Good friday loss derailed the saints both on and off the field

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Good friday loss derailed the saints both on and off the field

Post: # 1738522Post saynta »

Well, according to Richo it did.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... de7e945659


"Richardson revealed how the Round 2 loss to North Melbourne derailed St Kilda’s season.

St Kilda entered the highly-anticipated Good Friday clash as firm favourite but was torched by a seven-goals-to-none final term by the Kangaroos and humbled by 52 points.
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The defeat triggered an 11-match sequence without a win, a stretch that sunk any finals ambitions and poured heat on players and those in charge at the club.

“The Kangaroos game, in hindsight it probably wasn’t a disastrous performance, the margin in the end was really poor, that really dented our belief,” Richardson said.

“And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

“The first thing to go was our offence. We became a really conservative, boring footy team. We couldn’t kick a score.

“Then as our form started to come back it coincided with injuries, now I don’t want to make excuses, that’s just reality.

“The positive in that is we’ve been able to expose a lot of young players to senior footy.”

The Saints have introduced four debutants this season — Hunter Clark, Nick Coffield, Ed Phillips and Bailey Rice — while other youngsters in Josh Battle, Ben Long, Rowan Marshall, and Logan Austin have also been thrust into senior action.

St Kilda has used 36 players, equal with Essendon, Geelong and the Western Bulldogs. Only Gold Coast (38) has used more."

And Lethlean is quoted in the article as saying

"“I see a playing list and a coaching staff that needs more support, more insights and a few more smart, hardworking people in our football program to actually give the tools … that can help our players and coaches be better."


There is also a fair bit about improving the list.

Worth a read actually.


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“And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.


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Post: # 1738528Post saynta »

Listening to Simon, I am. betting we might just see another young player debut this weekend.


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Post: # 1738529Post Devilhead »

desertsaint wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 6:52pm “And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.
GWS draw I assume


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The writing was on the wall during the jlt games
the good Friday game just ended our season


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Post: # 1738538Post kosifantutti »

desertsaint wrote:“And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.
Last quarter of Suns game.


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kosifantutti wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 7:34pm
desertsaint wrote:“And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.
Last quarter of Suns game.
it's a bit of a worry if richo thinks this. but what else can he mean?
guess the proof will be in the pudding we eat this weekend.


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It’s about the same time my passion for this season died.


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Post: # 1738561Post Enrico_Misso »

kosifantutti wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 7:34pm
desertsaint wrote:“And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.
Last quarter of Suns game.
Against a side whose "spot form" was the worst in the league and who hadn't scored a final quarter goal in a month!
Even then we only got over the line in that last quarter through sheer weight of forward entries rather than precision football.


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Post: # 1738569Post Teflon »

How ridiculous
Season derailed Rd 2
That only happens when you are seriously overrating a list in a delusional manner - how the ferk could you do that???? Blind Freddy knew we didn’t have the elite talent needed to seriously challenge
Doesn’t anyone else find that odd?
This is just garbage ass covering
We are stuck for 2 years that’s what they can’t say


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desertsaint wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 9:16pm
kosifantutti wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 7:34pm
desertsaint wrote:“And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.
Last quarter of Suns game.
it's a bit of a worry if richo thinks this. but what else can he mean?
guess the proof will be in the pudding we eat this weekend.

am not as worried about the ingredients in our pudding as some on here. but from reading that article........... not sure if the chef is reading from the right recipe book? kind of reminds me of a colleague of mine.

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Post: # 1738572Post Enrico_Misso »

We were derailed in Round One 1897 when Collingwood more than doubled our score at Victoria Park.


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Post: # 1738597Post CarlD »

You hear some weird things in football but that comment from Richo is just very odd (I am assuming he was quoted correctly). Why would a team give up a season on the back of one poor quarter in the second game?

That one line says more about the leadership and coaching than anything else.


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Post: # 1738598Post The Craw »

saynta wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 6:27pm Well, according to Richo it did.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... de7e945659

“The Kangaroos game, in hindsight it probably wasn’t a disastrous performance, the margin in the end was really poor, that really dented our belief,” Richardson said.
If Richo did not think that the Kangaroos game was not disastrous then this club is in for a world of pain ......

It was, categorically the worst performance I have seen by a St Kilda team.

What drugs is this bloke on !!!!


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Post: # 1738601Post Saintmatt »

Devilhead wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 7:18pm
desertsaint wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 6:52pm “And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.
GWS draw I assume
Yep - that was after the players had to go to the complete fu(ktard coaches mid-game the week before against Geelong and ask for another number ahead of the ball so they had something to kick to. They basically played the GWS game the way they played last year - pressure on the man; pressure on the ball carrier. None of this fu(king guarding grass bullsh!t they've tried this year.

In any case - f*** off Richo - you embarrassing dribbler.

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Post: # 1738603Post Saintmatt »

CarlD wrote: Fri 29 Jun 2018 10:04am You hear some weird things in football but that comment from Richo is just very odd (I am assuming he was quoted correctly). Why would a team give up a season on the back of one poor quarter in the second game?

