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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... c7608ba1d1


"Sam Gilbert rejects Nick Riewoldt’s assessment that St Kilda players don’t receive honest feedback

The last remaining on-field link to St Kilda’s back-to-back grand final sides is shaking off former captain Nick Riewoldt’s “brutal” comments questioning the club’s playing group.

Fresh off the Saints returning to the winners’ list against Gold Coast on Saturday, veteran defender Sam Gilbert rejected his ex-skipper’s assessment that the players weren’t receiving honest feedback after their dismal 2-10 start.

“I’ve obviously played a lot of footy with ‘Roo’ and he’s an incredible leader, incredible bloke and a good friend of mine — and that’s his opinion,” Gilbert said.


“But I see internally that … we’re trying to improve and I think (coach Alan Richardson) is really pushing to improve as a team.”

Riewoldt recently revealed he was “frustrated” at a perceived lack of harsh feedback during his final years at the club in the wake of the club’s embarrassing 71-point loss to Sydney in round 12.


“Rooey’s been part of the team for a long period … (but) every week we want to improve,” Gilbert said.

“That’s been the main focus all year.”

The 31-year-old defender wasn’t part of St Kilda’s pressure-releasing, comeback victory over the Suns at Metricon Stadium, but reckons the result could prove a turning point for the struggling Saints.

“It’s definitely a step in the right direction,” he said.

“The boys played incredibly well that last quarter. It shows a bit of the blueprint of the way that we want to play.

“If we can match that going into next week’s game (against Melbourne on July 1), I’m sure we’re going to be in a position to win or at least be in the game.”


Disputed what roo said rather than potted him maybe.
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Post: # 1737742Post Teflon »

saynta wrote: Wed 20 Jun 2018 4:31pm https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... c7608ba1d1


"Sam Gilbert rejects Nick Riewoldt’s assessment that St Kilda players don’t receive honest feedback

The last remaining on-field link to St Kilda’s back-to-back grand final sides is shaking off former captain Nick Riewoldt’s “brutal” comments questioning the club’s playing group.

Fresh off the Saints returning to the winners’ list against Gold Coast on Saturday, veteran defender Sam Gilbert rejected his ex-skipper’s assessment that the players weren’t receiving honest feedback after their dismal 2-10 start.

“I’ve obviously played a lot of footy with ‘Roo’ and he’s an incredible leader, incredible bloke and a good friend of mine — and that’s his opinion,” Gilbert said.


“But I see internally that … we’re trying to improve and I think (coach Alan Richardson) is really pushing to improve as a team.”

Riewoldt recently revealed he was “frustrated” at a perceived lack of harsh feedback during his final years at the club in the wake of the club’s embarrassing 71-point loss to Sydney in round 12.


“Rooey’s been part of the team for a long period … (but) every week we want to improve,” Gilbert said.

“That’s been the main focus all year.”

The 31-year-old defender wasn’t part of St Kilda’s pressure-releasing, comeback victory over the Suns at Metricon Stadium, but reckons the result could prove a turning point for the struggling Saints.

“It’s definitely a step in the right direction,” he said.

“The boys played incredibly well that last quarter. It shows a bit of the blueprint of the way that we want to play.

“If we can match that going into next week’s game (against Melbourne on July 1), I’m sure we’re going to be in a position to win or at least be in the game.”


Disputed what roo said rather than potted him maybe.
Hardly “Fired Back”
I’d say greatest nothing piece I’ve seen for a while (and I’ve also read all your post Stinger so that’s saying something...)


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Post: # 1737744Post mr six o'clock »

Gilbo will be out of a job shortly if he doesn't grease the wheels a bit .
Can't blame him for that


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Post: # 1737757Post WellardSaint »

answered like a politician.
But Roo was brutally honest and didn't mince words at all


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Post: # 1737789Post barneyboyz »

Teflon wrote: Wed 20 Jun 2018 11:11pm
saynta wrote: Wed 20 Jun 2018 4:31pm https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... c7608ba1d1


"Sam Gilbert rejects Nick Riewoldt’s assessment that St Kilda players don’t receive honest feedback

The last remaining on-field link to St Kilda’s back-to-back grand final sides is shaking off former captain Nick Riewoldt’s “brutal” comments questioning the club’s playing group.

