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Re: Sack the coach Tomorrow!

Post: # 1745189Post The_Dud »

fugazi wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 4:19pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 4:12pm 106 games
37 wins
0 finals

Sooner or later you get judged by w:l and the excuses dry up.
How the f#ck is he still there?
That really is the ONLY question.
To be fair, those 37 wins were very promising!


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The_Dud wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 4:37pm
fugazi wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 4:19pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 4:12pm 106 games
37 wins
0 finals

Sooner or later you get judged by w:l and the excuses dry up.
How the f#ck is he still there?
That really is the ONLY question.
To be fair, those 37 wins were very promising!
When Richo is sacked, the headline should simply read "Pleasing"


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tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
Skills and decision making need improvement

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saintkid wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 12:43pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26am
jaxons wrote: Sat 28 Jul 2018 11:56pm
st.byron wrote: Sat 28 Jul 2018 9:53pm
jaxons wrote: Sat 28 Jul 2018 6:51pm Our structures, ball movement and game plan are at VAFA standard.
We have talent but honestly we play a style that is embarrassing.
True the kicking is poor, a lot has to do with who they give the ball to and in what position they are in.

And who is responsible for that?
Lets just say that the title of this thread has merit.
The travesty is this board (and I fear) Lethlean are goingbthe easier path in blaming assistants to save their own ass, by all means sack and bring in some talented assistants but F*** Alan off too
I genuinely fear for our club
Richardson's post match commentary is an embarrassment to the club and even more to the supporters. The 'not taking chances' comment has been done to death. If he stays on. we will definitely hear this for years to come and ffs it is now impossible to hear and bear his time wasting dribble. So who is responsible Richardson? Why don't you look at yourself you clown of a coach? You have had several seasons AND pre-seasons to get their kicking right yet this year their scoring has gone even worse than last year, if that was ever possible! If it is the players fault purely (which I doubt), then your list management is completely substandard and you should be sacked. If it is your coaching and skills support team, which surely has to take a fair portion of the blame by now, then you and the other duds should have been sacked long ago!! You have had ample time (more than any other coach) to show what you can do and our club administration made the situation even worse by extending your contract without a performance based justification! Now our abysmal administrators don't having the balls due to debt issues to end this prolonged agony we the supporters see 'week in week out' by sending you marching. If the football department was properly run in the first place, they wouldn't have needed to bring in Simon Lethlean who, he himself, caused enough inner turmoil and dissent within AFL headquarters. In my honest opinion, his appointment is just another example that demonstrates how unprofessional and a laughing stock of the AFL competition of club has become!

Spot on. Nails the accountability trail, which at our club, is currently non existent.


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tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
Oh FFS. Big week at Moorabbin. About the tenth time I’ve heard you say that. Just another version of Richardson’s “we’ll learn from that and come back strongly”. Except they don’t. You’ve swallowed the party line hook, line and sinker. Blame the players, nothing wrong with the coaching, big week coming up blah blah blah....an endless stream of deflection.


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I think Tony is trying to say that there will be a few announcements.

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jaxons wrote: Sat 28 Jul 2018 6:51pm Our structures, ball movement and game plan are at VAFA standard.
We have talent but honestly we play a style that is embarrassing.
True the kicking is poor, a lot has to do with who they give the ball to and in what position they are in.
Who we kick to and where they are???? What, you mean we shouldnt be kicking it to our forwards who are 30 metres out almost directly in front????


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Post: # 1745253Post Con Gorozidis »

Tony is referring to the announcement of a new list manager.

The PR strategy of Richo is to use Elshaugh as the scapegoat in an effort buy himself a couple of extra seasons in the job.

If he blames recruiting, maybe people will continue to be fooled that he is not a complete numpty.


