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fugazi wrote: ↑Wed 24 Oct 2018 10:35pm
So all the people who scorned anyone suggesting that his diabetes was going to be a problem.....
Not only does he have trouble with blood sugar levels within a game
Not only does he take longer to recover from games and injuries
But now, we hear he gets fat while he sleeps?
I know he's a good kid and he doesn't blame his condition...but FFS why did we take that risk with pick 1?
Millionth time we have gone thru it I know.
Good luck Paddy maybe 2019 will be your year.
Largely spot on. Paddy has never complained and if we're all going to burn down the village and affix blame to anyone in this process - it's our recruiting team.
Then again - they were faced with (1) Picking Petracca who deliberately fire-bombed his interview process with us and hence, was a significant flight risk after 2 years or (2) Picked Paddy and here we are now. In some ways it was a lose/lose as neither have really been befitting of a pick 1 or 2 (and I know plenty of Dees supporters who're as royally frustrated with front-running 'trac' as we've often been with Paddy.
The irony of course being that pick 3 (A Brayshaw) is now the jet of the 3 and the one I'd want right now given the choice (or that De Goey kid at pick 5 ). But even up until late last season, Brayshaw was 1 more concussion and De Goey another lifestyle c**k-up away from being doneski.
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Paddy smashes his PB in 3km time trial Post by parkeysainter » Wed 08 Nov 2017 9:47pm
The old 3km ball buster. It really sorts out the boys from the men in the fitness stakes.
Great to see Paddy smash his personal PB in pre-season training. Very positive news and he is looking fit from all reports.
You seem like a lot of fun Gwilty. Fancy getting together to suck on lemons for a few hours? Might follow up with a session of standing in a cold puddle of water. Will be the best time you've had in years.
magnifisaint wrote: ↑Wed 24 Oct 2018 11:12am
Why has it taken him this long to figure out that he's fat?
You can't keep blaming diabetes.
That's a seriously uneducated question / comment. Poor form.
But for the record - here's something about Paddy's particular condition that you might want to get yourself educated on. And by particular, I mean relating to him and not all diabetics.
Paddy's body has a somewhat strange metabolism in that, during prolonged rest state, he actually puts on weight. In layman's terms - he actually puts on weight when he sleeps. Not water weight, actually body fat. Virtually no one without diabetes has that condition and it's not overly common in those with type-1 diabetes. Every noticed how when he's injured and does mini pre-seasons and he looks pretty trim and lean? That's what overt and prolonged exercise and activity does to HIS body. But, when that intense exercise stops (i.e. in-season when the training is less intense and more about recovery) that's when the weight can come back on hence, he appears heavier.
I've not heard Paddy publicly complain about his diabetes once nor blame it for any outcome in his career but you seem to have put those words in his mouth. So - well done you - good job.
I actually really hope Paddy fires up and shows more of what there's been glimpses of so far. He's got his challenges, like a lot of people but, it appears he's having a fair crack at doing everything he can do to make himself better footballer for our club.
So I have to ask ... what is this Other metabolic condition called ? It’s the first time I’m hearing Paddy has this
When was this other condition diagnosed?
How do you know ?
Did our recruiters know when they they recruited him ?
If you read my post - it's not an 'other' condition. It's the way HIS particular body manifests type 1 diabetes.
I have no idea whether our recruiters knew this when they selected him or when it was discovered - best you ask them.
I'm just sick and tired of all the bullsh!t innuendo and slagging-off of a guy who has an issue that makes it difficult for him to be great hence, I thought it time to share some facts to set the record straight.
That said, I'm sure there'll be some on here that will find a new issue to bag Paddy on.
I dont blame his diabetes or being 5-10 kilos overweight . I watched him give a half ass effort more than one game where he acts like he cant be assed to get in the front of his man and take a lead mark on the chest. I have seen him play quite well and act motivated to lead, mark or at least contest. My gripe is that he appears to lack either the confidence, the actual ability, or maybe he's just afraid after 6 concussions. I dont know. But it seems if he thinks he can beat someone he goes for the ball but he got soundly manhandled by most clubs defenders in most games he played. Let's hope it is only confidence and that getting down to the weight he was last year at preseason ( means zero) will give him some magical powers to be the player I just don't think he will ever be, but so desperately hope to be wrong 5yrs in.....
fugazi wrote: ↑Wed 24 Oct 2018 10:35pm
So all the people who scorned anyone suggesting that his diabetes was going to be a problem.....
