3 players in debut seasons for WCE premiership side

[saintspremiers]

Kids take time blah blah blah....

Maybe you sometimes need some mature age recruits.

WCE had DUI (Liam Ryan), Rioli and Venables.

So we had the Coff and Clark.

Clark went ok but Coff went backwards on his first year. And the big Claravino, a later pick, didn’t even get a game in our shyte side!

[BenLong#21]

Then there is Allen and Brander coming up....

[SaintPav]

Richo is old school.

Dinosaur

[cwrcyn]

Venables had 3 touches, Ryan shirked some critical contests and Rioli was a bit part player. If Gaff and Shepherd were available, two of those three would not have played, most likely.

Nothing wrong with Clark's season, and Coffield will be a star. How can you go backwards in your first season? As for Clavarino, give the kid a chance, FFS. Needs to put on some weight and get a bit fitter before we start to throw him down the poo-shute

[cwrcyn]

Also, Phillips averaged about 20 touches in his first season of senior football......not bad, eh? Dunstan and sinclair are still struggling to average 20 a game.

[skeptic]

I must have watched a different game compared to most RE Ryan...
Yeah dropped a marked n missed 2 goals but thought almost everything else he did was gold. Hugely influential around the contest, great pressure acts, a few big moments.

At St.Kilda players that get around 14 touches or less are expected to guard space and pressure only

[BenLong#21]

Also, Phillips averaged about 20 touches in his first season of senior football......not bad, eh? Dunstan and sinclair are still struggling to average 20 a game.

He only played 7 games.
Shame the Cho kept dropping him back to VFL.
Good work Cho! A bit of 'tough love'. What a developer of talent! Go Cho!
Best drop Ed and keep Newnesy and Weller in the AFL side!

[BenLong#21]

Venables had 3 touches, Ryan shirked some critical contests and Rioli was a bit part player. If Gaff and Shepherd were available, two of those three would not have played, most likely.

Nothing wrong with Clark's season, and Coffield will be a star. How can you go backwards in your first season? As for Clavarino, give the kid a chance, FFS. Needs to put on some weight and get a bit fitter before we start to throw him down the poo-shute

Get a grip. Rioli had 7 tackles. Ryan 4.
Seriously FFS. It was a grand final with super pressure. Every disposal was tough to get. No easy kicks. They did their jobs well for rookies.

[takeaway]

Also, Phillips averaged about 20 touches in his first season of senior football......not bad, eh? Dunstan and sinclair are still struggling to average 20 a game.

He only played 7 games.
Shame the Cho kept dropping him back to VFL.
Good work Cho! A bit of 'tough love'. What a developer of talent! Go Cho!
Best drop Ed and keep Newnesy and Weller in the AFL side!

What does "the Cho" mean?

[kosifantutti]

Kids take time blah blah blah....

Maybe you sometimes need some mature age recruits.

WCE had DUI (Liam Ryan), Rioli and Venables.

So we had the Coff and Clark.

Clark went ok but Coff went backwards on his first year. And the big Claravino, a later pick, didn’t even get a game in our shyte side!

I don’t understand the comparison. Venables and Rioli are second year players and Ryan is 21. But Clark and Coffield weren’t immediate stars and an 18 year old CHB didn’t play therefore we’re doomed?

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Its actually easier for a first year player to perform better in a top 8 side, especially a top 4 and GF side. He already has the better players, mature and harder bodies around him that can play 120 mins of football.

Clark, Coffield and Claravino will end up having better careers in the end compared to those 3 West Coast players. They are 19 year old kids at the moment.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Kids take time blah blah blah....

Maybe you sometimes need some mature age recruits.

WCE had DUI (Liam Ryan), Rioli and Venables.

So we had the Coff and Clark.

Clark went ok but Coff went backwards on his first year. And the big Claravino, a later pick, didn’t even get a game in our shyte side!

I don’t understand the comparison. Venables and Rioli are second year players and Ryan is 21. But Clark and Coffield weren’t immediate stars and an 18 year old CHB didn’t play therefore we’re doomed?

All true.

[Harvey To Hayes]

Kids take time blah blah blah....

Maybe you sometimes need some mature age recruits.

