Max King in our thinking

[saintrod]

For all the people that are so keen to get Max King does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dra ... 50hfa.html

[saintsRrising]

For all the people that are so keen to get Max King does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dra ... 50hfa.html

Actually the part of the article that raised my eyebrows was:

National recruiting boss Chris Liberatore is a huge fan of South Australian midfield gun Connor Rozee, while head of footy Simon Lethlean has kept a close eye on King for years.

If true that will maintain the St Kilda tradition of the recruiter being overuled...

[Thesaint127]

For all the people that are so keen to get Max King does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dra ... 50hfa.html

Actually the part of the article that raised my eyebrows was:

National recruiting boss Chris Liberatore is a huge fan of South Australian midfield gun Connor Rozee, while head of footy Simon Lethlean has kept a close eye on King for years.

If true that will maintain the St Kilda tradition of the recruiter being overuled...

What other of our picks in the past have seen the recruiter overruled?

[mightysainters]

Can’t believe we are going to take the second best KPF in the best midfielder top end talent draft in a long time.. just lost for words

[Jacks Back]

I just want to break down King's scoring shots from the round 2 vs Oakleigh video (the infamous match that people say shows he would have gone at pick 1 if not for the ACL)

- Wins a free kick for HTB. Set shot from 50 on almost no angle and sprays it out on the full
- Contested mark 30m out, kicks on a moderate angle and misses to the left
- Juggles a mark in the goal square and kicks it at point blank range
- Marks on the lead 35m out directly in front, misses to the left
- Contested mark 40m out, misses to the left
- Handball receive 20m out, snaps a goal
- Contested mark, opponent falls over and King runs in to kick goal from point blank
- Loose ball get, snaps a goal on an angle from 20m out
- Questionable free kick, misses from 50m no angle
- Free kick in goal square, goal
- Marks near the behind post, misses from sharp angle
- Contested mark 25m out no angle, goal
- Mark 30m out no angle, goal
- Mark on lead 20m out slight angle, goal

14 shots
8 goals
5 behinds
1 out on the full

3 goals from point blank range
2 snaps from general play
3 from set shots within 30m of goal

5 misses from set shots 30m-50m from goal and 1 miss from a sharp angle close to goal

I know it's a small sample size but I'd be very concerned if we land another forward who can't kick a goal from 40m out directly in front. It must also be noted that King had a massive size advantage to his opponent for the entire game. Looks like a good 12cm difference. It worries me that we could be drafting another kid who stars as a junior because he's so much bigger than his opponents and he's never matched up against an experience defender who knows how to use their body to stop him having a clean jump at the ball. Those factors along with the ACL and the current makeup of our list make me very concerned about using pick 4 on King.

Tom Boyd was supposed to be a once in a generation talent. Josh Schache was supposed to be a superstar. Paddy McCartin was supposed to be the next Josh Kennedy. John Butcher, Scott Gumbleton, Kristian Jaksch, Tyrone Vickery, Jarrad Grant, Mitch Thorp, Beau Dowler etc....

He played against skinny boys shorter than himself

[chico2001]

For all the people that are so keen to get Max King does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dra ... 50hfa.html

Nothing like due diligence. One of the few business transactions where you pay nothing up front for a commodity but costs you plenty at the end if it doesn't work out..

[DJ Higgins]

Didn't realise it was that high a chance If doing it again. That is a worry but again it is the Judd scenario. Teams passed on him due in part to his shoulders. Big mistake.

A bit unfair to criticise King on beating kids smaller than.him as you can only beat those on you but it is a point of concern as well.

[DJ Higgins]

Didn't realise it was that high a chance If doing it again. That is a worry but again it is the Judd scenario. Teams passed on him due in part to his shoulders. Big mistake.

A bit unfair to criticise King on beating kids smaller than.him as you can only beat those on you but it is a point of concern as well. I blame Gresham for kicking that goal but in a perfect world.Sun's take max king and we get Lukosius.

[saintsRrising]

For all the people that are so keen to get Max King does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dra ... 50hfa.html

Actually the part of the article that raised my eyebrows was:

National recruiting boss Chris Liberatore is a huge fan of South Australian midfield gun Connor Rozee, while head of footy Simon Lethlean has kept a close eye on King for years.

If true that will maintain the St Kilda tradition of the recruiter being overuled...

What other of our picks in the past have seen the recruiter overruled?

There is a recent thread on one ex-recruiters experiences not long back. He wanted Darling and Rioli amongst others.

Plus Judd on....

[kosifantutti]

Apparently Max King is working out at Moorabbin today.

[saintsRrising]

Apparently Max King is working out at Moorabbin today.

I tend to think that unless Max goes in the first 3 that the Saints will take him at 4.

If Lucky is not taken in the first 3 that may well cause a good offer for pick 4. Otherwise I think it will be Saint Max.

[magnifisaint]

For all the people that are so keen to get Max King does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dra ... 50hfa.html

Really. What a load of s***

[magnifisaint]

Can’t believe we are going to take the second best KPF in the best midfielder top end talent draft in a long time.. just lost for words

What concrete evidence do you have?

[mightysainters]

Can’t believe we are going to take the second best KPF in the best midfielder top end talent draft in a long time.. just lost for words

What concrete evidence do you have?

A lot of people I have spoken to saying he’s the preferred.. a couple who would have an inkling..
need to pray someone is around who we didn’t think was going to be

[vacuous space]

...does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

Unless I'm misunderstanding, that would mean that the most likely scenario is there's no recurrence of the injury.

[SaintPav]

He’ll be a bust...

[Sainter_Dad]

He’ll be a bust...

I have seen some impressive busts in my time!

[CQ SAINT]

For all the people that are so keen to get Max King does anyone not think that it is a big concern that AFL doctors effectively rate him as having a 30% chance of having another ACL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dra ... 50hfa.html

He is actually 100% chance of having another ACL. Its on his other knee.
Some doctors proposed that there was a 70% chance that the injury wont happen again to the same knee.

[stonecold]

He’ll be a bust...

Better bookmark this post Pav!!!!!

[dragit]

Getting the best midfielder is strategy no. 1.

Take it to the bank.

ITCUK confirmed.

[chico2001]

He’ll be a bust...

Better bookmark this post Pav!!!!!

Yes, might have put a foot in it there Pav. Might even be a good chance of winning the "early crow" award for 2018/19. I won it in the 70's and in 1982 with a dud called Lockett. It is very hard to win..

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

He’ll be a bust...

Better bookmark this post Pav!!!!!

Lol

[magnifisaint]

He's not in our thinking he's in our reality

[SaintPav]

He’ll be a bust...

Better bookmark this post Pav!!!!!

Yes, might have put a foot in it there Pav. Might even be a good chance of winning the "early crow" award for 2018/19. I won it in the 70's and in 1982 with a dud called Lockett. It is very hard to win..

There’s a method to my posts.

In 2016 I predicted Dogs wouldn’t even make the 8.

Get the picture