anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
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anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
continually failing to kick to advantage to where you want the forward to lead- bombing it onto the head of the forwards , hand balling to s/o behind or within close proximity, no running to support, no one front and square, too many flying to spoil, missed shepherds as no intent to block, guarding space whilst the leading opponents forward runs between you, letting your man run off you ......
at every contest Richmond outnumbered the saints, whether forward or back. Richmond plays as a team!
at every contest Richmond outnumbered the saints, whether forward or back. Richmond plays as a team!
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Frequently picking underperforming players
Failing to experiment with player positions on the ground
Poor structure, players don’t know where to kick it to
Psychologically weak
Slow
Bad skills
Too many HBF types
Failing to experiment with player positions on the ground
Poor structure, players don’t know where to kick it to
Psychologically weak
Slow
Bad skills
Too many HBF types
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
The only thing I can say in defence of Richo is that we know the list isn’t good enough and it needs more overhaul and desperately needs more firepower
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Any chance we can give the ball to Billings and Gresham when they are free rather than s*** kicks burning the ball.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
It’s obvious this debacle of a game plan MUST come in some way from Richo
To suggest it doesn’t is also suggesting he can’t get a message across in 5 years..... highly possible imo
Regardless, to watch that inept rubbish of almost kamikaze type play where players almost play on immediately only to handball to a teammate in trouble or to faile to kick a ball (when a kick is needed) to our forwards advantage is laughable. It was last week too when we were papering over cracks in beating a shyte Carlton........difference being Carlton and thei coach are worse than us!
Whatever the Richo game plan is 2 things are obvious:
1. He’s trying to play a style of football that does not match our sides skill level
2. That style struggles against genuine top 4 class - whom we ought to be aspiring to compete against
Nothing will change, we are stuck with Alan cause this board knows they stuffed up in extending him but won’t admit it
The blues skyers will be along to tell us all “we need wins against shyte sides to boost our poor culture”
Facts are we lack serious talent, true onfield leadership and genuine coaching nous
Gonna be an interesting next 5 years in the wilderness....
To suggest it doesn’t is also suggesting he can’t get a message across in 5 years..... highly possible imo
Regardless, to watch that inept rubbish of almost kamikaze type play where players almost play on immediately only to handball to a teammate in trouble or to faile to kick a ball (when a kick is needed) to our forwards advantage is laughable. It was last week too when we were papering over cracks in beating a shyte Carlton........difference being Carlton and thei coach are worse than us!
Whatever the Richo game plan is 2 things are obvious:
1. He’s trying to play a style of football that does not match our sides skill level
2. That style struggles against genuine top 4 class - whom we ought to be aspiring to compete against
Nothing will change, we are stuck with Alan cause this board knows they stuffed up in extending him but won’t admit it
The blues skyers will be along to tell us all “we need wins against shyte sides to boost our poor culture”
Facts are we lack serious talent, true onfield leadership and genuine coaching nous
Gonna be an interesting next 5 years in the wilderness....
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
3rd Quarter Hardwick started 8 players in Tigers defence. 3 were free at half back. We therefore had the same and our players were shocked and didnt know what to do. They just mozied into the centre after the bounce. Tigers won clearance handballed to the spare players running forward who kicked over the heads of the 3 saints players who mozied into the centre. This happened 4 times in a row for 2 tigers goals. Bad coaching not to stop this after the first or 2nd time.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
nw7 wrote: ↑Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:33am 3rd Quarter Hardwick started 8 players in Tigers defence. 3 were free at half back. We therefore had the same and our players were shocked and didnt know what to do. They just mozied into the centre after the bounce. Tigers won clearance handballed to the spare players running forward who kicked over the heads of the 3 saints players who mozied into the centre. This happened 4 times in a row for 2 tigers goals. Bad coaching not to stop this after the first or 2nd time.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
But that is our gameplan!6621104 wrote: ↑Fri 20 Jul 2018 11:29pm continually failing to kick to advantage to where you want the forward to lead- bombing it onto the head of the forwards , hand balling to s/o behind or within close proximity, no running to support, no one front and square, too many flying to spoil, missed shepherds as no intent to block, guarding space whilst the leading opponents forward runs between you, letting your man run off you ......
at every contest Richmond outnumbered the saints, whether forward or back. Richmond plays as a team!
The players executed it to perfection.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Uncompetitive for another bloody game right from the start... it's deplorable.
Needs to go. This has gone on for nearly two years...
Game after game not even in it. No close loses, nothing. The list is better than this.
Needs to go. This has gone on for nearly two years...
Game after game not even in it. No close loses, nothing. The list is better than this.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
I’ve just watched Richo’s press conference and I know I’ve said it before but he really is INSIPID, seriously the players must yawn every time this c*** speaks.