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BringBackMadDog wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 8:05pm
jaxons wrote: Sat 28 Jul 2018 6:51pm Our structures, ball movement and game plan are at VAFA standard.
We have talent but honestly we play a style that is embarrassing.
True the kicking is poor, a lot has to do with who they give the ball to and in what position they are in.
Who we kick to and where they are???? What, you mean we shouldnt be kicking it to our forwards who are 30 metres out almost directly in front????
Not when Richo makes them miss :D


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BringBackMadDog wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 8:05pm
jaxons wrote: Sat 28 Jul 2018 6:51pm Our structures, ball movement and game plan are at VAFA standard.
We have talent but honestly we play a style that is embarrassing.
True the kicking is poor, a lot has to do with who they give the ball to and in what position they are in.
Who we kick to and where they are???? What, you mean we shouldnt be kicking it to our forwards who are 30 metres out almost directly in front????
Jason's is right - Our ball movement must be substandard if we are only getting 60 inside 50s against a likely top 4 team :shock:

II watched a heap of games this weekend and majority of forward 50 entries from top 8 teams was a long bomb forward or a mongrel kick to a leading player with no space ..... of course there were a few exceptions

Our forwardline currently is top of the pile in terms of dysfunctionality due to injury and inexperience and our backline has struggled at times with injuries and suspensions to key backs Brown Carlisle Webster and Roberton but on the bright we have got games into plenty of younger players and they will be all the better for the experience.

It's been a shite and disappointing year for sure but we not are as far off as everyone thinks and history has shown that clubs can turn fortunes around in a blink of an eye especially if blessed with team stability which we have had none whatsoever this season.

I am as frustrated as any supporter but there is always a light at the end of that tunnel and this year just may be a warped godsend that will set us on the path to glorious salvation


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 8:35pm Tony is referring to the announcement of a new list manager.

The PR strategy of Richo is to use Elshaugh as the scapegoat in an effort buy himself a couple of extra seasons in the job.

If he blames recruiting, maybe people will continue to be fooled that he is not a complete numpty.
Who are you going to blame if our fortunes turn around and the team comes good under Richo?
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Con Gorozidis wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 8:35pm Tony is referring to the announcement of a new list manager.

The PR strategy of Richo is to use Elshaugh as the scapegoat in an effort buy himself a couple of extra seasons in the job.

If he blames recruiting, maybe people will continue to be fooled that he is not a complete numpty.
Gubby Allen yeah?


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I just hope Richo stays on and we have a good year next year...purely because of the amount of abuse he cops on here.


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 8:35pm Tony is referring to the announcement of a new list manager.

The PR strategy of Richo is to use Elshaugh as the scapegoat in an effort buy himself a couple of extra seasons in the job.

If he blames recruiting, maybe people will continue to be fooled that he is not a complete numpty.
by replacing the dead fish, Richo can claim that any poor performances next yr and 2020 are the fault of the Guppy, and 'it will take 2 yrs before the new guys (picked by new guy) will come good.
So yeah, he's loving this, it buys time


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tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
21 scoring shots. 21 to 22 should have been a line ball game against easily the second best team in the comp at the moment.

You don't get 21 scoring shots if the gameplan is dysfunctional.


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saintspremiers wrote: Thu 26 Jul 2018 7:43pm He’s picked Lonie again.

He must either be having an affair with little Jack or totally incompetent beyond any words.
Great call!!! You should put your hand up for a senior coaching gig somewhere, obviously you are a footy genius!!


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:18pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
21 scoring shots. 21 to 22 should have been a line ball game against easily the second best team in the comp at the moment.

You don't get 21 scoring shots if the gameplan is dysfunctional.
Poor T74. He comes on here to provide some info and thoughts for fans and then gets lambasted for what he posts. He probably doesn't really care about the abuse or reads it, but a bit of decorum wouldn't go astray for a genuine insider.


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rodgerfox wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 8:49pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 8:35pm Tony is referring to the announcement of a new list manager.

The PR strategy of Richo is to use Elshaugh as the scapegoat in an effort buy himself a couple of extra seasons in the job.

If he blames recruiting, maybe people will continue to be fooled that he is not a complete numpty.
Gubby Allen yeah?
Ha Ha!

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Linton Lodger wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:18pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
21 scoring shots. 21 to 22 should have been a line ball game against easily the second best team in the comp at the moment.

