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Aussie Jonestown wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:44pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
When you say unavoidable, not entirely true.
We have a Head of Football who has never worked at club level before, this is a fact.
Gubby Allen has a horrible name inside the industry for double dealing.
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
These are the people leading our football club.
Steven is back in the fold now and will play Round 1, his personal issues could not be helped.
Roberton is just bad luck for all involved.
Carlisle was cooked at start of the summer and club chose to wait until it got better, turns out the wrong choice.
And Paddy well despite the fact we should never have chosen him pick 1 to start with, his issues have arisen from poor football technique which is a coaching and development issue first and foremost.
As for Hannebery, this was Lethlean's call to pay him $800k a year for 5 years, and get a banged up footballer, who has been known by all to have social issues away from football.
Roberton and Steven were unavoidable, the rest the club has pulled the wrong reign, as usual.

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jaxons getting a one week ban for this post is totally ridiculous.
I haven't posted for a while but I couldn't agree more. The signing of Rowe today is another blatant example of why these complete imbeciles are running this club into the ground, both off and on field.


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Aussie Jonestown wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:44pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
When you say unavoidable, not entirely true.
We have a Head of Football who has never worked at club level before, this is a fact.
Gubby Allen has a horrible name inside the industry for double dealing.
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
These are the people leading our football club.
Steven is back in the fold now and will play Round 1, his personal issues could not be helped.
Roberton is just bad luck for all involved.
Carlisle was cooked at start of the summer and club chose to wait until it got better, turns out the wrong choice.
And Paddy well despite the fact we should never have chosen him pick 1 to start with, his issues have arisen from poor football technique which is a coaching and development issue first and foremost.
As for Hannebery, this was Lethlean's call to pay him $800k a year for 5 years, and get a banged up footballer, who has been known by all to have social issues away from football.
Roberton and Steven were unavoidable, the rest the club has pulled the wrong reign, as usual.

<1 week ban for demeaning and casting dispersion on the character of Saints officials>
jaxons getting a one week ban for this post is totally ridiculous.
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jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am When you say unavoidable, not entirely true.
We have a Head of Football who has never worked at club level before, this is a fact.
Gubby Allen has a horrible name inside the industry for double dealing.
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
These are the people leading our football club.
Steven is back in the fold now and will play Round 1, his personal issues could not be helped.
Roberton is just bad luck for all involved.
Carlisle was cooked at start of the summer and club chose to wait until it got better, turns out the wrong choice.
And Paddy well despite the fact we should never have chosen him pick 1 to start with, his issues have arisen from poor football technique which is a coaching and development issue first and foremost.
As for Hannebery, this was Lethlean's call to pay him $800k a year for 5 years, and get a banged up footballer, who has been known by all to have social issues away from football.
Roberton and Steven were unavoidable, the rest the club has pulled the wrong reign, as usual.

<1 week ban for demeaning and casting dispersion on the character of Saints officials>
Really unfair banning.

The guy broke some pretty big news here last night and the above whilst non complimentary falls well short of casting ‘aspersions’ in my opinion.


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jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
Is St.KiIda Football Club a football club or a social engineering experiment?

Gender neutral toilets!
WTF

There are TWO genders, not FIFTY SIX genders

Males and Females = TWO genders

Finnis in his position as CEO of this football club is abusing this position with this non binary, gender neutral, gender fluid, social influencing garbage propaganda.

There have been incidents of men wearing dresses who have entered women's toilet's and raped women!

How is it acceptable in any way for the members of the St.Kida Football Club to have this imbecilic social engineering rubbish imposed on them without consultation?

It's a fair dinkum disgrace.

Is this social experiment insanity going to be repeated this year?

Is this a football club or a political organisation serving social influencers.
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Joffa Burns wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:43pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am When you say unavoidable, not entirely true.
We have a Head of Football who has never worked at club level before, this is a fact.
Gubby Allen has a horrible name inside the industry for double dealing.
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
These are the people leading our football club.
Steven is back in the fold now and will play Round 1, his personal issues could not be helped.
Roberton is just bad luck for all involved.
Carlisle was cooked at start of the summer and club chose to wait until it got better, turns out the wrong choice.
And Paddy well despite the fact we should never have chosen him pick 1 to start with, his issues have arisen from poor football technique which is a coaching and development issue first and foremost.
As for Hannebery, this was Lethlean's call to pay him $800k a year for 5 years, and get a banged up footballer, who has been known by all to have social issues away from football.
Roberton and Steven were unavoidable, the rest the club has pulled the wrong reign, as usual.

