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AFL trade 2018 Is A Failure

Post: # 1761124Post damienc »

Sometimes you have to call it as it is. If all we are gaining is Dan Hannebery and Dean Kent then we have failed.

Miserably. Kent is just an ok get. He has pace and kicks well. But he struggled to be in Melbourne’s best 18. He can’t just be the Melbourne player in a St Kilda jumper. He needs big improvement to be of value.

Hannebery was a mid field bull but he is way past his best. He will play some ok games for us. I see his value as bringing other players into the contest.

So trades that very much do not set the world on fire. And that is an understatement.

We did a lot of talking and very little delivering. Says it all about our season.

Just wish the club would take a bit of ownership of where we are at.. If it did we might see some change for the better.


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damienc wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 8:00am Sometimes you have to call it as it is. If all we are gaining is Dan Hannebery and Dean Kent then we have failed.

Miserably. Kent is just an ok get. He has pace and kicks well. But he struggled to be in Melbourne’s best 18. He can’t just be the Melbourne player in a St Kilda jumper. He needs big improvement to be of value.

Hannebery was a mid field bull but he is way past his best. He will play some ok games for us. I see his value as bringing other players into the contest.

So trades that very much do not set the world on fire. And that is an understatement.

We did a lot of talking and very little delivering. Says it all about our season.

Just wish the club would take a bit of ownership of where we are at.. If it did we might see some change for the better.
Both improve our list so that is a win. Hannebery's full impact won't just come from on field performance.


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Post: # 1761127Post Mr Magic »

Is the trading period over?


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Post: # 1761130Post Beno88 »

What else happens in the trade period? And who wins the Caulfield Guineas? What's the weather like next Thursday? Lotto numbers might be handy too.


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Post: # 1761136Post bigred »

Yeah pretty ordinary.

Missing Shiel is a bit of a downer. Depending which way you look at it really.

Still have pick 4.

We still need picks in the second and third rounds.

Much more needs to happen or we are screwed.


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Mr Magic wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 8:10am Is the trading period over?
Has a full 7 days left until Wednesday week.

But we need to see some big time action by Friday IMO


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Trade period hasn't been a failure yet, plenty of action to happen yet!!!!!


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I blame Finnis


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Premature call with lots of time to go.
Kent will come cheaply and is better than all the players we delisted.
Hanners deal comes down to cost and length. Yes passed his prime etc but sadly will be one of better players if fit. He may also be a trigger that lifts our players by showing real leadership out there and make our boys train a lot harder.
Shiel going elsewhere is a great outcome.He would be wasted in our team and cost too much. Bombers makes more sense than us but how bad are we? 2 million bucks bad. It's now been quantified


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Cairnsman wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:38am I blame Finnis
But isn’t he your hero?

The one who has Richo contracted until 2020??


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Post: # 1761153Post spert »

Hannas has been recruited to add some on-field leadership over everything else, but are we going to actually get any A graders or even A- graders? Not looking like much has happened, or will happen.


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DJ Higgins wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:43am Premature call with lots of time to go.
Kent will come cheaply and is better than all the players we delisted.
Hanners deal comes down to cost and length. Yes passed his prime etc but sadly will be one of better players if fit. He may also be a trigger that lifts our players by showing real leadership out there and make our boys train a lot harder.
Shiel going elsewhere is a great outcome.He would be wasted in our team and cost too much. Bombers makes more sense than us but how bad are we? 2 million bucks bad. It's now been quantified
You don't seriously believe he signed for 2million less do you?


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Its all Richo's fault.


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The part I don’t get ...
- we need another quality key defender. No attempts to get Langdon or Adams ? Langdon was amazing during finals and would be a good get; we have cash right ? How does Sydney lead this discussion ?

- we lack speed. Kent is Mav like, where is our crack at line breaker. No talk of Hall and little on Gaff pre Eagles signature. Why were North the front runnner.

- we have cash and lack class. Make it happen.

I hope there are surprises in the pipe to help deal with shortfalls... and we aren’t backing on same old same.


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Post: # 1761162Post Stephen Theodore »

Cairnsman wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:38am I blame Finnis
It started with Huggins


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Stephen Theodore wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:51am
Cairnsman wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:38am I blame Finnis
It started with Huggins
Yep he should be sacked too.


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CURLY wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:04am
DJ Higgins wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:43am Premature call with lots of time to go.
Kent will come cheaply and is better than all the players we delisted.
Hanners deal comes down to cost and length. Yes passed his prime etc but sadly will be one of better players if fit. He may also be a trigger that lifts our players by showing real leadership out there and make our boys train a lot harder.
Shiel going elsewhere is a great outcome.He would be wasted in our team and cost too much. Bombers makes more sense than us but how bad are we? 2 million bucks bad. It's now been quantified
You don't seriously believe he signed for 2million less do you?
That is what is being reported in various sources and it is probable. Of course I don't actually know but if we did offer $1.2-$1.3 for 6 years i.e. 8 mill and Bombers offer $1m a season then yeah its possible.


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Post: # 1761169Post degruch »

Don't want to depress you even further, but I have to point out that we've not obtained Kent or Hannabery yet. As of right now, it looks like the only trade action is Hickey's imminent move to the Eagles.


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DJ Higgins wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 11:05am
CURLY wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:04am
DJ Higgins wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:43am Premature call with lots of time to go.
Kent will come cheaply and is better than all the players we delisted.
Hanners deal comes down to cost and length. Yes passed his prime etc but sadly will be one of better players if fit. He may also be a trigger that lifts our players by showing real leadership out there and make our boys train a lot harder.
Shiel going elsewhere is a great outcome.He would be wasted in our team and cost too much. Bombers makes more sense than us but how bad are we? 2 million bucks bad. It's now been quantified
You don't seriously believe he signed for 2million less do you?
That is what is being reported in various sources and it is probable. Of course I don't actually know but if we did offer $1.2-$1.3 for 6 years i.e. 8 mill and Bombers offer $1m a season then yeah its possible.
No chance.


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Post: # 1761193Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Actually, it all stems back to Drake and Huggins. Its their fault. Plus Bill Barrot from the 60's.


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They got Shiel for under 1M.


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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 11:57am Actually, it all stems back to Drake and Huggins. Its their fault. Plus Bill Barrot from the 60's.
Don't blame him, he hasn't posted here for a long time!!!!! ;)


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bigred wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 12:13pm They got Shiel for under 1M.
Yes of course they did. :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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bigred wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 12:13pm They got Shiel for under 1M.
Yes of course they did. :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Post: # 1761220Post stonecold »

It's a win as of now!!!!!


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