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Re: New AFLX format

Post: # 1770703Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

I comprehended very easily that its a s*** and dud idea. Sure I'm not the only one.


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And we wait until some high profile player does a knee ............


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Post: # 1770728Post portosaint »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 17 Dec 2018 8:31pm
tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Mon 17 Dec 2018 8:11pm What market is the new AFLX aimed at then? Please elaborate in detail.

95-9% of AFL followers won't gice two s***s about this garbage and can't wait for the season to start.
People are smoking pot if they also think this sort of concept will ever catch on outside Australia (not a chance) or suddenly bring in a new crowd of AFL followers within Australia.
It’s aimed at the under 20s, not the over 60s.

Twenty20 cricket, fast5 netball, Big 3 basketball, arena football, futsal, Rugby 7s, fast4 tennis, better cancel them all as I’m sure Ted doesn’t approve... :roll:

What’s your opinion on Twenty20 cricket? Because I have a feeling 1 billion Indians disagree with you.

It continues to boggle my mind the inability people have to comprehend that others may like something they don’t, especially when that thing is 100% not aimed at them...
The corny names suggest it may actually be aimed at the under 10 age group.

The concept doesn't bother me... But the marketing side of it seems rather amateurish. IMO of course


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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Mon 17 Dec 2018 9:19am You have got to be kidding me. This is akin to playing footy at lunch time when in high school.
Can't say it interests me greatly, but I am not the target market.
I'll watch a match before I make comment positively or negatively.

I spend my time between VIC, NSW & QLD.
I like 20/20 cricket & the BBL and love Rugby 7's, it is fast, furious & fantastic.

The AFL haven't finalised a shortened version as yet that will draw the young supporter, perhaps this is it?
Can't say the marvel hype interests me, but I'll watch it before I write it off.

What would have been your comment Ted if this was a St kilda initiative where we were playing a round robin at Moorabbin with 4 sides lead by Geary, Steele, Hanners & Carslile?

Pretty sure it would have been first class initiative and great innovation by the astute saints.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:50am What would have been your comment Ted if this was a St kilda initiative where we were playing a round robin at Moorabbin with 4 sides lead by Geary, Steele, Hanners & Carslile?

Pretty sure it would have been first class initiative and great innovation by the astute saints.
LOL. Correct.

I'm surprised at how negative Ted has been about this concept, not the usual 'balanced' perspective he brings to constructive discussion on this board.


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Post: # 1770734Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Would have been a s*** idea too. Its kindergarten hour garbage this new concept. I have lost interest already.

This thread isn't about me...once again. Comment on the AFLX or don't comment.


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Right you are...heaven forfend we go off topic, Ted!


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Post: # 1770737Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Yeah, just stick to the topic. How hard is it?
How did another thread start turning into me again? Its harassment and bullying to be honest. The mod should take note.


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Post: # 1770739Post degruch »

Harassment and bullying? Oh, you mean, like you and Saynta have been doing to forumites on here for the last month or so? Hmmm...not to the same degree, no.

Anyway, this is a public forum and I clearly wasn't speaking to you.


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Post: # 1770740Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Yep, whatever. Anyway...

What are your thoughts on the new AFLX concept?
Do you like the jumper designs?


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Post: # 1770742Post Joffa Burns »

tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 11:16am
This thread isn't about me...once again. Comment on the AFLX or don't comment.
Thanks for informing me on what I am allowed to comment on Ted, I was a little confused :?

Pretty sure my below post covers the fact I will wait to see AFLX before passing judgement but does reference my like for the shortened version of cricket & rugby.

Joffa Burns wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:50am
Can't say it interests me greatly, but I am not the target market.
I'll watch a match before I make comment positively or negatively.

I spend my time between VIC, NSW & QLD.
I like 20/20 cricket & the BBL and love Rugby 7's, it is fast, furious & fantastic.

The AFL haven't finalised a shortened version as yet that will draw the young supporter, perhaps this is it?
Can't say the marvel hype interests me, but I'll watch it before I write it off.


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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 11:38am Yep, whatever. Anyway...

What are your thoughts on the new AFLX concept?
Do you like the jumper designs?
I'm not a fan, but as I've never played AFLX, I'm not really qualified to have an opinion. :wink:

The jumper designs are marvellous, anyone who says otherwise is a gutless keyboard warrior with no real interest in jumpers. :wink: :wink: :wink:


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Sadly, it wouldn't be all that surprising if it actually catches on. I mean, 20-20 cricket has been a success. Wasn't that sh!t-canned initially by cricket fans? You really can't underestimate the average fan of spectator sports.


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Our footy is based on tribal support for the Club.

AFLX takes the tribal support out of the equation. To me it is crap.


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Devilhead wrote: Mon 17 Dec 2018 9:12pm And we wait until some high profile player does a knee ............


So what...? They would probably go harder at training all preseason.

This really isn't a real argument. It's the same game, with less contact.