<1 week ban for demeaning and casting dispersion on the character of Saints officials>
Really unfair banning.

The guy broke some pretty big news here last night and the above whilst non complimentary falls well short of casting ‘aspersions’ in my opinion.
Wasn't the news wrong though?


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Aussie Jonestown wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:59pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
Is St.KiIda Football Club a football club or a social engineering experiment?

Gender neutral toilets!
WTF

There are TWO genders, not FIFTY SIX genders

Males and Females = TWO genders

Finnis in his position as CEO of this football club is abusing this position with this non binary, gender neutral, gender fluid, social influencing garbage propaganda.

There have been incidents of men wearing dresses who have entered women's toilet's and raped women!

How is it acceptable in any way for the members of the St.Kida Football Cub to have this imbecilic social engineering rubbish imposed on them without consultation?

It's a fair dinkum disgrace.

Is this social experiment insanity going to be repeated this year?

Is this a football club or a political organisation serving social influencers.
I think you're incredibly naive to think.that professional sporting organisations are merely 'footy clubs' these days.

You'd get about twenty five old white men watching if that was the case.


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kosifantutti wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:19pm Can’t get by without a couple of important players.

Imagine the Eagles without Natanui and Gaff.
Ahhhhh. The Eagles won last years FLAG without both of those players. Hello!!!!!!


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rodgerfox wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:05am
Aussie Jonestown wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:59pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
Is St.KiIda Football Club a football club or a social engineering experiment?

Gender neutral toilets!
WTF

There are TWO genders, not FIFTY SIX genders

Males and Females = TWO genders

Finnis in his position as CEO of this football club is abusing this position with this non binary, gender neutral, gender fluid, social influencing garbage propaganda.

There have been incidents of men wearing dresses who have entered women's toilet's and raped women!

How is it acceptable in any way for the members of the St.Kida Football Club to have this imbecilic social engineering rubbish imposed on them without consultation?

It's a fair dinkum disgrace.

Is this social experiment insanity going to be repeated this year?

Is this a football club or a political organisation serving social influencers.
I think you're incredibly naive to think.that professional sporting organisations are merely 'footy clubs' these days.

You'd get about twenty five old white men watching if that was the case.
Obviously the point of the post went way over your head.


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Aussie Jonestown wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:14am
rodgerfox wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:05am
Aussie Jonestown wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:59pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
Is St.KiIda Football Club a football club or a social engineering experiment?

Gender neutral toilets!
WTF

There are TWO genders, not FIFTY SIX genders

Males and Females = TWO genders

Finnis in his position as CEO of this football club is abusing this position with this non binary, gender neutral, gender fluid, social influencing garbage propaganda.

There have been incidents of men wearing dresses who have entered women's toilet's and raped women!

How is it acceptable in any way for the members of the St.Kida Football Club to have this imbecilic social engineering rubbish imposed on them without consultation?

It's a fair dinkum disgrace.

Is this social experiment insanity going to be repeated this year?

Is this a football club or a political organisation serving social influencers.
I think you're incredibly naive to think.that professional sporting organisations are merely 'footy clubs' these days.

You'd get about twenty five old white men watching if that was the case.
Obviously the point of the post went way over your head.
It totally did.

Sounded like an ignorant whinge about an organisation trying to change its brand in order to appeal to wider customer base to me.


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Yes, Natanui and Gaff. Must have those players to win a flag!!!


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Natanui and Gaff. How’s the view from the stands? Eagles travelling ok?

I’m a passionate SK supporter since 1966 and I’ve loved this site for a lomg time but the s...t that’s being posted on here increasingly is making it a laughing stock


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rodgerfox wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:16am
Aussie Jonestown wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:14am
rodgerfox wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:05am
Aussie Jonestown wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:59pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
Is St.KiIda Football Club a football club or a social engineering experiment?

Gender neutral toilets!
WTF

There are TWO genders, not FIFTY SIX genders

Males and Females = TWO genders

Finnis in his position as CEO of this football club is abusing this position with this non binary, gender neutral, gender fluid, social influencing garbage propaganda.

There have been incidents of men wearing dresses who have entered women's toilet's and raped women!

