Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Sat 06 Oct 2018 10:09pm If Shiel not coming...who next?
Wingard? We have 1.3 mil and plus $ still.
You'd have to be an imbecile to offer Wingard stupid money.


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jaxons wrote: Sat 06 Oct 2018 9:06pm We have been told he is not coming to us.
So you were right Jaxons the club under the current management is an absolute cluster f***!


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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So?


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Wingard just overrated done nothing for 3 years and lazy apparently no
Forget Shiel just hit draft and try not to balls it up
Going berserk for King apparently ......you hear how amazing he and his bro have been but again that’s easier in junior ranks....think we need mids
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Totally irresponsible by St Kilda to offer $hiel 8 million over 6 yrs. Just stupid. Wingard not worth 1 million per year. Use pick 4 on a future gun.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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takeaway wrote: Fri 05 Oct 2018 6:23pm
Sainternist wrote: Fri 05 Oct 2018 6:08pm Hmmm We may require a third party to dilute our #4 pick if we are to acquire Shiel. I don't think GWS will budge on anything lower than a first round pick.
Next year's first plus say Hickey.

I agree with the approach by the club - if he happens to nominate us (still unlikely imo), our position is strengthened, he is out of contract next year, restricted free agent, compo next year will not match his value this year.
We are far better using pick 4 on one of the 6 top players in the draft, and hang tough with GWS. If they want pick 4 and won't budge, I would rather let Shiel go, and have a go at FA in 2019-20.
I'm inclined to agree. I don't think he's worth the money we're offering him. He seems a bit too banged up to be the highest paid player in the league. Would be a shame to let go of that pick 4 with the likes of an Izak Rankine or a Max King on the end of it.


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magnifisaint wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 12:24am Totally irresponsible by St Kilda to offer $hiel 8 million over 6 yrs. Just stupid. Wingard not worth 1 million per year. Use pick 4 on a future gun.


So stupid but still wasn't enough to convince a player to join.

We've been going to the draft for half a decade. How many have turned out to be guns or even the same ball park at Shiel?

No stupid money and def the right move. Doesn't matter though, we'll have no choice.


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jaxons wrote: Sat 06 Oct 2018 9:06pm We have been told he is not coming to us.


Thanks for the update. Missed it until tonight!


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Spinner wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 11:21pm
magnifisaint wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 12:24am Totally irresponsible by St Kilda to offer $hiel 8 million over 6 yrs. Just stupid. Wingard not worth 1 million per year. Use pick 4 on a future gun.


So stupid but still wasn't enough to convince a player to join.

We've been going to the draft for half a decade. How many have turned out to be guns or even the same ball park at Shiel?

No stupid money and def the right move. Doesn't matter though, we'll have no choice.
Going to the draft and effing up a no 1 pick comes squarely back to being unprofessional in our list management - coupled with some compromised drafts
This years top 5 look good
We have to get it right


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Teflon wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 11:54pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 11:21pm
magnifisaint wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 12:24am Totally irresponsible by St Kilda to offer $hiel 8 million over 6 yrs. Just stupid. Wingard not worth 1 million per year. Use pick 4 on a future gun.


So stupid but still wasn't enough to convince a player to join.

We've been going to the draft for half a decade. How many have turned out to be guns or even the same ball park at Shiel?

No stupid money and def the right move. Doesn't matter though, we'll have no choice.
Going to the draft and effing up a no 1 pick comes squarely back to being unprofessional in our list management - coupled with some compromised drafts
This years top 5 look good
We have to get it right
What makes us more placed this time around?

Drafting is a gamble - and the value of picks overrated.

For every Judd - there are 10 average players and a couple of guys who barely play 20 games.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Great. No Gaff. No Sheil and probably no Wingard.

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Who’s excited for Shiel? 🤓


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Positive or negative Train9?


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Train9 wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:31am Who’s excited for Shiel? 🤓
haha

yeah i heard we are back in it again


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wolfpup wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:38am
Train9 wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:31am Who’s excited for Shiel? 🤓
haha

yeah i heard we are back in it again
ITK at Bigfooty saying we're back in.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 11:06am
wolfpup wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:38am
Train9 wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:31am Who’s excited for Shiel? 🤓
haha

yeah i heard we are back in it again
ITK at Bigfooty saying we're back in.
yeah apparently we were never out in the first place. funny trade period this year.


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Will nominate Carlton, and can you blame him? I would too to be honest.


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iwantmeseats wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 11:28am Will nominate Carlton, and can you blame him? I would too to be honest.
Are you actually a St Kilda supporter?


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iwantmeseats wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 11:28am Will nominate Carlton, and can you blame him? I would too to be honest.
He'd certainly have an easier time being fed by Cripps...urgh...Carlton...but then, why would you want to play in the second div of the club you just left???

Talk about Scully being on the table, also there's still Kelly...I guess it will all depend on how much cap space is free if Sheil and Setterfield decide to go.


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SaintPav wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 11:34am
iwantmeseats wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 11:28am Will nominate Carlton, and can you blame him? I would too to be honest.
Are you actually a St Kilda supporter?
Yep.


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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:33am Positive or negative Train9?
Really positive mate. If I’m getting fed the truth, really positive.
Don’t see why I’m not getting the truth as we haven’t been told yes or no yet like some people are saying.


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Thanks Train9.


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Monster deal for Dylan Shiel, doo da, doo da
Monster deal for Dylan Shiel, oh de doo da day


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Spinner wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:03am
Teflon wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 11:54pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 11:21pm
magnifisaint wrote: Sun 07 Oct 2018 12:24am Totally irresponsible by St Kilda to offer $hiel 8 million over 6 yrs. Just stupid. Wingard not worth 1 million per year. Use pick 4 on a future gun.


So stupid but still wasn't enough to convince a player to join.

We've been going to the draft for half a decade. How many have turned out to be guns or even the same ball park at Shiel?

No stupid money and def the right move. Doesn't matter though, we'll have no choice.
Going to the draft and effing up a no 1 pick comes squarely back to being unprofessional in our list management - coupled with some compromised drafts
This years top 5 look good
We have to get it right
What makes us more placed this time around?

Drafting is a gamble - and the value of picks overrated.

For every Judd - there are 10 average players and a couple of guys who barely play 20 games.
We ain’t exactly hitting FA out of the park are we?
I also think no Trout is a positive plus this draft from EVERY decent footy person has some high end strong talent - no, not a guarantee but less of a c**k up chance than others..

I do know without a Judd type or 3 u can forget flags


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iwantmeseats wrote: Mon 08 Oct 2018 11:28am Will nominate Carlton, and can you blame him? I would too to be honest.
It's not too late for you.


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