It's not like they are being asked to go skiing or play basketball. That's when you can play the injury card.


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owenthe wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 4:36pm Our footy is based on tribal support for the Club.

AFLX takes the tribal support out of the equation. To me it is crap.
Exactly. No one will have an ounce of emotional attachment to any of these 4 sides.


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AFL fans complaining they’re not going to watch a game that is 100% not aimed at them.

I would have thought such a simple and obvious concept wouldn’t be too hard to understand...


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The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 9:43pm AFL fans complaining they’re not going to watch a game that is 100% not aimed at them.
So who is it aimed at?
Hasn't Larundel and the Kew Cottages been closed down?


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Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:01pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 9:43pm AFL fans complaining they’re not going to watch a game that is 100% not aimed at them.
So who is it aimed at?
Hasn't Larundel and the Kew Cottages been closed down?
It’s aimed at people who aren’t football fans.
It’s aimed at people who aren’t going to bother committing 3 hours of their time to watch a game, but might give a 20 minute taster a try.
It’s aimed at people who have a rugby pitch and 12-20 people, not a cricket oval and 40.
It’s aimed at school PE teachers who are looking for a game they can play with a class full of kids and 30 minutes.
It’s something different aimed at trying to attract NEW supporters, not appease those who are already fully paid up.
If you are currently reading this forum, it is NOT aimed at you, so the fact you are complaining is inconsequential.

I am not a rugby union fan but I watch rugby7s. I am not a soccer fan but I’ve played Futsal.

It may work or it may not, but at least they’re trying something different that has no effect on the main product. AFL is a business, they’re trying to find new customers, hence why they expanded into GWS and GC and not Tasmania, a market they already have wrapped up.

The ability to stop and try understand things from a totally foreign point of view than your own is a skill I would suggest everyone learn.


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The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:15pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:01pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 9:43pm AFL fans complaining they’re not going to watch a game that is 100% not aimed at them.
So who is it aimed at?
Hasn't Larundel and the Kew Cottages been closed down?
It’s aimed at people who aren’t football fans.
It’s aimed at people who aren’t going to bother committing 3 hours of their time to watch a game, but might give a 20 minute taster a try.
It’s aimed at people who have a rugby pitch and 12-20 people, not a cricket oval and 40.
It’s aimed at school PE teachers who are looking for a game they can play with a class full of kids and 30 minutes.
It’s something different aimed at trying to attract NEW supporters, not appease those who are already fully paid up.
If you are currently reading this forum, it is NOT aimed at you, so the fact you are complaining is inconsequential.

I am not a rugby union fan but I watch rugby7s. I am not a soccer fan but I’ve played Futsal.

It may work or it may not, but at least they’re trying something different that has no effect on the main product. AFL is a business, they’re trying to find new customers, hence why they expanded into GWS and GC and not Tasmania, a market they already have wrapped up.

The ability to stop and try understand things from a totally foreign point of view than your own is a skill I would suggest everyone learn.
Pot.. Kettle... Black?

A very quick scout over your posting would suggest you don't accept a foreign point of view quite regularly.

Everyone has an opinion, as you do on various other topics. Get off your high horse man


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portosaint wrote: Wed 19 Dec 2018 8:08pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:15pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:01pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 9:43pm AFL fans complaining they’re not going to watch a game that is 100% not aimed at them.
So who is it aimed at?
Hasn't Larundel and the Kew Cottages been closed down?
It’s aimed at people who aren’t football fans.
It’s aimed at people who aren’t going to bother committing 3 hours of their time to watch a game, but might give a 20 minute taster a try.
It’s aimed at people who have a rugby pitch and 12-20 people, not a cricket oval and 40.
It’s aimed at school PE teachers who are looking for a game they can play with a class full of kids and 30 minutes.
It’s something different aimed at trying to attract NEW supporters, not appease those who are already fully paid up.
If you are currently reading this forum, it is NOT aimed at you, so the fact you are complaining is inconsequential.

I am not a rugby union fan but I watch rugby7s. I am not a soccer fan but I’ve played Futsal.

It may work or it may not, but at least they’re trying something different that has no effect on the main product. AFL is a business, they’re trying to find new customers, hence why they expanded into GWS and GC and not Tasmania, a market they already have wrapped up.

The ability to stop and try understand things from a totally foreign point of view than your own is a skill I would suggest everyone learn.
Pot.. Kettle... Black?

A very quick scout over your posting would suggest you don't accept a foreign point of view quite regularly.

Everyone has an opinion, as you do on various other topics. Get off your high horse man
What opinion? They asked who it is aimed at, I told them. That’s just stating facts.

AFL members questioning the point of AFLX is like people with 20/20 vision questioning the point of glasses. It’s not about you.

Now my opinion... I have little to no interest in it, I won’t be watching it, though despite that I can still understand why it exists.


