

no memes or photoshops hey Agame?
think you got the sides very confused as to the memes...
There is one very simple question that I would pose to you and Lachlan
if we cant make a profit at docklands with poor crowds - how will increasing the capacity help us?
and as Shane says Lachlan is just spitting into the wind - 10 years away is a Spaceman's wormhole to no where

Agame?

I think you misread my post, I was saying I was asking a question, not using memes or photoshop, just asking the question.

The idea would be to increase crowds regardless of where the game is being played, that should be the focus of the club. I don't think there is any proposal to increase the capacity at Marvel, the money for the redevelopment is for the surrounds and infrastructure as far as i am aware.

[sunsaint]

Nah read the post amusing name
And I didn't use memes...
I assume that they want to increase the size of mcg and made the point that we can't make a profit at the dome with many of the crowds we draw
For reference I would point you towards rogerfox he has done many posts on our crowd drawing ability in a historical context and concludes we are not one of the power clubs supporter wise

[amusingname]

Nah read the post amusing name
And I didn't use memes...
I assume that they want to increase the size of mcg and made the point that we can't make a profit at the dome with many of the crowds we draw
For reference I would point you towards rogerfox he has done many posts on our crowd drawing ability in a historical context and concludes we are not one of the power clubs supporter wise

I agree we are not a power club, we have scope to improve our supporter base and crowds though and I think we should not be at the bottom of the crowd averages for Victorian clubs. I don't see how moving back to Junction Oval would address our issues with crowds though? especially when all indications from the controlling body are that they have no interest in fixturing games anywhere in Melbourne apart from the MCG and Marvel?

[Dr Spaceman]

Nah read the post amusing name
And I didn't use memes...
I assume that they want to increase the size of mcg and made the point that we can't make a profit at the dome with many of the crowds we draw
For reference I would point you towards rogerfox he has done many posts on our crowd drawing ability in a historical context and concludes we are not one of the power clubs supporter wise

I agree we are not a power club, we have scope to improve our supporter base and crowds though and I think we should not be at the bottom of the crowd averages for Victorian clubs.

I don't see how moving back to Junction Oval would address our issues with crowds though? especially when all indications from the controlling body are that they have no interest in fixturing games anywhere in Melbourne apart from the MCG and Marvel?

You'll soon come to realise that these sort of issues don't matter to these folk

[asiu]

ahhhhhh
pml



only missing a pair of unicorns gracing their way
past that shiny thing

[Dave McNamara]

Hi Doc, no wonder you've lost the can-do-adventurous-no-challenge-too-great attitude of your youth. It seems that in your wild younger days you had an attack of the 'Paddy McCartins'... multiple concussions! I didn't realize.

Maybe you should see a................. doctor?




They had to hurt!


Anyways Doc, back to 'the' meme... life, death, the universe, the alternative solution to the JO that will solve...
our $10 million debt is growing, whilst enemy clubs clear their $10 million debts. (Including one club, with no supporters, and also no pokie bandits. ) Our beloved club is going backwards.

(If we had our own ground and identity I would feel completely different about this...)

the JO is the GO

+3

Time to bring back smaller, cheaper to run, better for the fans stadiums. You only have to look as far as Geelong to see it happen. Even Carlton has something that's usable. I don't think public transport options around Moorabbin are good enough, but grounds like Junction Oval could be built to house sub 20k games.
(Dave's edit: JO has shown it can hold crowds over 20K.)

"... clearly the AP is the GO! the "Alpaca Paddock", next to the present site of the St Kilda Bowling Club near the St Kilda railway station..."

Saints moving forward to the Junction Oval certainly has an air of inevitability about it!

... why you do prefer a development at moorabbin over our name sake suburb?

I would prefer St Kilda.

[Dr Spaceman]

[Dave McNamara]

Hi 'a-game'. Firstly, I reckon that's a great nic, but if you disagree please say so. Secondly, I had to leave in just one meme - the good Doctor loves that one.


The JO is available. Just takes will power on our behalf. And vision.

The first step is to return.
Then to play the lady's team there, and the intra-club.
Then aim for a pre-season game. Long term goal... boutique home games against low-drawing teams. (If/when Tassie, the NT or Cantberra get expansion sides, then that'd be three more low-drawing teams.)


Why the JO? When you have some free time, 'why' is to be found throughout this legendary thread. ShaneG has added the genesis of other reasons 'why'... all to do with 'location', 'location', 'location'.

I'll give you another one to start with also. When, earlier this decade we were banished to the irrelevance of out Seafolly (half way to Cantberra), and bouncing around the wrong end of the ladder, we couldn't land a major sponsor. Embarrassing, disheartening, and financially crippling. (See our debt as a result.)

Then came 'the' JO announcement news! <celebratory fireworks going off emoticon> Suddenly, unsolicited calls starting coming into our club... from would-be sponsors.