How is it acceptable in any way for the members of the St.Kida Football Club to have this imbecilic social engineering rubbish imposed on them without consultation?

It's a fair dinkum disgrace.

Is this social experiment insanity going to be repeated this year?

Is this a football club or a political organisation serving social influencers.
I think you're incredibly naive to think.that professional sporting organisations are merely 'footy clubs' these days.

You'd get about twenty five old white men watching if that was the case.
Obviously the point of the post went way over your head.
It totally did.

Sounded like an ignorant whinge about an organisation trying to change its brand in order to appeal to wider customer base to me.
Yep, way over your head.


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Devilhead wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:57pm Quite amazing - a few days back everything was looking up and the club seemed to be on the right track with the move back to Moorabbin, new coaching appointments and new draftees all having positive impacts - there was definitely light at the end of the tunnel ...... but now ..... a couple of injuries down the track ....... the club is a clusterfk our officials are toxic and the sky is falling down :roll:
Mmm...
Whilst ppl have tried to go into the new season with hope, I think many recognised that the same old problems are have yet to be addressed


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Devilhead wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:57pm Quite amazing - a few days back everything was looking up and the club seemed to be on the right track with the move back to Moorabbin, new coaching appointments and new draftees all having positive impacts - there was definitely light at the end of the tunnel ...... but now ..... a couple of injuries down the track ....... the club is a clusterfk our officials are toxic and the sky is falling down :roll:
Mmm...
Whilst ppl have tried to go into the new season with hope, I think many recognised that the same old problems are have yet to be addressed


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Doube post


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1965 Saint wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:26am Natanui and Gaff. How’s the view from the stands? Eagles travelling ok?

I’m a passionate SK supporter since 1966 and I’ve loved this site for a lomg time but the s...t that’s being posted on here increasingly is making it a laughing stock
All due respect but to compare us with West Coast is almost an oxy moron. Well coached ,extremely good administration, fantastic draft selection to compliment their list, massive membership & as much as I hate them they are so professional with most things they do( the current regime that is) we could only wish to be that successful.


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1965 Saint wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:06am
kosifantutti wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:19pm Can’t get by without a couple of important players.

Imagine the Eagles without Natanui and Gaff.
Ahhhhh. The Eagles won last years FLAG without both of those players. Hello!!!!!!
you’d reckon that was kos’s very point

given the context of his post
‘n the fact he’s sharper than your average bear
‘n quicker than your average comedian


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asiu wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 1:12am
1965 Saint wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:06am
kosifantutti wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:19pm Can’t get by without a couple of important players.

Imagine the Eagles without Natanui and Gaff.
Ahhhhh. The Eagles won last years FLAG without both of those players. Hello!!!!!!
you’d reckon that was kos’s very point

given the context of his post
‘n the fact he’s sharper than your average bear
‘n quicker than your average comedian
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Joffa Burns wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:43pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am When you say unavoidable, not entirely true.
We have a Head of Football who has never worked at club level before, this is a fact.
Gubby Allen has a horrible name inside the industry for double dealing.
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
These are the people leading our football club.
Steven is back in the fold now and will play Round 1, his personal issues could not be helped.
Roberton is just bad luck for all involved.
Carlisle was cooked at start of the summer and club chose to wait until it got better, turns out the wrong choice.
And Paddy well despite the fact we should never have chosen him pick 1 to start with, his issues have arisen from poor football technique which is a coaching and development issue first and foremost.
As for Hannebery, this was Lethlean's call to pay him $800k a year for 5 years, and get a banged up footballer, who has been known by all to have social issues away from football.
Roberton and Steven were unavoidable, the rest the club has pulled the wrong reign, as usual.

<1 week ban for demeaning and casting dispersion on the character of Saints officials>
Really unfair banning.

The guy broke some pretty big news here last night and the above whilst non complimentary falls well short of casting ‘aspersions’ in my opinion.
I don’t assess the poster when assessing the reported post in relation to the rules. So whether it is Jaxons or anyone else who posted this then I make a judgment based on what is written.

“Gubby Allen has a horrible name inside the industry for double dealing.
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.”