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The_Dud wrote: Wed 19 Dec 2018 8:22pm
portosaint wrote: Wed 19 Dec 2018 8:08pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:15pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:01pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 9:43pm AFL fans complaining they’re not going to watch a game that is 100% not aimed at them.
So who is it aimed at?
Hasn't Larundel and the Kew Cottages been closed down?
It’s aimed at people who aren’t football fans.
It’s aimed at people who aren’t going to bother committing 3 hours of their time to watch a game, but might give a 20 minute taster a try.
It’s aimed at people who have a rugby pitch and 12-20 people, not a cricket oval and 40.
It’s aimed at school PE teachers who are looking for a game they can play with a class full of kids and 30 minutes.
It’s something different aimed at trying to attract NEW supporters, not appease those who are already fully paid up.
If you are currently reading this forum, it is NOT aimed at you, so the fact you are complaining is inconsequential.

I am not a rugby union fan but I watch rugby7s. I am not a soccer fan but I’ve played Futsal.

It may work or it may not, but at least they’re trying something different that has no effect on the main product. AFL is a business, they’re trying to find new customers, hence why they expanded into GWS and GC and not Tasmania, a market they already have wrapped up.

The ability to stop and try understand things from a totally foreign point of view than your own is a skill I would suggest everyone learn.
Pot.. Kettle... Black?

A very quick scout over your posting would suggest you don't accept a foreign point of view quite regularly.

Everyone has an opinion, as you do on various other topics. Get off your high horse man
What opinion? They asked who it is aimed at, I told them. That’s just stating facts.

AFL members questioning the point of AFLX is like people with 20/20 vision questioning the point of glasses. It’s not about you.

Now my opinion... I have little to no interest in it, I won’t be watching it, though despite that I can still understand why it exists.
Huh?? You missed my point.


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portosaint wrote: Wed 19 Dec 2018 10:32pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 19 Dec 2018 8:22pm
portosaint wrote: Wed 19 Dec 2018 8:08pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:15pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:01pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 18 Dec 2018 9:43pm AFL fans complaining they’re not going to watch a game that is 100% not aimed at them.
So who is it aimed at?
Hasn't Larundel and the Kew Cottages been closed down?
It’s aimed at people who aren’t football fans.
It’s aimed at people who aren’t going to bother committing 3 hours of their time to watch a game, but might give a 20 minute taster a try.
It’s aimed at people who have a rugby pitch and 12-20 people, not a cricket oval and 40.
It’s aimed at school PE teachers who are looking for a game they can play with a class full of kids and 30 minutes.
It’s something different aimed at trying to attract NEW supporters, not appease those who are already fully paid up.
If you are currently reading this forum, it is NOT aimed at you, so the fact you are complaining is inconsequential.

I am not a rugby union fan but I watch rugby7s. I am not a soccer fan but I’ve played Futsal.

It may work or it may not, but at least they’re trying something different that has no effect on the main product. AFL is a business, they’re trying to find new customers, hence why they expanded into GWS and GC and not Tasmania, a market they already have wrapped up.

The ability to stop and try understand things from a totally foreign point of view than your own is a skill I would suggest everyone learn.
Pot.. Kettle... Black?

A very quick scout over your posting would suggest you don't accept a foreign point of view quite regularly.

Everyone has an opinion, as you do on various other topics. Get off your high horse man
What opinion? They asked who it is aimed at, I told them. That’s just stating facts.

AFL members questioning the point of AFLX is like people with 20/20 vision questioning the point of glasses. It’s not about you.

Now my opinion... I have little to no interest in it, I won’t be watching it, though despite that I can still understand why it exists.
Huh?? You missed my point.
There’s a difference between using stats to argue whether Longer or Hickey are the better ruck option and claiming something has no merit purely because it doesn’t benefit you personally.


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AFLX - just another part of the fairy floss movement in sport around the world.

You can’t blame the AFL for giving it a go, good business, may attract new patrons, and caters for the exploding global lustprinzip trend - instant gratification, fleeting thrills and brief but non lasting satisfaction - but, the AFL hopes, leaving patrons waiting anxiously for the next “sensational” event.

The AFL is going OK, so doesn’t need AFLX to fund its future, unlike real cricket (Tests and 4 day matches), which is very dependent on IPL/BBL etc for its funding. IPL/BBL represents nothing, consists of teams made of from anyone, and leaves nothing. Who won BBL/IPL last year? So non cricket, despite it diluting the skills and endurance required for the real game, is here to stay, and imo Test cricket will unfortunately be gone in a few years, except for Aust v England.

AFL is under no such threat at the moment, so AFLX will just be a publicity gimmick, hopefully forever. Fairy floss - bright and puffy, gets sticky, and disappears. For me the grind of a 22 round season, weekly highlights and skills, the ups and downs, peaking at the pointy end - that is AFL football. But if AFLX brings more interest to the real game, and does not lead to its dilution, then fair enough.


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