Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

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Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith

Poll ended at Tue 16 Oct 2018 4:40pm

Rankine
23
52%
Rozee
1
2%
Smith
16
36%
King
4
9%
 
Total votes: 44

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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757196Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Will be Smith or Rankine.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757197Post Myron Gaines »

I’ll be surprised if it isn’t Max King. Best player in the draft that will slide to our pick due to doing his ACL.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757208Post guitars4 »

Unfortunately living in Perth I don't get to see much of the players only the high lights reel & what I read so really can't make an informed opinion . What do you people in the know think of the King boys obviously from Victoria so no worry of home sickness & is one better than the other or should we go for a crow eater & Is there any chance Walsh will slide to number 4 ? I would really appreciate your feedback :D


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757209Post dragit »

Myron Gaines wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 7:21pm I’ll be surprised if it isn’t Max King. Best player in the draft that will slide to our pick due to doing his ACL.
He'll need to do better than that... does he have asthma and dicky heart?


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757221Post derby Street »

dragit wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 8:42pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 7:21pm I’ll be surprised if it isn’t Max King. Best player in the draft that will slide to our pick due to doing his ACL.
He'll need to do better than that... does he have asthma and dicky heart?
What a dicky heart like Stephenson :shock:


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757229Post Zed »

so who is in charge of the recruitment team ?
who is the chief talent spotter ?
and who makes the final call on whether Rankine, Smith or King are higher on our priority list ?


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757273Post mad saint guy »

If Rankine was from Melbourne he'd be my number one choice but we just can't afford to lose a kid wanting to go home after his two years are up. We'd probably get another first round pick back and lose two years of development when we need to be bringing in guys who can be playing very good footy in the next 2-3 years.

My preferences

1 - Walsh
2 - Smith
3 - Rankine
4 - Lukosius

If we recruit King I will be furious. Unless we've somehow managed to bring in Hannebery and Gaff/Shiel/Wingard and in the process traded out McCartin


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757276Post saintspremiers »

I don’t know how so many people can make calls on who to draft.

The TAC comp isn’t on telly so unless people have watched a lot of kids footy it’s juts what you read.

Who is the draft guru in the media now Emma Quayle has gone to clubland?


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757328Post kosifantutti »

Zed wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 10:16pm so who is in charge of the recruitment team ?
who is the chief talent spotter ?
and who makes the final call on whether Rankine, Smith or King are higher on our priority list ?
They're waiting for the result of the poll.


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Post: # 1757330Post CarlD »

We’re all experts on here so I’m sure the Saintsational poll will come up with correct result :lol:


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Post: # 1757361Post saint-stu »

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/09/18/ ... r's-draft/
Hawthorn great Terry Wallace has urged St Kilda to target South Australian young gun Izak Rankine at this year’s National Draft.

Rankine, 18, is rated as one of the most exciting talents in the 2018 draft, and looks almost certain to be taken inside the top five.

Te Saints, who currently hold pick four, are looking for additional midfield class and Wallace believes the classy midfielder/forward is the type of player that fits the bill.


“It’s depending on what they’re looking for,” Wallace told SEN Afternoons.

“I think its class through the midfield is the way that they need to go.

“I would think that Izak Rankine is the guy that would stand out to me as the one they should be looking at.

“There’s been a lot of talk about Izak Rankine and not wanting to leave South Australia and if you get him he will be back in two years, so you would have to do your due diligence on all that before making a decision.

“A Dan Hannebery working alongside an Izak Rankine teaching him the right work ethic and the way that needs to go about his football, isn’t a bad start.

“Izak Rankine would be my answer.”

Rankine was selected in the Under 18 All-Australian team after a string of impressive performances for South Australia in the National Championships.


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Post: # 1757362Post Myron Gaines »

saint-stu wrote: Tue 18 Sep 2018 6:32pm https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/09/18/ ... r's-draft/
Hawthorn great Terry Wallace has urged St Kilda to target South Australian young gun Izak Rankine at this year’s National Draft.

Rankine, 18, is rated as one of the most exciting talents in the 2018 draft, and looks almost certain to be taken inside the top five.

