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Junior wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 9:07pm
Recommend people watch the replay and listen to Pavlich’s comments think he would have more of a clue than the usual suspect who does nothing but s*** can players.
Why dont you just f*** off Con you dumb prick.
Oh that’s right you did in a look at me look at me post but like a bad smell returned you absolute s*** stain.
He has been building form and showing improvement has a bad game where the ball use resembled an under 10 games and had to compete against an outnumber most of the game a point well articulated by Pavlich.
But then again what should we expect after all you bagged Billings after his first ever NAB cup game, never seen a so called supporter take so much joy out of
Bagging our players, silent when going okay but back with vengeance when they are not.
Reckon a postage stamp would be too big for you to write down what you know about the hame you dumb arse clown.
What did Pav say?
Who cares what Pav says on the Channel 7 broadcast.
Professional broadcasters are paid and trained to sell hope to supporters. Keep them interested. Keep them watching. This is to sell advertising space.
Just how dumb are you junior?
What matters is what Pav thinks and says in PRIVATE.
So unless junior boy here is a very close private friend of Pav - then seriously it is clear who is dumb...And it aint me.
Con Gorozidis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 8:55pm
Reality check for those making excuses.
Paddy McCartin - 34 goals from 35 games. 22 years old. Average team.
Charlie Curnow - 51 goals from 40 games. 21 years old. s*** team.
Eric Hipwood - 68 goals from 45 games. 20 years old. s*** team.
Either of those two broke a collarbone or been knocked out 3 times in games?
Dunno.
But maybe they have peripheral vision, awareness and agility and are therefore less likely to get injured?
Or maybe they’ve just been lucky.
Seriously Curly? With all due respect is that what you think? Well maybe you need to objectively watch these other guys go about it to realise that it may be more than luck. McCartin is much slower and so awkward in his general play that, consider for a moment, this is what just might make him more vulnerable to the setbacks he's had.
Paddy needs to go back to the VFL and find some form. I mean real form as well. Big bag form. Paddy's not the sort of forward who contributes a lot when he's not kicking goals. He's not as mobile as Battle or Membrey. He can't ruck like Marshall can. At the moment, Paddy might be the 5th best key forward on our list - before even considering Carlisle.
Given Richo's dogged persistence with things that aren't working, I expect Paddy will play against Carlton in the hopes of running him into some form. Hopefully it works. I've just about given up.
Con Gorozidis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 8:55pm
Reality check for those making excuses.
Paddy McCartin - 34 goals from 35 games. 22 years old. Average team.
Charlie Curnow - 51 goals from 40 games. 21 years old. s*** team.
Eric Hipwood - 68 goals from 45 games. 20 years old. s*** team.
Either of those two broke a collarbone or been knocked out 3 times in games?
Dunno.
But maybe they have peripheral vision, awareness and agility and are therefore less likely to get injured?
Or maybe they’ve just been lucky.
Seriously Curly? With all due respect is that what you think? Well maybe you need to objectively watch these other guys go about it to realise that it may be more than luck. McCartin is much slower and so awkward in his general play that, consider for a moment, this is what just might make him more vulnerable to the setbacks he's had.
Paddy has never had a clean run. Broken collarbones head knocks and hammers. Even today he rolled a ankle early. Now anyone with any idea will know that an injury like that restricts your movement and mobility. But let’s pot him it’s easier.
Junior wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 9:07pm
Recommend people watch the replay and listen to Pavlich’s comments think he would have more of a clue than the usual suspect who does nothing but s*** can players.
Why dont you just f*** off Con you dumb prick.
Oh that’s right you did in a look at me look at me post but like a bad smell returned you absolute s*** stain.
He has been building form and showing improvement has a bad game where the ball use resembled an under 10 games and had to compete against an outnumber most of the game a point well articulated by Pavlich.
But then again what should we expect after all you bagged Billings after his first ever NAB cup game, never seen a so called supporter take so much joy out of
Bagging our players, silent when going okay but back with vengeance when they are not.
Reckon a postage stamp would be too big for you to write down what you know about the hame you dumb arse clown.
Good post and the truth.
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
Ape_Man wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 10:00pm
There are obviously polarising opinions on Paddy.
I love this forum because we can express these opinions. But let’s not turn this into petty attacks.