Put some f****** passion in it Richo, or just f*** OFF!!!
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Put some f****** passion in it Richo, or just f*** OFF!!!
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Richo ducks.
Even when we cant win a season and he could give every young lad we have a run so gain invaluable experience he uses players that repeatedly underperform .
The greatest coach in any sport ever.....Knute Rockne - he said if you can't get players to do exactly what you want them to do, you are the problem and in sport problems get replaced. So either coach the players or go sweep a floor.
He never took poor players as an excuse. Given the sh!treat youth in the nation he made them high performers and later got great players and made them legends
Richo needs to learn how to sweep floors
Even when we cant win a season and he could give every young lad we have a run so gain invaluable experience he uses players that repeatedly underperform .
The greatest coach in any sport ever.....Knute Rockne - he said if you can't get players to do exactly what you want them to do, you are the problem and in sport problems get replaced. So either coach the players or go sweep a floor.
He never took poor players as an excuse. Given the sh!treat youth in the nation he made them high performers and later got great players and made them legends
Richo needs to learn how to sweep floors
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
If the Board doesnt sack Richo - Channel 7 will.
Saints are horrendous for ratings and advertising. Viewers change channel at 1/4 time.
Pressure will be mounting.
Saints are horrendous for ratings and advertising. Viewers change channel at 1/4 time.
Pressure will be mounting.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Reckon these points above are spot on the mark, sadly.Teflon wrote: ↑Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:25am
Whatever the Richo game plan is 2 things are obvious:
1. He’s trying to play a style of football that does not match our sides skill level
2. That style struggles against genuine top 4 class - whom we ought to be aspiring to compete against
Nothing will change, we are stuck with Alan cause this board knows they stuffed up in extending him but won’t admit it
The blues skyers will be along to tell us all “we need wins against shyte sides to boost our poor culture”
Facts are we lack serious talent, true onfield leadership and genuine coaching nous
Gonna be an interesting next 5 years in the wilderness....
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Richo, in his post debacle Holman speil, dog whistled, again, it's the players. The solution he mentioned sounded like bringing in Webster and Paton, I think. So his explanation and apparently the Football Department and Board is that it is the players*, and that is logical because they know Alan is the man for the job. As a coaching aside, I now think it has become cruel to make Gilbo & Mav perform in televised games as friends and family can watch - can't they be allowed to finish their careers with some dignity in the 2s.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
You are spot on but the worry is that Richo thought we had a TOP 4 list? He keeps praising Gilbert, Geary, Newnes, Weller and keeps playing Savage. Hickey is better than Longer but both are very poor Ruckman. Richo needs a reality check with our list or we will never improve it.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
We're being unfair to Richo, StKilda FC should release him from his contract so he can be head coach
of a team of A-graders and show what he can do!
We aint that team.
of a team of A-graders and show what he can do!
We aint that team.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Exactly. No idea why people are even discussing whether it’s the players, assistants or anyone else. The man has had five years and we are deplorable.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
You wouldn't go out and hire a coach with a 35 per cent winning record over five years (no matter what the perceived extenuating circumstances were).
So why would you retain one?
So why would you retain one?
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Yep. But we also played two and at times three behind the ball. Wot the f*** was that.nw7 wrote: ↑Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:33am 3rd Quarter Hardwick started 8 players in Tigers defence. 3 were free at half back. We therefore had the same and our players were shocked and didnt know what to do. They just mozied into the centre after the bounce. Tigers won clearance handballed to the spare players running forward who kicked over the heads of the 3 saints players who mozied into the centre. This happened 4 times in a row for 2 tigers goals. Bad coaching not to stop this after the first or 2nd time.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
For a team that was supposed to come out swinging, according to the coach at a presser earlier in the week, what was delivered was beyond disappointing. The match should have meant something to the club (Maddie's Vision) and it made the performance even more dispiriting.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
We have two quality players - Jade Gresham and Jake Carlisle. It's the worst Saints list ever. We are not within 10 years of being a top team or even a finalist for that matter. Our current coaching panel has answered the age old question : Can coaches improve the skills of duds? The answer is NO.
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Re: anyone who says it is not poor coaching needs to explain why
Has it occurred to Channel 7 that nobody's watching because:congorozides wrote: ↑Sat 21 Jul 2018 2:03am If the Board doesnt sack Richo - Channel 7 will.
Saints are horrendous for ratings and advertising. Viewers change channel at 1/4 time.
Pressure will be mounting.
Most people prefer watching on Foxtel or Online because 7's coverage is so deplorably pitiful. Not to mention the fact that you get commercials as well. Why would anyone watch it on 7. Who on earth watches free to air TV anymore? It is such utter garbage.
Free to air television is a rapidly dying dinosaur, irrelevent or soon will be, low brow s***. Who gives a toss what they think.