Toughen up Sainters...

[Scollop]

You might have a few employees in an organisation that are high achievers, self motivated, driven and ambitious but if the managing director employs the wrong people to sustain and support the company's existence against its competitors then the chief financial officer will come out one day and suggest that the organisation should be liquidated and the assets sold up.
Those high achievers will go on and continue to find a way to be succesful at some other organisation

[DJ Higgins]

At least no players have expressed a desire to leave the Saints yet, unlike other clubs e.g. the suns

Lonie would have gone if he got a decent offer, Hickey has done the medical in Perth and Dunstan may go to Calton. Good news is we could lose all 3 and it would have little impact

[ss1986]

Some have the heart for it, some don't.
Good post.

Straight from the snowflake playbook.... passive aggressive, self serving horsesh*t comment, implying that someone is deficient in either brain cells or heart if they disagree.

Whoever you are, you are part of the problem at St.Kilda.

[saintadamski]

Some have the heart for it, some don't.
Good post.

Straight from the snowflake playbook.... passive aggressive, self serving horsesh*t comment, implying that someone is deficient in either brain cells or heart if they disagree.

Whoever you are, you are part of the problem at St.Kilda.

Utterly agree

Imagine not being allowed to criticise the horse sh*t that the management of the club has served up over the last 8 years, with poor recruiting, the contract extension of an underperforming inept coach, appointments and continuation of guys like Sexton who have developed nothing but their bank accounts....

and if we do criticise any of this, we are seen as 'not tough' and 'not true Saints people'

OP is utter garbage and close to the type of propaganda you get in totalitarian regimes... but I think more importantly, it is symptomatic of the acceptance of people at top level who are failing in their roles.

We need change.
We aren't stupid Lemmings.
We need to make our voices heard.

[SaintPav]

Some have the heart for it, some don't.
Good post.

Straight from the snowflake playbook.... passive aggressive, self serving horsesh*t comment, implying that someone is deficient in either brain cells or heart if they disagree.

Whoever you are, you are part of the problem at St.Kilda.

Gold!!!

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Nope. You read everything incorrectly.

The first poster was right. Some supporters are just as soft as butter when times are tough. Roll up your sleeves for a change. That was his point I believe.

I'm all for good criticism and analysis (its how you improve), but little of that happens on here. Like the original poster, he's probably just over all the sooking, whinging and personal attack garbage coming from some.

Time to show a bit of heart in good and bad times, but I understand some people are made of different stuff when it comes to adversity.

[ss1986]

Nope. You read everything incorrectly.

The first poster was right. Some supporters are just as soft as butter when times are tough. Roll up your sleeves for a change. That was his point I believe.

I'm all for good criticism and analysis (its how you improve), but little of that happens on here. Like the original poster, he's probably just over all the sooking, whinging and personal attack garbage coming from some.

Time to show a bit of heart in good and bad times, but I understand some people are made of different stuff when it comes to adversity.

Couldn't help yourself.... there it is again.

Probably want to give them all a participation award for the year ay.

You vote Greens for sure.

[Sainternist]

Yep, I roll with the punches as a Sainter. I never give up on them. But by golly, they frustrate the hell out of me. I think it's okay to vent your spleen a little every once in a while. On the other hand, I agree that some of the negativity on here can be a little soul-destroying. I think we definitely all need to hang in there and not lose our bottle.

[Sanctorum]

Nope. You read everything incorrectly.

The first poster was right. Some supporters are just as soft as butter when times are tough. Roll up your sleeves for a change. That was his point I believe.

I'm all for good criticism and analysis (its how you improve), but little of that happens on here. Like the original poster, he's probably just over all the sooking, whinging and personal attack garbage coming from some.

Time to show a bit of heart in good and bad times, but I understand some people are made of different stuff when it comes to adversity.

So true, tedtheodorelogan2018, my point is that it means very little to vent anger at the team or individuals - everyone is certainly entitled to express opinions, but it is best to do so with sound arguments, not invective, which achieves nothing. If someone feels strongly about a specific issue, or individual, express your views on talk-back radio (as I did this afternoon on NAB AFL Trade Radio about the DoC) because that will actually reach a broad audience, and maybe, just maybe, will reach the club.

[SydneySainter]

Nope. You read everything incorrectly.

The first poster was right. Some supporters are just as soft as butter when times are tough. Roll up your sleeves for a change. That was his point I believe.

I'm all for good criticism and analysis (its how you improve), but little of that happens on here. Like the original poster, he's probably just over all the sooking, whinging and personal attack garbage coming from some.

Time to show a bit of heart in good and bad times, but I understand some people are made of different stuff when it comes to adversity.