Te Saints, who currently hold pick four, are looking for additional midfield class and Wallace believes the classy midfielder/forward is the type of player that fits the bill.


“It’s depending on what they’re looking for,” Wallace told SEN Afternoons.

“I think its class through the midfield is the way that they need to go.

“I would think that Izak Rankine is the guy that would stand out to me as the one they should be looking at.

“There’s been a lot of talk about Izak Rankine and not wanting to leave South Australia and if you get him he will be back in two years, so you would have to do your due diligence on all that before making a decision.

“A Dan Hannebery working alongside an Izak Rankine teaching him the right work ethic and the way that needs to go about his football, isn’t a bad start.

“Izak Rankine would be my answer.”

Rankine was selected in the Under 18 All-Australian team after a string of impressive performances for South Australia in the National Championships.
Wallet wanting us to target this years Tambling. Typical. Meanwhile Max King becomes the next Buddy Franklin.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757366Post skeptic »

If Rankine is a clear gun that wants to go home in 2 years... you don’t lose. You’ll get overs back into return.

Plus 2 years is a long time... Judd apparently told WCE he’d leave in 2 years but hung around for a bit


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Myron Gaines wrote: Tue 18 Sep 2018 6:38pm
saint-stu wrote: Tue 18 Sep 2018 6:32pm https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/09/18/ ... r's-draft/
Hawthorn great Terry Wallace has urged St Kilda to target South Australian young gun Izak Rankine at this year’s National Draft.

Rankine, 18, is rated as one of the most exciting talents in the 2018 draft, and looks almost certain to be taken inside the top five.

Te Saints, who currently hold pick four, are looking for additional midfield class and Wallace believes the classy midfielder/forward is the type of player that fits the bill.


“It’s depending on what they’re looking for,” Wallace told SEN Afternoons.

“I think its class through the midfield is the way that they need to go.

“I would think that Izak Rankine is the guy that would stand out to me as the one they should be looking at.

“There’s been a lot of talk about Izak Rankine and not wanting to leave South Australia and if you get him he will be back in two years, so you would have to do your due diligence on all that before making a decision.

“A Dan Hannebery working alongside an Izak Rankine teaching him the right work ethic and the way that needs to go about his football, isn’t a bad start.

“Izak Rankine would be my answer.”

Rankine was selected in the Under 18 All-Australian team after a string of impressive performances for South Australia in the National Championships.
Wallet wanting us to target this years Tambling. Typical. Meanwhile Max King becomes the next Buddy Franklin.
Or Rankine is the next Andew McLeod and Max King the next Tyrone Vickery.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757368Post cwrcyn »

Send Dunstan and one other player to Carlton for an upgrade from pick 4 to pick 1. Then we get exactly what we want


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Post: # 1757374Post SinCitySainter »

cwrcyn wrote: Tue 18 Sep 2018 8:07pm Send Dunstan and one other player to Carlton for an upgrade from pick 4 to pick 1. Then we get exactly what we want
If we could get pick one would we be likely to go for Lukosius (sp?) or would Walsh be or likely target.

I don't know the talents of the kids in the draft but my concern with Rankine is he is quite small and we already have too many small bodied players.


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Post: # 1757381Post rodgerfox »

SinCitySainter wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 6:11pm

We cannot afford another bust and Rankine could be anything or nothing, in my opinion of course.
Why could he be nothing?

Are there issues surrounding him?


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Post: # 1757388Post guitars4 »

guitars4 wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 8:35pm Unfortunately living in Perth I don't get to see much of the players only the high lights reel & what I read so really can't make an informed opinion . What do you people in the know think of the King boys obviously from Victoria so no worry of home sickness & is one better than the other or should we go for a crow eater & Is there any chance Walsh will slide to number 4 ? I would really appreciate your feedback :D
Haven't had any feedback from anyone so is it a dumb request or is it just too difficult ?I was hoping for some love for the King boys but nothing from anyone :?