Argue the opinion all you want.
Don’t attack the person.
Well said. Unfortunately some here can't help themselves. The posts in this thread about Con by Junior are poor form and have gone too far. Mods make a statement here.
Lay off Paddy. A champ one week, a dud the next on here. We just played a top 4 side and he was up against a good defence. He was our only key forward.
The kid is 22 and played under 50 games. He is getting better and has had a decent year considering his injuries and head clashes from the past. Thd kid tries his guts out and loves the Saints. He will always be a better footballer than 99.9% of us on here.
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
I don't think I have ever said anything negative about Paddy before on this forum ( apologies if that is wrong ) , hoping he would show something to excite. I do fear it will not happen. I really hope I am wrong, but that hope is fading. There are so many facets of his game where he is found wanting. So many things that need to improve . I wish that it were not so.
Con Gorozidis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 10:30pm
Pav already had 80 AFL goals at the age Paddy is at now.
Only 46 goals short I guess....
What’s your point?
I have several.
1. Pav's broadcast opinion may not reflect his private opinion. Broadcasters jobs are to promote the game, entertain and sell advertising. Not tell the truth.
2. McCartin is well well below par for a 22 year old key fwd. If he is going to be the gun people are hoping for there would need to be a dramatic metamorphosis.
Ape_Man wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 10:00pm
There are obviously polarising opinions on Paddy.
I love this forum because we can express these opinions. But let’s not turn this into petty attacks.
Argue the opinion all you want.
Don’t attack the person.
Well said. Unfortunately some here can't help themselves. The posts in this thread about Con by Junior are poor form and have gone too far. Mods make a statement here.
An immediate 1 day ban has already been issued. Please use the report function rather than post. A post may not get read but the alert gets our attention.
AwayInUSA no longer ... have based myself back in Melbourne for a decade of Saintsational Success (with regular trips back to the USA)
Con Gorozidis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 10:30pm
Pav already had 80 AFL goals at the age Paddy is at now.
Only 46 goals short I guess....
What’s your point?
I have several.
1. Pav's broadcast opinion may not reflect his private opinion. Broadcasters jobs are to promote the game, entertain and sell advertising. Not tell the truth.
2. McCartin is well well below par for a 22 year old key fwd. If he is going to be the gun people are hoping for there would need to be a dramatic metamorphosis.
If Paddy had a injury free run your opinion may have some merit.
The lack of impact by both McCartin and Membrey today was due to selection
The side was unbalanced with one key forward then a mid field size player playing as a key forward (hence a strength being a weakness due to selection)
The same with our defence - tall players do not get shorter hence Dixon getting us in the last
With Longer we could not even look to mix it up by putting him forward and kicking to a height contest - and, due to Longer’s limitations we can not compliment him because when he is on the ground he has to ruck
So that stuffs our balance and forces us to ruck Acres, Battle and McCartin so weakening structure because Longer, if not rucking, is not on the ground
Everett and Lazar complimented each other and could both be on the ground at the same time, Everitt forward and Lazar back to support our defence
They did not have to exclusively ruck to remain on the ground
Same when we had Gardiner and King
Hence my views on selecting Longer
Not only can he not contribute he stuffs our balance and our options
Hickey and Marshall can compliment each other
Granted VFL level against a bottom side but Hickey 28 disposals and Marshall 3 goals
So for 2 weeks in a row Hickey and Marshall have shown they compliment each other
They had nearly 50 disposals between them v Port Melbourne
And today may have replicated that
Get off McCartin’s back and get into the back of our Coach and selectors
Con Gorozidis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Jul 2018 10:30pm
Pav already had 80 AFL goals at the age Paddy is at now.
Only 46 goals short I guess....
What’s your point?
I have several.
1. Pav's broadcast opinion may not reflect his private opinion. Broadcasters jobs are to promote the game, entertain and sell advertising. Not tell the truth.
2. McCartin is well well below par for a 22 year old key fwd. If he is going to be the gun people are hoping for there would need to be a dramatic metamorphosis.
If Paddy had a injury free run your opinion may have some merit.
If I had a bit of luck id be banging a model on a yacht right now.
So what.
I deal in reality not coulda, shoulda, woulda which seems to be your stock and trade.