Couldn't help yourself.... there it is again.

Probably want to give them all a participation award for the year ay.

You vote Greens for sure.

It's the whole hypocrisy of that "you're either with us or against us" attitude.

To be critical of the administration, to call it as they see it or say that you're not on board with the marketing spin and propaganda, makes us against the club and not a true, loyal Sainter.

This is the same poster who was previously complaining that there was too much lefty, hippy, political correctness out there, but is so quick to condemn perfectly warranted criticism and declare those that voice it as disloyal and unworthy of following the club.

[SydneySainter]

Nope. You read everything incorrectly.

The first poster was right. Some supporters are just as soft as butter when times are tough. Roll up your sleeves for a change. That was his point I believe.

I'm all for good criticism and analysis (its how you improve), but little of that happens on here. Like the original poster, he's probably just over all the sooking, whinging and personal attack garbage coming from some.

Time to show a bit of heart in good and bad times, but I understand some people are made of different stuff when it comes to adversity.

So true, tedtheodorelogan2018, my point is that it means very little to vent anger at the team or individuals - everyone is certainly entitled to express opinions, but it is best to do so with sound arguments, not invective, which achieves nothing. If someone feels strongly about a specific issue, or individual, express your views on talk-back radio (as I did this afternoon on NAB AFL Trade Radio about the DoC) because that will actually reach a broad audience, and maybe, just maybe, will reach the club.

Sound arguments? Right!

There are those who, no matter how well a critical point of view is articulated or constructed, the same club apologists just don't want to hear it and will just continue to condemn it as needless negativity and lean back on the "you're either with us or against us" argument.

A very Bush administration argument.

[SaintPav]

Same Shtick and straw man arguments as Parkeysainter but he’s not Parkeysainter...

Spare me.

[asiu]

as Bluthy

but he's not the Bluffmeister either

You're spared.

[SaintPav]

as Bluthy

but he's not the Bluffmeister either

You're spared.

No offence, but I do not understand your posts.

[David-Lee]

What angers me isn't losing, but I do fancy a a foot stomping, hand clapping, sing along after the game....its the pathetic insipid coaching and recruiting since Lyon that's put us dead last for one percenters.....toughen up? You f@cking toughen up and ring the club and tell them we are tired of heartless, passionless cowards who won't rip heads off in desperation for this club.

I've given till my finances bleed and I am pissed about the last 6 years and I'm not going to take it up the wazoo with a smile like the ol' timers.

[Joffa Burns]

as Bluthy

but he's not the Bluffmeister either

You're spared.

No offence, but I do not understand your posts.

I take it that asiu feels a progression of poster usernames for the same individual as follows

Bluthy
parkeysainter
tedwhateverhisnameis

[asiu]

yes

an accurate assessment jb

[iwantmeseats]

There is no question that St Kilda has had a horrible year and it is not surprising that this has led to many Saints members and supporters becoming despondent about the team's chances in 2019. Thus we see posts on this forum like "We are a laughing stock", and under almost every heading on this forum, contributors bemoan the performances of the coach, senior management and the board. Doom and gloom everywhere you look.

My advice to everyone who gripes and whinges about St Kilda - toughen up! Putting the proverbial boot into team and club individuals serves no useful purpose - the targets of this sort of vitriol and hate most certainly don't read the rubbish on this forum. If you really feel that bad about the Saints, jump ship and chase your dreams with another team.

Being a Saints supporter means developing a tough hide, and to be prepared to roll with the punches, to stay loyal to the club through good times and bad, unconditionally, to celebrate the successes and to accept defeats gracefully, and most of all "to NEVER EVER give up"!!

I encourage every true Saint to take a look at the video of Nick Riewoldt talking about his experiences as a Saints supporter, and to take heart from his message and put the negative thoughts away. Next year will be so much better, and as a supporter/member for 60 years I speak with considerable experience!

Sorry. Being silent and accepting every dumb arsed decision this footy club makes like some Stepford wife doesn't a loyal Saints supporter make. I am a loyal Saints supporter. Have been for more than 50 years and I am still going to call it as I see it. But feel free to take the high moral ground.And nothing personal in my remarks.

Well said. I’m way beyond blindly accepting the garbage the club spews out. I’ll call it,and don’t give a rats what any supporter thinks!!

[Joffa Burns]

yes

an accurate assessment jb

But their is no evidence to suggest you are correct

Not like there is any linguistic similarities or posting patterns that would intimate you are correct.

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Poor form. Personal character attacks is subpar in any matter when not warranted.

[asiu]

its the vibe thing