Hannebery on reduced workload following hamstring setback

[shrodes]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-11/ ... da-recruit

ANOTHER hamstring setback for St Kilda recruit Dan Hannebery will see him on a reduced workload for the next fortnight.

However, the Saints are adamant there was no strain, with his latest injury to the same muscle he hurt before Christmas.

Hannebery was injured during match simulation on Friday, February 1, but has been running and boxing since then.

His program has been managed this preparation after groin and calf issues hampered the triple All Australian in his final couple of seasons at the Swans.

A gradual build-up was always the plan, as he said in November.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

He will be ok and its nothing unusual given his recent injury history.

Glad the fitness staff tailor a program to an individual these days instead of flogging them until they break like the old days.

[DJ Higgins]

Take all the time he needs to get repaired. I'd rather him start round 2 or 3 if it means he is full fit rather than him breaking down every other week

[shanegrambeau]

Our great new warrior, surrounded by expertise, and matured and tempered through experience has now gone down twice before the first game! Ouch!

[whiskers3614]

Starting to sense (Freeman) deja-vu.
Same idiocy of giving long contracts to injury riddled players better resourced clubs couldn't fix!

Flame away!

[Wayne42]

Starting to sense (Freeman) deja-vu.
Same idiocy of giving long contracts to injury riddled players better resourced clubs couldn't fix!

Flame away!

I'm sure he'll be raring to by round 20.

[MC Gusto]

The major concern for mine is jake Carlisle

There has been very little press on his injury / disc issue but I’d argue it’s relatively serious and he is critical

I guy on BF posted about hanners a few days a go...seemed to have some knowledge. Also posted that whilst players / coaches etc are certainly upbeat the stories on every player doing PBs and at record skinfolds was a complete fabrication and a lot of them came back very underdone and got an absolute hiding.

Interesting times

[The_Dud]

D Hannebery - 2 weeks

[BadRossco]

Very eager to recruit a name player a pity only a broken one would come to the saints.
Hope it does not develop into another one of our recruiting fiascos

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

[Enrico_Misso]

Starting to sense (Freeman) deja-vu.
Same idiocy of giving long contracts to injury riddled players better resourced clubs couldn't fix!

Flame away!

No flames here.
I totally agree.
Collingwood with their multi-million medical expertise decided Freeman's hamstrings would never be able to withstand the rigours of AFL.
But our shoestring medical experts knew better so we invested years in a player who would never make it and gave away a second round pick to a very grateful Collingwood in return for a worthless asset.

Did we learn from that?

[SaintPav]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

[guitars4]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

[CQ SAINT]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

He missed 11 games in his first 5 years at the club and was a ferious attacker of the football which lead to his crippling injuries in 06 and 07 and forced his retirement miway though 07. His impact, along with Gehtig, on the development of the younger stars of his era at St.Kilda was unquestionable.

[SaintPav]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

He missed 11 games in his first 5 years at the club and was a ferious attacker of the football which lead to his crippling injuries in 06 and 07 and forced his retirement miway though 07. His impact, along with Gehtig, on the development of the younger stars of his era at St.Kilda was unquestionable.

Agree but it didn’t end well retiring at just 30. He was just what we needed in 09 and 10.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

He missed 11 games in his first 5 years at the club and was a ferious attacker of the football which lead to his crippling injuries in 06 and 07 and forced his retirement miway though 07. His impact, along with Gehtig, on the development of the younger stars of his era at St.Kilda was unquestionable.

Exactly. Many credit Hamill with helping make Riewoldt the player and trainer he was. Riewoldt famously shadowed Hamill everywhere over one pre season when he was really young. That sort of stuff can't be taught just on the field.

Further reading on Dan injury:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/han ... 50x27.html
Sounds pretty normal after all. I would rather they be cautious with any injury concern.

[fugazi]

How many finals did Hamill play?
Was it 1?

[CQ SAINT]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

He missed 11 games in his first 5 years at the club and was a ferious attacker of the football which lead to his crippling injuries in 06 and 07 and forced his retirement miway though 07. His impact, along with Gehtig, on the development of the younger stars of his era at St.Kilda was unquestionable.

Agree but it didn’t end well retiring at just 30. He was just what we needed in 09 and 10.

That's a long bow to draw in my opinion. 'Hamill turned out great' rings a bit clearer than 'his retirement cost us 2 flags' and the Guitars4 comment was troll worthy IMHO.

[skeptic]

There’s no real reason why it can’t be both.

Hamil was great. His influence was instrumental in the development of a driven young core and change in culture. It’s unquestionable.

Did we get the onfield value from him that we needed? Absolutely not. He missed 2 prelims and was retired in what 07 or 08.

The reality is Hamil cost us Darryl Wakelin... a guy who did play in the 04 prelim against us. One also has to point out that we later ontraded a reasonable pick to get Luke Penny in as a replacement for him as well.

Meanwhile the pick we got and traded to Carlton (4) could have netted a man by the name of Shaun Burgoyne who also played against us that night (I think).

