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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752142Post Goose is king »

Acres is absolutely ready to explode next year. It better be with us. He has a massive upside. Hannebery only has a downside


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752146Post rodgerfox »

Teflon wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 1:00pm
rodgerfox wrote: Thu 23 Aug 2018 10:32pm Acres is very, very close to ordinary.
Is he though?
Or is he simply being used in dumb positions (ruck) and just not being developed properly as a genuine big bodied mid while we keep playing Mavs of the world?
Low skill, not quick, not smart (as a footballer) and doesn't find the pill enough.

Not overly big either. Not great overhead.


Look, it's highly possible that like others on our list - our poor coaching and lack of leadership is stifling his development and holding him back.
However, I don't think I've ever really seen him.Do anything special, or play a genuinely good game.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752148Post Scollop »

Not overly big on your analysis of Blake either

You did cover your arse though which is a good out, just in case he keeps improving and makes a fool of you and others on here who have nfi


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752150Post skeptic »

If we trade Acres as part of the Hannebery deal... I’ll throw up


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752151Post rodgerfox »

Scollop wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:36pm Not overly big on your analysis of Blake either

You did cover your arse though which is a good out, just in case he keeps improving and makes a fool of you and others on here who have nfi
It's not arse covering. It's simply keeping a balanced view.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752154Post saintbob »

dragit wrote: Thu 23 Aug 2018 10:22pm I'll 100% quit following the game if we trade Acres out for el chapo.

I’ll be shattered, Hannebery is done and Acres is about to explode.

Of course Sydney want Acres, he’s the ideal replacement for Kennedy and Longmire would play him where he should be played unlike Richo.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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rodgerfox wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:04pm
Teflon wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 1:00pm
rodgerfox wrote: Thu 23 Aug 2018 10:32pm Acres is very, very close to ordinary.
Is he though?
Or is he simply being used in dumb positions (ruck) and just not being developed properly as a genuine big bodied mid while we keep playing Mavs of the world?
Low skill, not quick, not smart (as a footballer) and doesn't find the pill enough.

Not overly big either. Not great overhead.


Look, it's highly possible that like others on our list - our poor coaching and lack of leadership is stifling his development and holding him back.
However, I don't think I've ever really seen him.Do anything special, or play a genuinely good game.
He's big, and he gets the pill...but he's predicable in what he does and dislikes any hard work IMO. I've never seen otherwise, so happy for him to prove me wrong one day, but he'll certainly get used to hard work under Longmire!


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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Might help Acres' development if he was given a chance to spend some decent time in the midfield.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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rodgerfox wrote: Thu 23 Aug 2018 10:32pm Acres is very, very close to ordinary.
This post is ordinary. Acres was one of our best before he got injured this year. Massive upside.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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outside66 wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 4:28pm
rodgerfox wrote: Thu 23 Aug 2018 10:32pm Acres is very, very close to ordinary.
This post is ordinary. Acres was one of our best before he got injured this year. Massive upside.
I don't think it is at all relevant whether he was in our best. Our best was shocking, so it's not a high benchmark for a start.

But secondly, it's about getting players that could be good in a premiership team, not a bottom 4 team.


Acres is young, so he should/could improve. But to date, he's been incredibly average.


I'd be reluctant to trade him for Hannebury, but I wouldn't at all blink at trading him for a really good players in their peak.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752182Post Saintmatt »

rodgerfox wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 5:49pm
outside66 wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 4:28pm
rodgerfox wrote: Thu 23 Aug 2018 10:32pm Acres is very, very close to ordinary.
This post is ordinary. Acres was one of our best before he got injured this year. Massive upside.
I don't think it is at all relevant whether he was in our best. Our best was shocking, so it's not a high benchmark for a start.

But secondly, it's about getting players that could be good in a premiership team, not a bottom 4 team.


Acres is young, so he should/could improve. But to date, he's been incredibly average.


I'd be reluctant to trade him for Hannebury, but I wouldn't at all blink at trading him for a really good players in their peak.
I agree that Blake has been less than stellar. But - imagine if he'd have been gifted the 60+ games that Dunstan hasn't earned?

He's been incredibly poorly developed and used. He had bad groins pre-season yet we find ourselves watching him 2nd ruck in Perth against Freo ... whilst Marshall was on the frikkin ground! He's a big bodied mid whom is a loper and hence, looks slowish. But - he runs at different angles which makes him unpredictable. He's also a good mark forward and is a very good set shot at goal.