Fresh off the Saints returning to the winners’ list against Gold Coast on Saturday, veteran defender Sam Gilbert rejected his ex-skipper’s assessment that the players weren’t receiving honest feedback after their dismal 2-10 start.

“I’ve obviously played a lot of footy with ‘Roo’ and he’s an incredible leader, incredible bloke and a good friend of mine — and that’s his opinion,” Gilbert said.


“But I see internally that … we’re trying to improve and I think (coach Alan Richardson) is really pushing to improve as a team.”

Riewoldt recently revealed he was “frustrated” at a perceived lack of harsh feedback during his final years at the club in the wake of the club’s embarrassing 71-point loss to Sydney in round 12.


“Rooey’s been part of the team for a long period … (but) every week we want to improve,” Gilbert said.

“That’s been the main focus all year.”

The 31-year-old defender wasn’t part of St Kilda’s pressure-releasing, comeback victory over the Suns at Metricon Stadium, but reckons the result could prove a turning point for the struggling Saints.

“It’s definitely a step in the right direction,” he said.

“The boys played incredibly well that last quarter. It shows a bit of the blueprint of the way that we want to play.

“If we can match that going into next week’s game (against Melbourne on July 1), I’m sure we’re going to be in a position to win or at least be in the game.”


Disputed what roo said rather than potted him maybe.
Hardly “Fired Back”
I’d say greatest nothing piece I’ve seen for a while (and I’ve also read all your post Stinger so that’s saying something...)
I see a measured response tbh. What would harsh, but honest feedback be worth to a bunch of first/second year players? Yes, the core group would be copping heaps in private.

Interestingly, when I watch pre or post game vision of the group, I still see that many of them are still coming to grips with being a part of that group. It will take time for the natural personality of a team to come through.

The mix of Steele, Rice, Long, Coff, Clark and Co. including next years new players will become that persona


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Post: # 1737792Post chico2001 »

Agree with Teflon....a load of nothing.

If thats Gilbert's idea of a "blueprint" way to play, well that about sums up the saints. Get behind at 3/4 time by 5/6 goals then come home and win by a couple of points.......yeah right. Keep doing that.


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Post: # 1737798Post saynta »

chico2001 wrote: Thu 21 Jun 2018 2:21pm Agree with Teflon....a load of nothing.

If thats Gilbert's idea of a "blueprint" way to play, well that about sums up the saints. Get behind at 3/4 time by 5/6 goals then come home and win by a couple of points.......yeah right. Keep doing that.
Wasn't written by me,

I guess I will have to stop posting articles that posters don't normally see or get to read.


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saynta wrote: Wed 20 Jun 2018 4:31pm https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... c7608ba1d1


"Sam Gilbert rejects Nick Riewoldt’s assessment that St Kilda players don’t receive honest feedback

The last remaining on-field link to St Kilda’s back-to-back grand final sides is shaking off former captain Nick Riewoldt’s “brutal” comments questioning the club’s playing group.

Fresh off the Saints returning to the winners’ list against Gold Coast on Saturday, veteran defender Sam Gilbert rejected his ex-skipper’s assessment that the players weren’t receiving honest feedback after their dismal 2-10 start.

“I’ve obviously played a lot of footy with ‘Roo’ and he’s an incredible leader, incredible bloke and a good friend of mine — and that’s his opinion,” Gilbert said.


“But I see internally that … we’re trying to improve and I think (coach Alan Richardson) is really pushing to improve as a team.”

Riewoldt recently revealed he was “frustrated” at a perceived lack of harsh feedback during his final years at the club in the wake of the club’s embarrassing 71-point loss to Sydney in round 12.


“Rooey’s been part of the team for a long period … (but) every week we want to improve,” Gilbert said.

“That’s been the main focus all year.”