WCE had DUI (Liam Ryan), Rioli and Venables.

So we had the Coff and Clark.

Clark went ok but Coff went backwards on his first year. And the big Claravino, a later pick, didn’t even get a game in our shyte side!

I don’t understand the comparison. Venables and Rioli are second year players and Ryan is 21. But Clark and Coffield weren’t immediate stars and an 18 year old CHB didn’t play therefore we’re doomed?

No space for logic here my friend...

[BenLong#21]

Its actually easier for a first year player to perform better in a top 8 side, especially a top 4 and GF side. He already has the better players, mature and harder bodies around him that can play 120 mins of football.

Clark, Coffield and Claravino will end up having better careers in the end compared to those 3 West Coast players. They are 19 year old kids at the moment.

So Clavarino - 19yo, pick #35 and 0 games.

will have a better career than

Venables, 19yo, pick #13, 15 games and 1 flag.

On what basis exactly have you formed this belief?

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Overall, in my opinion based on what I have seen, all 3 players will have better careers than those 3 West Coast players.

Veneables is a different player to Claravino anyway who is a big boy that can play FB or CHB. Veneables played games last year. He had 1 kick yesterday.

[Sainter_Dad]

Also, Phillips averaged about 20 touches in his first season of senior football......not bad, eh? Dunstan and sinclair are still struggling to average 20 a game.

He only played 7 games.
Shame the Cho kept dropping him back to VFL.
Good work Cho! A bit of 'tough love'. What a developer of talent! Go Cho!
Best drop Ed and keep Newnesy and Weller in the AFL side!

What does "the Cho" mean?

I assume The Cho is [Ri]Cho

[cwrcyn]

Winning a flag and getting one kick is not a reflection on how much better you are then Clark and Coffield....this is bizarre logic

[Sainter_Dad]

Winning a flag and getting one kick is not a reflection on how much better you are then Clark and Coffield....this is bizarre logic

Cam Mooney had a fair career after his input into North's Flag

[takeaway]

Also, Phillips averaged about 20 touches in his first season of senior football......not bad, eh? Dunstan and sinclair are still struggling to average 20 a game.

He only played 7 games.
Shame the Cho kept dropping him back to VFL.
Good work Cho! A bit of 'tough love'. What a developer of talent! Go Cho!
Best drop Ed and keep Newnesy and Weller in the AFL side!

What does "the Cho" mean?

I assume The Cho is [Ri]Cho

Fair enough. It can have other meanings one of which cannot be explained on here. I don't think posters would stoop so low to mean that.

[BenLong#21]

Also, Phillips averaged about 20 touches in his first season of senior football......not bad, eh? Dunstan and sinclair are still struggling to average 20 a game.

He only played 7 games.
Shame the Cho kept dropping him back to VFL.
Good work Cho! A bit of 'tough love'. What a developer of talent! Go Cho!
Best drop Ed and keep Newnesy and Weller in the AFL side!

What does "the Cho" mean?

I assume The Cho is [Ri]Cho

Fair enough. It can have other meanings one of which cannot be explained on here. I don't think posters would stoop so low to mean that.

?
What on earth are you referring to?

The Cho is clearly Richo.

A bloke who is so mediocre the best we can possibly hope for is a miraculous 9th.

Everything would have to go right with injuries and the draw for that to happen again like it did in 2016.

Mind you in 2016 - Roo averaged 21 disposals, kicked 41 goals and got 19 Brownlow votes.... Absolutely carried us..

[CURLY]

Sheed misses that goal and the games of those 4 would be heavily criticised.

[BenLong#21]

Sheed misses that goal and the games of those 4 would be heavily criticised.

If if if if.

If you had a brain you might have a job.

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Always if if if if with you curly.

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[CURLY]

Sheed misses that goal and the games of those 4 would be heavily criticised.

If if if if.

If you had a brain you might have a job.

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Always if if if if with you curly.

Listen clown your the smartarse that lives in a world of hindsight.

[supersaints2]

Don't really see the point of the OP
I'd guess just about every team would have had 3 Debutants in every year. ??

[supersaints2]

Don't really see the point of the OP
I'd guess just about every team would have had 3 Debutants in every year. ??