That one line says more about the leadership and coaching than anything else.
I think there's a massive element of "we knew we had that sh!tful performance in us as we've got skill deficiencies all over the park but we were hoping like hell it wouldn't actually appear - let alone on a standalone TV game". And when it did happen - they had zero idea how to go about dealing with it.

Denial, denial ...


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Saintmatt wrote: Fri 29 Jun 2018 10:26am
CarlD wrote: Fri 29 Jun 2018 10:04am You hear some weird things in football but that comment from Richo is just very odd (I am assuming he was quoted correctly). Why would a team give up a season on the back of one poor quarter in the second game?

That one line says more about the leadership and coaching than anything else.
I think there's a massive element of "we knew we had that sh!tful performance in us as we've got skill deficiencies all over the park but we were hoping like hell it wouldn't actually appear - let alone on a standalone TV game". And when it did happen - they had zero idea how to go about dealing with it.

Denial, denial ...
Yep....denial denial. This interview with Richardson, Summers’ email message......the same tone. Trying to look accountable, “but we are not really the problem”.......”it’ll get better we promise”.......”we have a great opportunity to improve in the remaining games”.........and seriously, Armo and Geary are essential pieces in our recovery...oh dear.
Am totally over the excuses. We are going nowhere with these guys in charge.


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It was a shocking performance against North Melbourne especially as most of us would have a predicted a win against the lowly roos....I think that game showed where we were really at....and after game 2...


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Probably among the worst games that i have seen by the saints.

I was down the coast on the easter break but decided to drive back to town to watch the game with the kids. It was a terrible game of football, not st.kildas fault as nth were just as terrible but we missed an embarrassing amount of goals from right in front and were 2.10 each at 1/2 time, i think we kicked 1.9 in the 2nd quarter.

acres kicked an amazing late goal in the 3rd from around 50 metres out (brilliant goal) and were i think 1 goal down

i felt we were still in the game 1/2 way in the last quarter (what 20 odd points down or something), membrey and mccartin missed from right in front and then nth kicked a bunch of junk time goals to bring the margin out to 50 odd points.

we just gave up, it was appalling. north players knew it and were rubbing it in.

to make matters worse i forgot the easter eggs for the easter egg hunt at home on the drive back up the coast.

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Post: # 1738646Post MC Gusto »

Agree with the sentiment shared here

Of course the result was disasterous! How could it not be if he is linking it to the downfall of the season. Equally, as most have said, if one loss equates to the ending of a season then that is a severe failing in leadership and a significant overrating of capability.
Finally, he is delusional if he thinks we are playing good hard, attacking, positive football (however he describes it) I reckon across the 11 losses we’ve probably shown about 2-3 quarters worth in total that would fit this description

What a tard...yet according to the club he isn’t the problem


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chico2001 wrote: Fri 29 Jun 2018 1:28pm It was a shocking performance against North Melbourne especially as most of us would have a predicted a win against the lowly roos....I think that game showed where we were really at....and after game 2...
That loss, or norths win more specifically, showed what a club with grit, determination, belief and strong leadership can do.

As much as it pains me to say it Scott is having his best season ever based on the list at his disposal and the players are most definitely ‘playing’ for him and for each other
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some muppet wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 11:34pm
desertsaint wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 9:16pm
kosifantutti wrote: Thu 28 Jun 2018 7:34pm
desertsaint wrote:“And that took a while to recover, to be able to get the guys back playing really bold, aggressive footy.

when did this "recovery" happen? i missed it.
Last quarter of Suns game.
it's a bit of a worry if richo thinks this. but what else can he mean?
guess the proof will be in the pudding we eat this weekend.

Am not as worried about the ingredients in our pudding as some on here. But from reading that article........... not sure if the chef is reading from the right recipe book? Kind of reminds me of a college of mine.

chef's an idiot. what's rowlf the dog have to say about it?


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Post: # 1738649Post chico2001 »

exactly gusto......that sums it up. North were lowly last year and we were coming off 11 wins. This should not have been the defining game for the saints but Richardson let it be and did not arrest the slide. The players dropped off or were they even on song 2018 ? Whatever it was , it has cost the club dearly and if they dont make some MAJOR changes end of year then the club will notice a 30% decrease in members and attendance and that wont be nice and it wont be pretty.


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Post: # 1738650Post saynta »

MC Gusto wrote: Fri 29 Jun 2018 2:39pm Agree with the sentiment shared here

Of course the result was disasterous! How could it not be if he is linking it to the downfall of the season. Equally, as most have said, if one loss equates to the ending of a season then that is a severe failing in leadership and a significant overrating of capability.
Finally, he is delusional if he thinks we are playing good hard, attacking, positive football (however he describes it) I reckon across the 11 losses we’ve probably shown about 2-3 quarters worth in total that would fit this description

What a tard...yet according to the club he isn’t the problem
IMHO, the rot started last year after the blues game and continued through this seasons pre season


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Post: # 1738652Post chico2001 »

yes, the pre-season was ordinary as well.


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