The 31-year-old defender wasn’t part of St Kilda’s pressure-releasing, comeback victory over the Suns at Metricon Stadium, but reckons the result could prove a turning point for the struggling Saints.

“It’s definitely a step in the right direction,” he said.

“The boys played incredibly well that last quarter. It shows a bit of the blueprint of the way that we want to play.

“If we can match that going into next week’s game (against Melbourne on July 1), I’m sure we’re going to be in a position to win or at least be in the game.”


Disputed what roo said rather than potted him maybe.
Tells me that Roo is indirectly saying that the coach isn't up to it. He's pussy footing around and the language coming out of pressers after each loss confirms this. The 'enormous' win on the weekend couldn't have been less impressive. No wonder the players still like him, he doesn't come down on them hard enough. I reckon a bloke who understands pushing yourself to your limit and what is required to be great would know. The article says a lot both in it's content and the response by Gilbert......


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Post: # 1737809Post chico2001 »

I was posting about the article saynta...not criticising your good self.....


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chico2001 wrote: Thu 21 Jun 2018 4:38pm I was posting about the article saynta...not criticising your good self.....
Okay mate. Some one else was though.


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chico2001 wrote: Thu 21 Jun 2018 4:38pm I was posting about the article saynta...not criticising your good self.....
Lol yes it’s always about gold old stinger..... :lol:
Irrelevant comes to mind!


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Moods wrote: Thu 21 Jun 2018 3:43pm
saynta wrote: Wed 20 Jun 2018 4:31pm https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... c7608ba1d1


"Sam Gilbert rejects Nick Riewoldt’s assessment that St Kilda players don’t receive honest feedback

The last remaining on-field link to St Kilda’s back-to-back grand final sides is shaking off former captain Nick Riewoldt’s “brutal” comments questioning the club’s playing group.

Fresh off the Saints returning to the winners’ list against Gold Coast on Saturday, veteran defender Sam Gilbert rejected his ex-skipper’s assessment that the players weren’t receiving honest feedback after their dismal 2-10 start.

“I’ve obviously played a lot of footy with ‘Roo’ and he’s an incredible leader, incredible bloke and a good friend of mine — and that’s his opinion,” Gilbert said.


“But I see internally that … we’re trying to improve and I think (coach Alan Richardson) is really pushing to improve as a team.”

Riewoldt recently revealed he was “frustrated” at a perceived lack of harsh feedback during his final years at the club in the wake of the club’s embarrassing 71-point loss to Sydney in round 12.


“Rooey’s been part of the team for a long period … (but) every week we want to improve,” Gilbert said.

“That’s been the main focus all year.”

The 31-year-old defender wasn’t part of St Kilda’s pressure-releasing, comeback victory over the Suns at Metricon Stadium, but reckons the result could prove a turning point for the struggling Saints.

“It’s definitely a step in the right direction,” he said.

“The boys played incredibly well that last quarter. It shows a bit of the blueprint of the way that we want to play.

“If we can match that going into next week’s game (against Melbourne on July 1), I’m sure we’re going to be in a position to win or at least be in the game.”


Disputed what roo said rather than potted him maybe.
Tells me that Roo is indirectly saying that the coach isn't up to it. He's pussy footing around and the language coming out of pressers after each loss confirms this. The 'enormous' win on the weekend couldn't have been less impressive. No wonder the players still like him, he doesn't come down on them hard enough. I reckon a bloke who understands pushing yourself to your limit and what is required to be great would know. The article says a lot both in it's content and the response by Gilbert......
Spot on
Riewoldt’s words are clearly damning and he does know the inner sanctum
I think Richo simply lacks the mongrel that the great coaches all at some stage posses and use when they need to
Sure players like him but it’s probably like working for that incompetent boss who lets the ship run itself.....and finish Fridays early for beer! What’s not to like?
Except the business is going down the sh!tter


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Moods wrote: Thu 21 Jun 2018 3:43pm
saynta wrote: Wed 20 Jun 2018 4:31pm https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... c7608ba1d1


"Sam Gilbert rejects Nick Riewoldt’s assessment that St Kilda players don’t receive honest feedback

The last remaining on-field link to St Kilda’s back-to-back grand final sides is shaking off former captain Nick Riewoldt’s “brutal” comments questioning the club’s playing group.