Not only does he have trouble with blood sugar levels within a game
Not only does he take longer to recover from games and injuries
But now, we hear he gets fat while he sleeps?
I know he's a good kid and he doesn't blame his condition...but FFS why did we take that risk with pick 1?
Millionth time we have gone thru it I know.
Good luck Paddy maybe 2019 will be your year.
Largely spot on. Paddy has never complained and if we're all going to burn down the village and affix blame to anyone in this process - it's our recruiting team.
Then again - they were faced with (1) Picking Petracca who deliberately fire-bombed his interview process with us and hence, was a significant flight risk after 2 years or (2) Picked Paddy and here we are now. In some ways it was a lose/lose as neither have really been befitting of a pick 1 or 2 (and I know plenty of Dees supporters who're as royally frustrated with front-running 'trac' as we've often been with Paddy.
The irony of course being that pick 3 (A Brayshaw) is now the jet of the 3 and the one I'd want right now given the choice (or that De Goey kid at pick 5 ). But even up until late last season, Brayshaw was 1 more concussion and De Goey another lifestyle c**k-up away from being doneski.
Or you get creative and package that No.1 pick for a mix of picks/players, esp if we had any concerns about he or Pratracca. You certainly don't accept a lose/lose proposition when you have the first pick in the draft.
In saying that, he was highly rated for a reason, lets hope Paddy has now matured and developed to the point where he can make a real impact on the competition..
So it was a bad year to have pick 1 with not a lot on offer and we choose poorly. Someone with diabetes is a risk and has come back to night us. I also find it hard to believe that he didn't know he was not afl standard with that extra fat.
No second efforts, poor kicking and marking, I remember one shot on goal went backwards and lost count.We need improvement this year or I think we have to face facts that he is a dud
DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Mon 29 Oct 2018 8:55am
So it was a bad year to have pick 1 with not a lot on offer and we choose poorly. Someone with diabetes is a risk and has come back to night us. I also find it hard to believe that he didn't know he was not afl standard with that extra fat.
No second efforts, poor kicking and marking, I remember one shot on goal went backwards and lost count.We need improvement this year or I think we have to face facts that he is a dud
Paddy is far from a dud and I think people that make the call that he is have no idea at all.
DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Mon 29 Oct 2018 8:55am
So it was a bad year to have pick 1 with not a lot on offer and we choose poorly. Someone with diabetes is a risk and has come back to bite us. I also find it hard to believe that he didn't know he was not afl standard with that extra fat.
No second efforts, poor kicking and marking, I remember one shot on goal went backwards and lost count how many sitters, both marks and shots eh butchered. We need improvement this year or I think we have to face facts that he is a dud
Paddy is far from a dud and I think people that make the call that he is have no idea at all.
CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Oct 2018 9:14am
Paddy is far from a dud and I think people that make the call that he is have no idea at all.
I believe the proof is in the pudding and if he has another substandard year where he appears to be a liability and not adding value up forward what do you want us to do?
Keep him for ever. Look I hope he becomes a gun, I do and kpp take time to deliver but how long do we keep him for. If we get lukosius or heaven forbid max king, another key forward prospect with a medical concern, spots up forward become harder to get and we can't keep all the forwards, someone has to go
Of all the number one picks still playing Paddy would be at the very bottom, fighting with weitering and boyd for relevancy, and boyd will at least retire knowing he played a huge role in a flag.
so yes, so far he has been a dud. all we can do is hope something changes, but also hope the club is being proactive in looking elsewhere.
"The starting point of all achievement is desire. "
). But even up until late last season, Brayshaw was 1 more concussion and De Goey another lifestyle c**k-up away from being doneski.