You don't get 21 scoring shots if the gameplan is dysfunctional.
Absolute nonsense of those entries are panicked, sideways handballs to a guy under pressure
Let’s be serious they probably don’t even take into account “junk time” entries
When the game is there to be won against a top pressure side we have been found badly wanting
THATS the measuring stick
I thought Lethleabs comments about how we “could’ve done more or acted quicker” to stem some of the bleeding against top sides in recent games was interesting
But equally , we ALL know he’s going the “sack assistants keep Alan” path which I think is ignoring the problem tbh
Actually could make matters worse IF Alan is as big a dud as I suspect, we bring in capable assistants who engineer a game plan and development program that sees us improve .....they’ll probably extend Alan for 5 years such is our Boards corporate BS incompetence


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The GWS game was an example of what I think Simon Lethlean is referring to when he says we could have done more in games to stop the bleeding. We actually lost the game in a short run against us in the third. In many games this year we have been playing well and when a team gets a run on we haven't had players that can step up with a counter strong arm. Roo was the man who led in that department for so long with this young team and so it makes sense to me when Simon claims we need more from our 50 to 100 game players. Aren't young teams renowned for inconsistency and not putting in for 4 quarters. On field leadership and more high end talent, we need more.


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BringBackMadDog wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:25pm
saintspremiers wrote: Thu 26 Jul 2018 7:43pm He’s picked Lonie again.

He must either be having an affair with little Jack or totally incompetent beyond any words.
Great call!!! You should put your hand up for a senior coaching gig somewhere, obviously you are a footy genius!!
2 goals 4 misses. He was surprisingly ok but as per usual couldn’t covert. He’ll be crap again soon enough and you know that.

Couldn’t care less what you think. Keep up your Richo apologist rubbish if you like but you ain’t got many mates on here.


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st.byron wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 7:32pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
Oh FFS. Big week at Moorabbin. About the tenth time I’ve heard you say that. Just another version of Richardson’s “we’ll learn from that and come back strongly”. Except they don’t. You’ve swallowed the party line hook, line and sinker. Blame the players, nothing wrong with the coaching, big week coming up blah blah blah....an endless stream of deflection.
How about you get off tony 74's back ffs.


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parkeysainter wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:34pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:18pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
21 scoring shots. 21 to 22 should have been a line ball game against easily the second best team in the comp at the moment.

You don't get 21 scoring shots if the gameplan is dysfunctional.
Poor T74. He comes on here to provide some info and thoughts for fans and then gets lambasted for what he posts. He probably doesn't really care about the abuse or reads it, but a bit of decorum wouldn't go astray for a genuine insider.
Decorum? On this forum? Nah, will never happen, too many wrist slashers. :wink: :wink:


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Linton Lodger wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:18pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
21 scoring shots. 21 to 22 should have been a line ball game against easily the second best team in the comp at the moment.

You don't get 21 scoring shots if the gameplan is dysfunctional.
13. 8 to 8.13. I make that 21 shots to both teams.

It's just that our guys are s*** at kicking .


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saynta wrote: Mon 30 Jul 2018 11:32am
parkeysainter wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:34pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 9:18pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:26pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sun 29 Jul 2018 2:09pm Geary being played loose man racking up possessions & turning it over. Cameron would’ve just laughed.

60 inside 50s for 8 goals & 21 scoring shots. Has there been a more inefficient team?

Richo’s gameplan & match day coaching is a joke.
Fairly hypocritical post. To win so many inside 50’s means there has to be some part of the game plan that’s pretty efficient. Big week at Moorabbin
21 scoring shots. 21 to 22 should have been a line ball game against easily the second best team in the comp at the moment.

You don't get 21 scoring shots if the gameplan is dysfunctional.
Poor T74. He comes on here to provide some info and thoughts for fans and then gets lambasted for what he posts. He probably doesn't really care about the abuse or reads it, but a bit of decorum wouldn't go astray for a genuine insider.
Decorum? On this forum? Nah, will never happen, too many wrist slashers. :wink: :wink:
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