Clearly... big business knows that the JO is the GO.

(If we had our own ground and identity I would feel completely different about this...)

the JO is the GO

+3

Time to bring back smaller, cheaper to run, better for the fans stadiums. You only have to look as far as Geelong to see it happen. Even Carlton has something that's usable. I don't think public transport options around Moorabbin are good enough, but grounds like Junction Oval could be built to house sub 20k games.
(Dave's edit: JO has shown it can hold crowds over 20K.)

"... clearly the AP is the GO! the "Alpaca Paddock", next to the present site of the St Kilda Bowling Club near the St Kilda railway station..."

Saints moving forward to the Junction Oval certainly has an air of inevitability about it!

... why you do prefer a development at moorabbin over our name sake suburb?

I would prefer St Kilda.

[Dr Spaceman]

[Premium89]

https://www.sen.com.au/programs/whateley/

Have a listen to the nick reiwoldt segment from 28/3/19 - 7 min 30 in...
Has a bit to say about the JO!

[shanegrambeau]

Underground stadium in St Kilda?

Dr. Spaceman, you really have an idea there. You know your space, and you are not spacing out here.

I've never thought about an underground stadium, but why not? Kawasaki Heavy Industries in Yokohama have an LPG storage facility that is entirely underground 62 m deep and 70 across.
Think of it. The "Underground Junction".
Games at the UJO will really increase our exposure. Think of all the backpacker joints in St Kilda. Leaflets dropped in their foyers!

[sunsaint]

good catch there premium
cant wait for the new meme from the dr. to include the Mighty Roo

[Dr Spaceman]

good catch there premium
cant wait for the new meme from the dr. to include the Mighty Roo

Why would I do that?

The only discussion was about how good the cricket ground is and the missed opportunity for the Saints to move to the JO instead of Seaford (which I happen to agree with)

Didn't hear Mighty Roo talk about getting back to the JO in the future, building a boutique stadium on land we don't have access to, playing games that the AFL won't schedule etc, etc

Anyway, keep drinking Dave's bong water

[Jacks Back]

Have I missed something? Who are the two new faces there?

[Dr Spaceman]

Have I missed something? Who are the two new faces there?

Hi Jack.

They represent Mr Grambeau and Linton (who I, for no particular reason, refer to as Captain Marvel)

[shanegrambeau]

Have I missed something? Who are the two new faces there?

Hi Jack.

They represent Mr Grambeau and Linton (who I, for no particular reason, refer to as Captain Marvel)

Indeed, an honor sir.

[Dr Spaceman]

Another magnificent performance by the Vics in the Sheffield Shield Final at the Junction Oval, marred only by a pitch invasion by a couple of knuckleheads who seemed to have no comprehension of reality.

[The Fireman]

ah yes back to the good old days...watering down the ground for our next match...good thinking Dr.

[Dr Spaceman]

ah yes back to the good old days...watering down the ground for our next match...good thinking Dr.

Think your hose is attached to Dave's rear end so don't think the ground will be fit for play any time soon.

[Dr Spaceman]

Sorry double post. We certainly don't want to hear about Dave's enema twice

[sunsaint]

ah yes back to the good old days...watering down the ground for our next match...good thinking Dr.

Think your hose is attached to Dave's rear end so don't think the ground will be fit for play any time soon.

Im not sure thats whats actually happening there Dr Spac
it looks to me like the fireman is hosing down two overly amorous men in a public place at stkilda
Was there an E festival rage party or something on the weekend I didnt know about

and for the record - not that theres anything wrong with that
I just thank all our first respnders doing their job and fighting the good fight!

[sunsaint]

ah yes thats must be it I just noticed the poster in the background -
JLT - Junction Love Tryst

[shanegrambeau]

Fantasy for thought
Round 14 - June 22nd, 2019 - St Kilda vs Brisbane Lions - Junction Oval

Our Boutique Game
Promoting St Kilda in Melbourne and in St Kilda itself
Promoting St Kilda
New interest
Old Lions fans reminisce at old ground
Guaranteed news in TV!
Special events in St Kilda
How much cricket will be happening? (Nil)
Shortest day of the year!
Temporary Stand
Crowd 10,000
Imagine!

[The Fireman]

Fantasy for thought
Round 14 - June 22nd, 2019 - St Kilda vs Brisbane Lions - Junction Oval

Our Boutique Game
Promoting St Kilda in Melbourne and in St Kilda itself
Promoting St Kilda
New interest
Old Lions fans reminisce at old ground
Guaranteed news in TV!
Special events in St Kilda
How much cricket will be happening? (Nil)
Shortest day of the year!
Temporary Stand
Crowd 10,000
Imagine!

excellent post..but be careful you will be memed by a Dr. ... but hey join the gang