Wooden Spoon or 17th in 2019

[samuraisaint]

100% correct, CG only team worse - and by a bit. Carlton improve with McGovern and better younger players get bigger and more experience - Curnow, Cripps, Dow, .

We add back Robbo and Bruce ( CHB?) and Hannebery (injury concerns).

With respect to both of these will make us better but not much - Brisbane, Freo and WB all improved much more than we did in this time.
Not to mention coaching/game plan issues.

17th is fair and likely

Freo get Hogan who has a navicular injury and lose Lauchie Neale their second best player. I wouldn't think they all of a sudden improve a lot. Brisbane get Neale but lose one of their leaders in Beames. We should finish around 8th to 12th in reality unless we have another injury prone year.

Agree with this. I reckon 10th is about right

We'd have to win 11 games to do this, and have a % of about 100. We play 7 games outside of Victoria, plus one at Geelong. That's 8 games outside Melbourne. Don't think so.

[brewski]

The Saints list is alot better than our position last year. Alot better. We will surprise alot of people, including our own supporters.

So what you are really saying is that the coach cant motivate this list.............thanks for the confirmation Ted

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

No

[axcellence]