Hamil was a big deal for us but you shouldn’t forget that he was expensive for a guy that played for 5 years

[SaintPav]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

He missed 11 games in his first 5 years at the club and was a ferious attacker of the football which lead to his crippling injuries in 06 and 07 and forced his retirement miway though 07. His impact, along with Gehtig, on the development of the younger stars of his era at St.Kilda was unquestionable.

Agree but it didn’t end well retiring at just 30. He was just what we needed in 09 and 10.

That's a long bow to draw in my opinion. 'Hamill turned out great' rings a bit clearer than 'his retirement cost us 2 flags' and the Guitars4 comment was troll worthy IMHO.

I didn’t exactly say that..

[Yorkeys]

So did we take out insurance, will there be personal accountability on the decision maker if Hannebery proves to be a dud, and how do the rest of the list feel about his package compared to his actual performance. At this point Steele looks miles ahead of Mr Hannebury in a number of ways (i.e. has actually won a kick in a competitive game). For heavens sake this better be fake news. If not why not invest in Paton, Phillips, Clarke et al rather than this questionable value for money commodity. Hamstring early Feb.? after reportedly fronting in Olympic medal condition, FFS, come on club, buy a footy brain and respect your long suffering members. It has to be wrong, $800k x 5 yrs for a suspect hammy, I know we can do better at the Vic markets. Please show it is just baiting. If he (H'bery) can't stand up for R1 then it means we could have flicked AR instead, got a good coach and been so much better off. It is fake news/baiting, right? and I've bitten.

[SaintPav]

There’s no real reason why it can’t be both.

Hamil was great. His influence was instrumental in the development of a driven young core and change in culture. It’s unquestionable.

Did we get the onfield value from him that we needed? Absolutely not. He missed 2 prelims and was retired in what 07 or 08.

And comparing Hanners to Frazer and Hamil is irrelevant and nonsensical anyway

[skeptic]

So did we take out insurance, will there be personal accountability on the decision maker if Hannebery proves to be a dud, and how do the rest of the list feel about his package compared to his actual performance. At this point Steele looks miles ahead of Mr Hannebury in a number of ways (i.e. has actually won a kick in a competitive game). For heavens sake this better be fake news. If not why not invest in Paton, Phillips, Clarke et al rather than this questionable value for money commodity. Hamstring early Feb.? after reportedly fronting in Olympic medal condition, FFS, come on club, buy a footy brain and respect your long suffering members. It has to be wrong, $800k x 5 yrs for a suspect hammy, I know we can do better at the Vic markets. Please show it is just baiting. If he (H'bery) can't stand up for R1 then it means we could have flicked AR instead, got a good coach and been so much better off. It is fake news/baiting, right? and I've bitten.

The reality is that the club did its due diligence and made a judgment call.

We as fans have been asked to back that they know what they’re doing being privy to more info.

The level of confidence in said judgment varies from fan to fan

[CQ SAINT]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

He missed 11 games in his first 5 years at the club and was a ferious attacker of the football which lead to his crippling injuries in 06 and 07 and forced his retirement miway though 07. His impact, along with Gehtig, on the development of the younger stars of his era at St.Kilda was unquestionable.

Agree but it didn’t end well retiring at just 30. He was just what we needed in 09 and 10.

That's a long bow to draw in my opinion. 'Hamill turned out great' rings a bit clearer than 'his retirement cost us 2 flags' and the Guitars4 comment was troll worthy IMHO.

I didn’t exactly say that..

Fair call. I agree with your argument. It was the other comment which got my goat. Sorry for the dramatic paraphrase.

[guitars4]

Sainters have short memories. Gehrig and Hamill (2 big name recruits) had plenty of injury problems early on and they turned out great.

You can't compare Freeman to Hannebery either. Totally different scenario and background. For instance, Dan H picked up over 25 posessions in his first game back from injury v Melbourne late in the season last year. He is a 3 x AA that has already played a decade of senior footy in a top club.

The main goal is to try get Dan H fit for Rd 1, along with Jake Carlisle. We have very good fitness staff (close to the best in the league apparently) so have a little faith.

Hamill turned out great?

Didn't we give him a 5 year contract as well ? Would have been lucky to play 2 years if you take out all the games he missed through injury. You would think we would learn from the sin's of the past obviously not

He missed 11 games in his first 5 years at the club and was a ferious attacker of the football which lead to his crippling injuries in 06 and 07 and forced his retirement miway though 07. His impact, along with Gehtig, on the development of the younger stars of his era at St.Kilda was unquestionable.

I didn't say in his first 5 years. I'm sure we extended his contract after his first few years for another 5 years & I could be wrong but I don't think he played a single game in his last year. Even his last few years he was always 2 weeks away but 2 weeks became 4 & 4 became 8 . I would be interested if someone actually knows how many games he played in his last 3 years. I never doubted his courage or commitment & I don't question Dan's either just don't agree with signing injury prone guys on lucrative long contracts. Yes I can see benefit in having these type of blokes around the club but if there not on the park it seems like a big waste IMO