Free Kick Count

[congorozides]

We won the frees 24-13

Curls?

[CURLY]

We won the frees 24-13

Curls?

How many goals did they get from frees?

Martins free and goal in the first minute was laughable and set the tone. Caddy tackling Steven after he handballed gets paid dropping it goal Richmond.

We got the last 6 frees big deal no forward 50 frees.

[Milne]

Based on many different posts over the years this was the only thing holding us back from winning

[st.byron]

We won the frees 24-13

Curls?

I reckon he’s actually a robot programmed with a one track operating system.

[The Fireman]

we were robbed

[The_Dud]

We won the frees 24-13

Curls?

How many goals did they get from frees?

Martins free and goal in the first minute was laughable and set the tone. Caddy tackling Steven after he handballed gets paid dropping it goal Richmond.

We got the last 6 frees big deal no forward 50 frees.

Haha, always try to twist it to fit your delusion

[saintbob]

How many frees weren’t paid against Martin, yet again!!!

[BackFromUSA]

We won the frees 24-13

Curls?

The number isn't actually a true reflection of the free kick count.

Richmond has adopted the Hawthorn strategy to give away deliberate free kicks to slow down a run on and stop overlap running. The free forces the opponent to have to go back from the mark to re-start play, as they then scramble to cover all options. More than half the free kicks we received were deliberate when we were on the burst. Great coaching / great footy by them but inflates the free kicks for St Kilda stat.

The last ten minutes was also a joke as we got free kick after free kick and even a 50 metre penalty from the backline.

Of the 50/50 calls I am not so sure we did so well.

There were also plenty of blatant free kicks that we didn't get - head high contact, being held without the ball, pushes in the back but after them receiving a couple of VERY soft forward 50 frees in the first half, it was hard to swallow the forward 50 frees that we did not receive - two in particular I recall but only one of them cost us a goal, because we got a goal from the other one (that Weller deserved for holding) which Gresham snapped anyway.

The one that absolutely should have been paid was (I think) Marshall in the goal square vs 2 tigers and he was held and blocked from going for the mark. From memory 20 minutes or so into the 3rd quarter.

And Dusty gets away with murder.

The umpires tonight umpired with a mind to watch out for St Kilda "holding" Richmond and it reflected in the first half decisions.

In an even playing field would we have won?

No.

The result was about right.

Had they not got the rub of the green (literally) in the first half, the Tigers would have won the game by 8-10 goals anyway.

Was the margin I was expecting all night.

[saynta]

We won the frees 24-13

Curls?

The number isn't actually a true reflection of the free kick count.

Richmond has adopted the Hawthorn strategy to give away deliberate free kicks to slow down a run on and stop overlap running. The free forces the opponent to have to go back from the mark to re-start play, as they then scramble to cover all options. More than half the free kicks we received were deliberate when we were on the burst. Great coaching / great footy by them but inflates the free kicks for St Kilda stat.

The last ten minutes was also a joke as we got free kick after free kick and even a 50 metre penalty from the backline.

Of the 50/50 calls I am not so sure we did so well.

There were also plenty of blatant free kicks that we didn't get - head high contact, being held without the ball, pushes in the back but after them receiving a couple of VERY soft forward 50 frees in the first half, it was hard to swallow the forward 50 frees that we did not receive - two in particular I recall but only one of them cost us a goal, because we got a goal from the other one (that Weller deserved for holding) which Gresham snapped anyway.

The one that absolutely should have been paid was (I think) Marshall in the goal square vs 2 tigers and he was held and blocked from going for the mark. From memory 20 minutes or so into the 3rd quarter.

And Dusty gets away with murder.

The umpires tonight umpired with a mind to watch out for St Kilda "holding" Richmond and it reflected in the first half decisions.

In an even playing field would we have won?

No.

The result was about right.

Had they not got the rub of the green (literally) in the first half, the Tigers would have won the game by 8-10 goals anyway.

Was the margin I was expecting all night.

Spot on. It is the frees not paid that harmed us last night. The three or four that the tigers got from soft frees didn't help.

The tigers got 6 free kicks inside their forward 50. We got one

Shocking maggot display all round.

[sunsaint]

What about the frees not paid to Richmond?

[Con Gorozidis]

What about the frees not paid to Richmond?

Strangely enough Curls does not keep notes on those ones

[Spud]

We won the frees 24-13

Curls?

The number isn't actually a true reflection of the free kick count.

Richmond has adopted the Hawthorn strategy to give away deliberate free kicks to slow down a run on and stop overlap running. The free forces the opponent to have to go back from the mark to re-start play, as they then scramble to cover all options. More than half the free kicks we received were deliberate when we were on the burst. Great coaching / great footy by them but inflates the free kicks for St Kilda stat.

The last ten minutes was also a joke as we got free kick after free kick and even a 50 metre penalty from the backline.

Of the 50/50 calls I am not so sure we did so well.

There were also plenty of blatant free kicks that we didn't get - head high contact, being held without the ball, pushes in the back but after them receiving a couple of VERY soft forward 50 frees in the first half, it was hard to swallow the forward 50 frees that we did not receive - two in particular I recall but only one of them cost us a goal, because we got a goal from the other one (that Weller deserved for holding) which Gresham snapped anyway.

The one that absolutely should have been paid was (I think) Marshall in the goal square vs 2 tigers and he was held and blocked from going for the mark. From memory 20 minutes or so into the 3rd quarter.

And Dusty gets away with murder.

The umpires tonight umpired with a mind to watch out for St Kilda "holding" Richmond and it reflected in the first half decisions.

In an even playing field would we have won?

No.

The result was about right.

Had they not got the rub of the green (literally) in the first half, the Tigers would have won the game by 8-10 goals anyway.

Was the margin I was expecting all night.

Spot on. It is the frees not paid that harmed us last night. The three or four that the tigers got from soft frees didn't help.

The tigers got 6 free kicks inside their forward 50. We got one

Shocking maggot display all round.

I always say ‘it’s not what frees are given, it’s where they’re given’.

[skeptic]

I’ve always believed that there is a secret anti-St.Kilda movement in the AFL. The umpires are in on it as is the AFL that only watches them sometimes...

And the Dud was sent by the AFL to Saintsational under the guise of a supporter to lead us astray.

The truth is out there

[The_Dud]

It takes a special kind of supporter to whinge about the umpiring when their team has literally nearly doubled the oppositions free kick count!

[CURLY]

What about the frees not paid to Richmond?

Strangely enough Curls does not keep notes on those ones

How do you know I don’t?

[kosifantutti]

Pretty naive of anyone to think the free kick count is any reflection on the umpires favouring one team or the other.
They pay or don’t pay marks that they sometimes get wrong.
They pay or don’t pay 50s.
They call or don’t call players to play on
They pay advantage or they don’t
They line up players kicking for goal
Then there’s the boundary umpires the goal umpires and the video review people

All of the above can affect a game yet none of them impact on the free kick count.

Sometimes paying a free can even be a disadvantage.

You can “win” the free kick count and still get a rough deal. Or vice versa.

[saynta]

Pretty naive of anyone to think the free kick count is any reflection on the umpires favouring one team or the other.
They pay or don’t pay marks that they sometimes get wrong.
They pay or don’t pay 50s.
They call or don’t call players to play on
They pay advantage or they don’t
They line up players kicking for goal
Then there’s the boundary umpires the goal umpires and the video review people

All of the above can affect a game yet none of them impact on the free kick count.

Sometimes paying a free can even be a disadvantage.

You can “win” the free kick count and still get a rough deal. Or vice versa.

Most of your comments are spot on.