Both of these statements breached the rule. I shall counter by saying that Gubby is much admired for his results (despite some feeling he double deals - and who doesn’t double deal in his line of work) AND Finnis is highly regarded as a CEO by other CEOs and by the governing body. Also his achievements as CEO in terms of return to Moorabbin and the hew stadium deal etc havecset us up for the future. Having said that I agree that a week is harsh for the breach. The rule needs a tweak to allow for a one day ban for minor breaches like this one. I shall update the rule and revise the ban to one day.


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1965 Saint wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:06am
kosifantutti wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:19pm Can’t get by without a couple of important players.

Imagine the Eagles without Natanui and Gaff.
Ahhhhh. The Eagles won last years FLAG without both of those players. Hello!!!!!!
I think that was the point Kosifantutti was trying to make, 1965 Saint.

The team we have had out there in the previous two (practice) matches have done a great job so far. Hopefully it keeps up.


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skeptic wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:41am
Devilhead wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:57pm Quite amazing - a few days back everything was looking up and the club seemed to be on the right track with the move back to Moorabbin, new coaching appointments and new draftees all having positive impacts - there was definitely light at the end of the tunnel ...... but now ..... a couple of injuries down the track ....... the club is a clusterfk our officials are toxic and the sky is falling down :roll:
Mmm...
Whilst ppl have tried to go into the new season with hope, I think many recognised that the same old problems are have yet to be addressed
Only on SS. DH is right, quite a few positive posts a few days/weeks ago about the many changes and how the Saints were travelling before the Roberton/McCartin incidents, and now the club is a basket case? What else has happened? I must have missed something. What disastrous actions have the club taken? Signed Marsh, seems a good pickup, and Rowe, backup insurance in view of KPD shortages. What's wrong with that? Anything else? Are the spate of injuries the fault of the club?

Certainly not good news for Robbo and Paddy, but contrary to the numerous statements on here, neither retired this week. Dylan may yet play again, and Paddy we do not know. You would think if he was taking extended time off or retiring it would have been announced before the SSP signings expired. I guess we will know in coming weeks. I certainly won't be relying on SS for what is happening.

In any event, we will be playing 22 matches this year, the team has shown some good signs, including resilience when challenged, we will have the chance to see quite a few new players perform, many others are reaching AFL maturity for their prime years, and I for one as a supporter am really looking forward to the year.


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rodgerfox wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:16am
Aussie Jonestown wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:14am
rodgerfox wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:05am
Aussie Jonestown wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:59pm
jaxons wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:30am
Finnis is regarded inside the industry as a joke of a CEO.
Is St.KiIda Football Club a football club or a social engineering experiment?

Gender neutral toilets!
WTF

There are TWO genders, not FIFTY SIX genders

Males and Females = TWO genders

Finnis in his position as CEO of this football club is abusing this position with this non binary, gender neutral, gender fluid, social influencing garbage propaganda.

There have been incidents of men wearing dresses who have entered women's toilet's and raped women!

How is it acceptable in any way for the members of the St.Kida Football Club to have this imbecilic social engineering rubbish imposed on them without consultation?

It's a fair dinkum disgrace.

Is this social experiment insanity going to be repeated this year?

Is this a football club or a political organisation serving social influencers.
I think you're incredibly naive to think.that professional sporting organisations are merely 'footy clubs' these days.

You'd get about twenty five old white men watching if that was the case.
Obviously the point of the post went way over your head.
It totally did.

Sounded like an ignorant whinge about an organisation trying to change its brand in order to appeal to wider customer base to me.
Absolutely spot on. Some parts of society are clearly still living in 1950. This kind of ignorance goes way beyond football.


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SaintPav wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:43pm Apart from stating the truth, what did Jaxons say that was so wrong?

This site has truly lost the plot.
Have stayed away from posting for some time. But have been reading. Seriously, if Jaxons was banned for a week for posting what he did, that’s ridiculous.
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rodgerfox wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:56pm
asiu wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:33pm Rodger
u seem frustrated

would ya buy a sticker and a like from Warnie
for $10 ?
I wouldn't give a professional sporting club a cent. I don't see the point.
What about buying a membership? Just interested.


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SaintPav wrote: Sat 16 Mar 2019 9:05am
rodgerfox wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:56pm
asiu wrote: Fri 15 Mar 2019 10:33pm Rodger
u seem frustrated

would ya buy a sticker and a like from Warnie
for $10 ?
I wouldn't give a professional sporting club a cent. I don't see the point.
What about buying a membership? Just interested.
No.


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