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guitars4 wrote: Tue 18 Sep 2018 10:47pmI was hoping for some love for the King boys but nothing from anyone :?
If it was open season on recruiting, everyone would be trying to sign both the King boys. I'd say anybody here who says they don't want them probably actually just prefers someone else or wants a player from a different position - probably a mid. The Kings are absurdly athletic for kids of that size and they're contested marking machines. I think the big issue is their kicking. In his only TAC game for the year, Ben kicked 8.6 (some clips from the game below) and put at least one out on the full. Ben kicked 5.5 over the weekend. So in that sense, they're projects for our resident goalkicking guru (...) if either or both wind up here. They're clearly exceptional talents though.

In terms of how the actual draft is going to pan out, it's worth keeping an eye out for Callum Twomey's articles on the official website. He doesn't insert his own opinions too much in proceedings and usually gets his info by brute force, hounding club recruiters to get whatever information he can. Right now he has Walsh as the number 1 prospect. That matches the whispers going around the internet. I should stress that I'm certainly not an ITK. In fact, I know very little of anything. Supposedly, Carlton are going to take Walsh, then Gold Coast will take Lukosius. Gold Coast will trade the third pick to Adelaide, who will take Rankine which will leave us a choice between the King boys or some midfielders that aren't at the level of Walsh or Rankine.

The only vaguely plausible scenario that has Walsh lasting to our pick is if Carlton decide to take Lukosius and then Gold Coast decide they're going to build their team around the twins. Gold Coast have taken a lot of mid types in recent years and they already have an extra first round pick from West Coast. If they lose May, they could have 5 picks in the top 25 before even considering trading pick 3. They're also likely to wind up with Bailey Scott at a relative bargain as an academy player. So I would say it's possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Rankine seems more likely than Walsh. King seems the most likely, however, since he's coming back from a season ending injury, can't kick straight and he plays a position that's already overcrowded. A perfect fit.



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Post: # 1757400Post skeptic »

guitars4 wrote: Tue 18 Sep 2018 10:47pm
guitars4 wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 8:35pm Unfortunately living in Perth I don't get to see much of the players only the high lights reel & what I read so really can't make an informed opinion . What do you people in the know think of the King boys obviously from Victoria so no worry of home sickness & is one better than the other or should we go for a crow eater & Is there any chance Walsh will slide to number 4 ? I would really appreciate your feedback :D
Haven't had any feedback from anyone so is it a dumb request or is it just too difficult ?I was hoping for some love for the King boys but nothing from anyone :?
I’ll look into it and get back to you


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Post: # 1757402Post prwilkinson »

Max King’s ball drop needs a lot of work.


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Post: # 1757407Post BenLong#21 »

What will Adelaide give up for pick 3?
Pick 8 plus a player I guess?
Tom Lynch or Paul Seedsman. Would have to be something like that.
That way the Suns can get Lukosius + Rozee + pick 17 + a Seedsman type. All in the first round.


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Post: # 1757408Post SuperDuper »

BenLong#21 wrote: Wed 19 Sep 2018 1:31am What will Adelaide give up for pick 3?
Pick 8 plus a player I guess?
Tom Lynch or Paul Seedsman. Would have to be something like that.
That way the Suns can get Lukosius + Rozee + pick 17 + a Seedsman type. All in the first round.
Rozee wont make it past the bulldogs at 7


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Post: # 1757409Post skeptic »

Here’s Knightmares right up for Max King (if you don’t know KM, he pbly the most knowledgeable forumite around drafting and I think covers the draft for ESPN)

5. Max King (VIC)
Best position: Key forward/ruckman
Height, weight: 202cm, 85kg
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 2-10
Plays like: Joe Daniher
Rationale: Out for the season with a torn ACL. As difficult to defend inside 50m as any junior key forward in recent years.
August Ranking: 5
Strengths:
Height
Long arms
Takes front position in marking contests
Body positioning in the contest
Draws free kicks inside 50m
Jumps towards the ball when taking marks
Contested marking
One-on-one marking
Marks at the highest point
Clean at ground level
Leap
Mobility
Leading patterns
Weaknesses:
Endurance
Work rate
Rarely pushes up outside the forward 50m arc
Conversion in front of goal


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Post: # 1757410Post skeptic »

On Walsh, I’d be pretty stunned if he makes it to 4


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