Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

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Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762670Post Sainter_Dad »

North just got Aaron Hall for pick 68.

Were we in the hunt?
Would he have been worth it?
Or is he another, like Scully, that does not want to be traded to St Kilda?

Hawthorn just got jack Scrimshaw for a future 3rd - with a future 4th coming back

If things go as expected and Hawthorn are in the 8 in 2019 and the Suns finish bottom 4 it could be that Hawthorn got Scrimshaw for a down grade of picks by less than 10.

Were we in the hunt?
Would he have been worth it?
Or is he another, like Scully, that does not want to be traded to St Kilda?


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

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Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762676Post Rocket »

Our list is fine ...
we will trade aggressively....
we have delivered “f all” so far ....


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762678Post derby Street »

takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Not overly excited by that lot - perhaps Clarke has some improvement. However Hall is a big steal for Norf.


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762679Post ss1986 »

derby Street wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 12:02pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Not overly excited by that lot - perhaps Clarke has some improvement. However Hall is a big steal for Norf.
Every.single.one of them would play in our 22


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762681Post takeaway »

derby Street wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 12:02pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Not overly excited by that lot - perhaps Clarke has some improvement. However Hall is a big steal for Norf.
I was only giving examples of random lesser players that have been traded - you can't go for everyone. Some posters want 15 players traded in each year and 15 out. In that scenario at least you would get pick 1 every year.


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

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Rocket wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:30am Our list is fine ...
we will trade aggressively....
we have delivered “f all” so far ....
I wouldn’t say f**k all, Hannebery is still an A-grader, was previously elite but possibly past his best now, hence why we got him relatively cheaply.

Kent though, let’s be honest, is just another depth player to compliment our already large list of depth players. Again, hence why we got him so cheaply.

I agree though, the club would have to net another exciting player to call this an aggressive trade period.


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

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takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Mind you, we were the first club tied to Hall when rumours started about him leaving the Suns...was it media speculation, knowing we were after an established outside mid? Did we investigate and go cold? Did he investigate and go cold? We could go on guessing forever.


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762711Post derby Street »

ss1986 wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 12:08pm
derby Street wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 12:02pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Not overly excited by that lot - perhaps Clarke has some improvement. However Hall is a big steal for Norf.
Every.single.one of them would play in our 22
Really - tell me whose spots they are taking. Or are you just saying they would play the odd game?


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762732Post Joffa Burns »

Sainter_Dad wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 10:42am North just got Aaron Hall for pick 68.

Were we in the hunt?
Would he have been worth it?
Or is he another, like Scully, that does not want to be traded to St Kilda?

Hawthorn just got jack Scrimshaw for a future 3rd - with a future 4th coming back

If things go as expected and Hawthorn are in the 8 in 2019 and the Suns finish bottom 4 it could be that Hawthorn got Scrimshaw for a down grade of picks by less than 10.

Were we in the hunt?
Would he have been worth it?
Or is he another, like Scully, that does not want to be traded to St Kilda?
Hall has no defensive side to his game at all but has skills, pace and is a long kick.
Pretty good get at 68 for mine, would have thought pick in the late 30's to 40's would have been reasonable.

Scrimshaw deal is about what I expected, I have watched him play live a few times and wrote previously on here he is worth a 4th rounder at best. Is the least combative player I have seen play since Jack Watts and Rhys Stanley.


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SydneySainter wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 12:32pm
Rocket wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:30am Our list is fine ...
we will trade aggressively....
we have delivered “f all” so far ....
I wouldn’t say f**k all, Hannebery is still an A-grader, was previously elite but possibly past his best now, hence why we got him relatively cheaply.

Kent though, let’s be honest, is just another depth player to compliment our already large list of depth players. Again, hence why we got him so cheaply.

I agree though, the club would have to net another exciting player to call this an aggressive trade period.
I dispute that Hannebery is still an A grader- the stats don't support that argument, 18 disposals a game and very average efficiency- that's not the stuff of A graders. We need to face facts- he came to the saints because no one else wanted him (including Sydney). If we are expecting Kent and Hannebery are going to turn things around- we are deusional


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762736Post Joffa Burns »

takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Question is why would you want any of those players?


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

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Joffa Burns wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 5:01pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Question is why would you want any of those players?
You misunderstand - I don't. The above players were picked at random amongst the traded players to illustrate that we can't go after everyone - the OP was saying why didn't we go after Hall? Why didn't we go after Scrimshaw?
Suggest you read the posts again.


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Re: Hall for Pick 68 // Scrimshaw for a 2019 3rd Rounder

Post: # 1762742Post Joffa Burns »

takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 5:14pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 5:01pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:29am Gary Rohan - were we in the hunt?
Jasper Pittard - were we in the hunt?
Ryan Clarke - were we in the hunt?
Lincoln McCarthy - were we in the hunt? etc etc Did they all not want to go to the Saints?

List management can't target everyone. They would cast the net as wide as possible and identify targets on a needs basis and go after them. It is not an entertainment avenue for supporters, but a process to improve player lists.
They could I suppose employ another 40 recruitment staff and go for everyone.
Question is why would you want any of those players?
You misunderstand - I don't. The above players were picked at random amongst the traded players to illustrate that we can't go after everyone - the OP was saying why didn't we go after Hall? Why didn't we go after Scrimshaw?
Suggest you read the posts again.
Yep, get it, I worded my response poorly.
I was actually agreeing with you though it doesn't read that way :oops:


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28 and played six games in a bottom team was he injured most the year or poor form?


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