My only hope is that the new Assistant coaching group lets Alan play with some crayons in the corner whilst they develop a game plan around our list's actual capabilites (i.e. not a style they're unable to execute). Surely that game plan involves less Dunstan; more Acres.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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Saintmatt wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 5:58pm

My only hope is that the new Assistant coaching group lets Alan play with some crayons in the corner whilst they develop a game plan around our list's actual capabilites (i.e. not a style they're unable to execute). Surely that game plan involves less Dunstan; more Acres.
Could not agree more!!


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752237Post Teflon »

rodgerfox wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 4:03pm
Scollop wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:36pm Not overly big on your analysis of Blake either

You did cover your arse though which is a good out, just in case he keeps improving and makes a fool of you and others on here who have nfi
It's not arse covering. It's simply keeping a balanced view.
No Foxxy it’s arse covering
He’s a big bodied mid for sure (that’s why they use him ruck) so just wrong on that aspect
Anyhoo we’ll all be hindsight experts when he tears it up for swans


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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Teflon wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 9:11pm
rodgerfox wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 4:03pm
Scollop wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:36pm Not overly big on your analysis of Blake either

You did cover your arse though which is a good out, just in case he keeps improving and makes a fool of you and others on here who have nfi
It's not arse covering. It's simply keeping a balanced view.
No Foxxy it’s arse covering
He’s a big bodied mid for sure (that’s why they use him ruck) so just wrong on that aspect
Anyhoo we’ll all be hindsight experts when he tears it up for swans
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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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rodgerfox wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:04pm
Teflon wrote: Fri 24 Aug 2018 1:00pm
rodgerfox wrote: Thu 23 Aug 2018 10:32pm Acres is very, very close to ordinary.
Is he though?
Or is he simply being used in dumb positions (ruck) and just not being developed properly as a genuine big bodied mid while we keep playing Mavs of the world?
Low skill, not quick, not smart (as a footballer) and doesn't find the pill enough.

Not overly big either. Not great overhead.


Look, it's highly possible that like others on our list - our poor coaching and lack of leadership is stifling his development and holding him back.
However, I don't think I've ever really seen him.Do anything special, or play a genuinely good game.
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I have.

Admittedly against Williamstown.

Ever since then I have been a big supporter.

He plays a bit like a giraffe whilst physically developing. Unlike you I think he has real skill, smarts, finds the ball and takes a good grab. Against he does the odd hatchet disposal. A 22 year old up to 22 possessions per game (not midfield) despite injuries is a player IMO.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752371Post freely »

Back to Hannebery. I used to think he was terrific but I'm watching the Swans/Hawks game now and I can't see he offers us anything Armo doesn't to be honest.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752379Post Teflon »

Yep no Tks
He’s cooked


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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Teflon wrote: Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:06pm Yep no Tks
He’s cooked
Pretty easy call after he gets clipped and bangs his knee again. I would wait for any medical before making a definitive call on him.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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Acres will be the best player (currently on our list) at our club in a few years. Injury and consistently being played out of position this year has hampered him. Why he doesn’t spend a majority of his time in the middle instead of forward is baffling.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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The_Dud wrote: Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:53pm Acres will be the best player (currently on our list) at our club in a few years. Injury and consistently being played out of position this year has hampered him. Why he doesn’t spend a majority of his time in the middle instead of forward is baffling.
Agree Dud.

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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752396Post Enrico_Misso »

Agree with the posts that Hannebery only has downside.
He is a tough warrior as we saw again tonight, but at some stage that will catch up with him - probably long before the 5 year contract finishes, leaving us paying top rates for a boiled spud.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752398Post Teflon »

amusingname wrote: Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:16pm
Teflon wrote: Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:06pm Yep no Tks
He’s cooked
Pretty easy call after he gets clipped and bangs his knee again. I would wait for any medical before making a definitive call on him.
Injury or not just no
Was saying this long before injury


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

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freely wrote: Sat 25 Aug 2018 9:27pm Back to Hannebery. I used to think he was terrific but I'm watching the Swans/Hawks game now and I can't see he offers us anything Armo doesn't to be honest.
He's done. Stick a fork in him. A 4th round pick would be overs imho.


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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752404Post dragit »

6 kicks

Give that man 5 years @ 800

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Re: 5 years Dan Hannebery?

Post: # 1752405Post chico2001 »

Well those who are supporting Richardson as the coach going forward need to think again if he keeps playing Acres out of position apparently and of course not giving other players games. A trade may be on the cards for Hannebery but it would be a careless move. If the general plebs around the traps are aware of hannebery's shortcomings , surely that spud Lethlean is.


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