Fresh off the Saints returning to the winners’ list against Gold Coast on Saturday, veteran defender Sam Gilbert rejected his ex-skipper’s assessment that the players weren’t receiving honest feedback after their dismal 2-10 start.

“I’ve obviously played a lot of footy with ‘Roo’ and he’s an incredible leader, incredible bloke and a good friend of mine — and that’s his opinion,” Gilbert said.


“But I see internally that … we’re trying to improve and I think (coach Alan Richardson) is really pushing to improve as a team.”

Riewoldt recently revealed he was “frustrated” at a perceived lack of harsh feedback during his final years at the club in the wake of the club’s embarrassing 71-point loss to Sydney in round 12.


“Rooey’s been part of the team for a long period … (but) every week we want to improve,” Gilbert said.

“That’s been the main focus all year.”

The 31-year-old defender wasn’t part of St Kilda’s pressure-releasing, comeback victory over the Suns at Metricon Stadium, but reckons the result could prove a turning point for the struggling Saints.

“It’s definitely a step in the right direction,” he said.

“The boys played incredibly well that last quarter. It shows a bit of the blueprint of the way that we want to play.

“If we can match that going into next week’s game (against Melbourne on July 1), I’m sure we’re going to be in a position to win or at least be in the game.”


Disputed what roo said rather than potted him maybe.
Tells me that Roo is indirectly saying that the coach isn't up to it. He's pussy footing around and the language coming out of pressers after each loss confirms this. The 'enormous' win on the weekend couldn't have been less impressive. No wonder the players still like him, he doesn't come down on them hard enough. I reckon a bloke who understands pushing yourself to your limit and what is required to be great would know. The article says a lot both in it's content and the response by Gilbert......
Couldn’t agree more. Gilbert and the other softies can just p1ss off. Now. I’m sick of people feeling sorry for my team. I’d rather be hated than pitied. And preferably feared. Get a nasty edge back to us - I loved when we had Gtrain, Steve Lawrence, Heath Black, Steve Powell & Hamill. They made players walk taller and weren’t afraid to give and cop a spray when warranted.


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Post: # 1737892Post Saints43 »

Gilbert described as laconic and soft. Unbelievable.
He's got his issues as a player but I can't say I've ever seen him squib or not playing at maximum effort.
And there's only a very few I would say that about. Blokes like Blake.


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Saints43 wrote: Fri 22 Jun 2018 9:22am Gilbert described as laconic and soft. Unbelievable.
He's got his issues as a player but I can't say I've ever seen him squib or not playing at maximum effort.
And there's only a very few I would say that about. Blokes like Blake.
Disgraceful isn't it. I hesitated to put the link up in the first place and now I wish I hadn't.

I will be more selective in future.
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Post: # 1737957Post Teflon »

saynta wrote: Fri 22 Jun 2018 11:06am
Saints43 wrote: Fri 22 Jun 2018 9:22am Gilbert described as laconic and soft. Unbelievable.
He's got his issues as a player but I can't say I've ever seen him squib or not playing at maximum effort.
And there's only a very few I would say that about. Blokes like Blake.
Disgraceful isn't it. I hesitated to put the link up in the first place and no I wish I hadn't.

I will be more selective in future.

I think a little more selection in deciding when and when not to post is the order of the day! :!: :wink:


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What would Gilbert know the guy hasnt hit a target his entire career. He can run off to GCS and be the rainbow embassador for them - great stuff. If he was fit AR would play him in front of one of the kids with a much brighter future. Time to go Gilbert dont let the door hit you on the way out.


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So sad to read the derogatory comments about one of the Saints best players this century.


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saynta wrote: Sat 23 Jun 2018 6:32pm So sad to read the derogatory comments about one of the Saints best players this century.
Pretty sure the fella has played over 200 games and been on an AFL list for over 10 years. Couldn't be that bad hey? :wink:


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